You use alot of big words and fancy sentences to say the simplest things. When I first started vaping my ego twists and vision spinners had it in the package not to use it right off the charger for risk of venting. I have continued with safely letting them cool down after a charge, no matter what the battery, or charge method/amps used to charge. The purpose of my post was not citing exact facts that are based in 100% fact, and is a documented risk. But it was on lithium ion batteries I have purchased in the past. And as a rule of thumb, it cannot be bad to be more careful and take every precaution to not blow up your batteries.
Now if i was saying something like rub them on your belly before putting them in your mod, then I could understand the obvious insult when I am merely presenting a fellow vaper with precautions that i personally take. But seeing as you have also no evidence to refute my suggestion, is that not the same presumption that you made to my suggestion? Using fancy big words and sounding intelligent does not make your insult any less insulting. In fact, I would have to say more so. Maybe give this thread a read.
Battery resting? And this is just the first thing i found using a google search.
I mean sure, its extra precaution. But you like having that emergency brake in your car right? May come in handy at some point? Same theory here.
You now say this:
"as a rule of thumb, it cannot be bad to be more careful and take every precaution to not blow up your batteries."
That is best described as a "best practice". I have no issue with that. I've previously stated that no one ever vented a battery because he rested it, so it can't hurt.
What you said that precipitated my reply:
"You should never ever take batteries off the charger and use them immediately. Never ever ever. If you do you are risking venting any time you do it."
I took you to task for grossly exaggerating what Rolygate said, and that exaggeration is now repeated endlessly here, misrepresented as fact. NOT for suggesting that resting might be a good best practice. I tend to rest my own batteries but I would never tell someone never, ever to use a freshly charged battery. And I would not hesitate to use a freshly charged battery because I know there is no known engineering basis not to do so.
And by repeating this overly exaggerated idea it has the effect of preventing or inhibiting people from forming proper conclusions. A number of people tried to (intentionally or not) throw a Red Herring on this incident by insisting this was a lack of rest problem where in fact there is no possibility that resting had anything to do with this incident. This incident was surely caused by a hard short that occurred at the instant of battery insertion, and before the mod was even fired. In fact the mod didn't even have an atomizer connected so it could not possibly have been fired. But that did not stop endless speculation about resting from interfering with whatever "investigation" might come out of this thread.
If you think about the above, and consider that this would have been added to Rolygate's anecdotal evidence despite the fact that resting had nothing to do with this, you might come to understand why I object so forcefully to the continued dissemination of this very bad idea, as long as there is no known engineering basis or any clear cut evidence at all.
I stand by what I said. And you apparently agree now, but want to tap dance around it by shooting the messenger. Regarding the thread you linked to, no one in that thread provided any evidence whatsoever that failure to rest is a safety issue. No one with a claimed engineering background made any comments. They merely passed on the same disinformation everyone else has read here from members with no specific battery engineering knowledge.
A lie or falsehood or misunderstanding, repeated endlessly, does not become fact.
In fact everything everyone says here about resting goes back to the Rolygate
*suggestion* that he found an anecdotal correlation between resting and venting. And that was quoted as "evidence". However, as I have said before correlation does not equal causation. If you research battery venting you will likely find that an inordinate number of people who had a battery vent also drank coffee the same day, prior to the venting incident. Considering about 80% of the population drinks coffee. In order to get from correlation, particularly uncontrolled anecdotal correlation, to actual causation, you need two things. First you need to eliminate extraneous confounding correlations (like drinking coffee before inserting the batteries) and in this case you need some sort of engineering basis to link it. Neither of those has been forthcoming. It is just as likely that most people, at least back when Rolygate was forming his opinion, were not resting their batteries.
I am still waiting for someone to cite a link to something a battery engineer or some other very credible authority, linking lack of resting with safety issues.
ETA: what you said...
"But seeing as you have also no evidence to refute my suggestion, is that not the same presumption that you made to my suggestion? "...
When having totally lost an argument around here it is common to throw down the "I dare you to prove a negative" card. But it doesn't work with me. Don't go there or pursue this line of thinking. For your own sake.
