I was thinking of just ordering a whole heap from healthcabin (I guess the Dekang brand) since they are located in China and I will be there for 4 weeks. Posy will be much cheaper as will the products as it will be price adjusted for the Chinese market. So that's how I'm going to find my PV/VG sweet spot and hopefully my nic level. Then no doubt once I've found those variables I will be looking into some of the yummy stuff from vendors that other members have mentioned.
Just saying hi, and looking to be pointed in the right direction!
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I was thinking of just ordering a whole heap from healthcabin (I guess the Dekang brand) since they are located in China and I will be there for 4 weeks. Posy will be much cheaper as will the products as it will be price adjusted for the Chinese market. So that's how I'm going to find my PV/VG sweet spot and hopefully my nic level. Then no doubt once I've found those variables I will be looking into some of the yummy stuff from vendors that other members have mentioned.
After some research, I see no reason not to buy e-liquid from any reputable Chinese vendor.
Interesting site on juices and their origins:
http://www.eliquid-database.com/
On nic level, I'm inclined to advise you to start at 12mg, with maybe a few bottles of 18mg just to see what it's like. With 12mg, you can vape your face off and not have to worry about getting too much of a buzz on. I'm thinking that 6mg might be where I'll end up, since my BP is a little too high for my liking when "chain vaping" 12mg. (On second thought, it's actually far too high for my liking - around 140, when I've always been more like 120 - even when smoking a PAD). I might find that 6m is still "therapeutic" enough, and might put my BP closer to 130, which I can "live" with.
For now, I'm still enjoying what I consider "bingeing" at 12mg, and am not inclined to discourage you from doing the same.
Enjoy your vaping, and your trip ..... and "may the Force be with you".
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So much yummy sounding stuff! I have quite a few I'm looking at as well LOL I find I prefer the 50/50 blend, but I think I have a slight sensativity to PG, anything higher than 50 pg and I start coughing a lot due to how tingly my throat feels. I may have to drop my tiki juice because of it.
Jixchel reminds me that I didn't weigh in on PG/VG ratio. I've always gotten 80/20 or 70/30, and IMO you can't go too far wrong there unless you're inordinately sensitive to PG (as some people are), but you might as well try to mix it up a little right from the start; maybe get a flavor or two in both 80/20 and 50/50 if you can for example. I might not know what I'm missing with higher VG content.
Bear in mind that the conventional wisdom is more throat hit with PG, more vapor with VG.
And speaking of Chinese juices, "DK TAB" ("DK" I believe means "Dekang", a very well-known - and yes, apparently very reliable - Chinese juice manufacturer - is said to be really quite something. I'd go as far as to call it a "must-try", based solely on what I've heard, and 0% from personal experience.
Cheers!
Bear in mind that the conventional wisdom is more throat hit with PG, more vapor with VG.
And speaking of Chinese juices, "DK TAB" ("DK" I believe means "Dekang", a very well-known - and yes, apparently very reliable - Chinese juice manufacturer - is said to be really quite something. I'd go as far as to call it a "must-try", based solely on what I've heard, and 0% from personal experience.
Cheers!
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Most new vapers begin with a nic level of 18 or 24 mg.
Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 10%
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 60/ 40 PG/ VG.
A very small percentage of vapers have found they are sensitive to PG. Some manage to get by with a high VG/ low PG ratio while a very few have to vape 100% VG and add either distilled water or PGA.
Seeing as you're going to be there awhile I would suggest you first purchase sample packs or small bottles because there will be juices you absolutely HATE. Most tobacco juices will need to be steeped. A quick steeping method:
Day one place bottle in hot tap water for 45 mins. Place in cupboard.
Day two a.m. open bottle and place back in cupboard.
Day three try vaping.
Also be sure you purchase an atomizer or two as you will want to test your new juices before committing a cartomizer or clearomizer to it. Much easier to clean.
Dekang juice is highly regarded in the vaping world and HealthCabin EJuice contains none of the dangerous chemicals sometimes found in EJuice.
As far as Dekang tobaccos I enjoy RY4 (HealthCabin brand), 555, Flue cured tobacco and DK-TAB and although I HATED menthol analogs I really do enjoy a touch of menthol in my tobaccos. You can buy menthol drops separately and add accordingly.
If you're having sleep related issues try vaping a lower nic content in the evening. Also be sure to drink lottsa water as vaping dehydrates and can ruin the vaping experience. The vapor comes from our bodies and not the juice. I drink 1 1/2 liters of water per day. Also in some very rare cases (myself) some are allergic to the sweetener Ethyl Maltol aka Cotton Candy. Chances of this happening are very rare though and other substitute sweeteners can be used.
Good Luck and have a great trip and please keep us updated.
Cheers.
P.S. HealthCabin has some great sales but none right now. Here's a discount code for 5% off: ECF
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There are two schools of thought...
Some think DK-TAB means Dekang Turkish American Blend
And some think it means Dark Tobacco
We may never know.
Except I'm not sure any Dekang juices need to be steeped.
They have, for the most part, probably steeped long enough by the time they get to the customer.
I could be wrong though, but I've never found a need to steep them.
Others may have had different experiences.
I haven't bought their juices for awhile cuz I DIY but I do know they changed some of their recipes. The HC RY4 is now getting better reviews than the original Dekang RY4- sad cuz that was one of their best sellers.
I've found the fresher the juice the more it needs to be steeped andf I'm sure some customers would pay extra for pre steeped juice. I guess it has to do with our impatience. Heck I'll mix some juice up way ahead of my needs and I'm just waiting impatiently to test/ sample it
Cheers and thanks for the info.
That really is good to know because I think it's true that the percentage of smokers in many Asian countries is considerably higher than in other parts of the world. If I have time, I'll get some hard numbers on it to make sure I'm not just stereotyping. Does anyone have any hard data on this?
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Holy moly!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152546/three-chinese-adults-smoke.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Three in 10 Chinese said they smoke regularly (25%) or occasionally (5%), according to Gallup surveys conducted shortly after China's ban on smoking in public places took effect last May. This translates to roughly 320 million adults -- or more than the entire population of the United States -- and underscores the potential health crisis China faces as it tries to reduce an estimated 1 million smoking-related deaths each year in its country.
Recent studies show that about 3,000 Chinese are dying each day from smoking-related diseases, and that the number could rise to 8,000 per day by 2050. Chinese men's smoking habits place their health disproportionately at risk. Gallup surveys find about 6 in 10 Chinese men say they smoke at least occasionally, while 3% of Chinese women say they do.
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First I saw the figure "30%", and I thought "hmm, a little high, but not as high as I thought". Then I look at the data for men, and the figure is 57%! And for women, only 3%! Do the makers of "Virginia Slims" know about this? That is an amazing discrepancy, and seems to say something about the state of women's rights in China.
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"Chinese men's smoking habits place their health disproportionately at risk".
Gee, ya think?
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In Pictures: The World's Heaviest-Smoking Countries - Forbes.com
and I know it's not "hard data" but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita
and I know it's not "hard data" but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita
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Insane, insane, insane. Billions and billions of dollars wasted on destroying the health of about half of the populations of those countries. About 6% of their GDP's! Fire up the B-52's and carpet-bomb them with PV's and juice. This is nuts!
Also nuts is the people I'm trying to get off of analogs who say they don't have the $100 it'll take me to set them up with two Twists, a couple of DCT tanks, ten pre-slotted cartos, a charger, a drip tip, and juice - at my cost! While they spend that much on cigarettes every 11 or 12 days! What is wrong with this picture??
(And no need to "apologize" for Wikipedia. I find it a very valuable source of generally reliable information).
I started with a kgo stater kit, and loved it with 1.7 single coil smoketechs. Then i got the smoketech tank setup, and liked it better. I then got 2 ego Twist batteries and i love them. Save a couple steps and just buy the ego-c twist, and set it up with a smoketech tank with 2.0ohm single coil tank replacements (or a different tank, with whatever you want, lol)(youtube "grimmgreen twist" to see the setup). It's really a killer setup, and i love not having to fill carto's all day and still be able to switch flavors...
Just wanted to let you guys know that my hardware turned up today!
I was like a kid in a candy store opening up my packages.
Once again thank you to all of you who offered your advice and guidance for my purchase.
I'm off now to slot some cartos and do some juice mixing so I can have my first vape!
I was like a kid in a candy store opening up my packages.
Once again thank you to all of you who offered your advice and guidance for my purchase.
I'm off now to slot some cartos and do some juice mixing so I can have my first vape!
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