KangerTech SUBTANK Mini
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He did a lot of other similar narrations!
Looks like we both quit analogs the same day! I smoked slightly more than you per day though!
Congrats and vape On!
So I dropped my glass as I was drying it today on my granite counter, and it broke. I have a spare, but ordered more, however, these things are extremely fragile. I dropped it from a few INCHES and it broke, so Im curious, anyone making solid steel tanks for these bad boys yet?
I wonder how durable the Delta II is with the glass encased in stainless steel. I have seen reviews and it doesn't come apart at all.
I wonder how durable the Delta II is with the glass encased in stainless steel. I have seen reviews and it doesn't come apart at all.
I wonder how much more difficult it is to keep clean, since it cannot be disassembled like a sub tank or Atlantis. I don't think I'd get one just for that reason; there are too many other similar options, with more released every week or so recently!
I like how this coil is hitting, thanks for the pictures, with a little fiddling this one ramps up faster, better flavor, better texture, and it's keeping up at 20w with no break in.. I'm happy.
edit: and it's considerably less noisy, no popcorn
Old coil
3x 30awg twisted / 3mm id / 6 wraps @ 0.9ohm
new coil
2x 30awg parallel twisted leads / 2.5mm id / 4 wraps @ 0.7ohm
edit: and it's considerably less noisy, no popcorn
Old coil
3x 30awg twisted / 3mm id / 6 wraps @ 0.9ohm
new coil
2x 30awg parallel twisted leads / 2.5mm id / 4 wraps @ 0.7ohm
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Darryl, absolutely ! I can vape @ 20w with the Atlantis and only about 15w with the Kanger ST Mini. I even had to change to the 1.2ohm coil because the 0.5ohm was just to hot and uncomfortable for my lungs. I am still not used to the 1.2ohm. Even that is hotter than the Atlantis 0.5ohm coil.
I am just one day ahead of you quitting, but i saved more money smoking less combustibles .... The cost of cigs in Philadelphia went up $2 per pack in the last year. I picked a good time to quit.
Darryl, absolutely ! I can vape @ 20w with the Atlantis and only about 15w with the Kanger ST Mini. I even had to change to the 1.2ohm coil because the 0.5ohm was just to hot and uncomfortable for my lungs. I am still not used to the 1.2ohm. Even that is hotter than the Atlantis 0.5ohm coil.
I am just one day ahead of you quitting, but i saved more money smoking less combustibles .... The cost of cigs in Philadelphia went up $2 per pack in the last year. I picked a good time to quit.
Dammit... beer consumption, vaping, and switching tanks doesn't mix well! Just took off the Atlantis I had set at 30W and screwed the ST mini on... took a big lung hit and toasted another coil also damn near coughed up a lung! LOL! That's the 3rd time I've done that! Dohhhhhh!
I like how this coil is hitting, thanks for the pictures, with a little fiddling this one ramps up faster, better flavor, better texture, and it's keeping up at 20w with no break in.. I'm happy.
edit: and it's considerably less noisy, no popcorn
Old coil
3x 30awg twisted / 3mm id / 6 wraps @ 0.9ohm
new coil
2x 30awg parallel twisted leads / 2.5mm id / 4 wraps @ 0.7ohm
Great looking TLP G3! Not as easy to pull off as it looks. I tried a haf a dozen times but never got one to look that good. You and Mac are talented builders for sure.
Interesting your 4 wrap came out to .7ohms while Mac's 5 wrap came out to .5 with the same wire gauge and coil diameter. Someone's meter wonky?
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I could never get the rba to wick correctly. I opened up the juice channels and it wicks perfectly every time.
Dammit... beer consumption, vaping, and switching tanks doesn't mix well! Just took off the Atlantis I had set at 30W and screwed the ST mini on... took a big lung hit and toasted another coil also damn near coughed up a lung! LOL! That's the 3rd time I've done that! Dohhhhhh!
Yeah unfortunately i forgot to finish putting the top cap back on the rba
took a big ol draw and got a mouth full of juice as well as a lap full sometimes i just get overly excited lol so another lesson learned 
I like how this coil is hitting, thanks for the pictures, with a little fiddling this one ramps up faster, better flavor, better texture, and it's keeping up at 20w with no break in.. I'm happy.
edit: and it's considerably less noisy, no popcorn
Old coil
3x 30awg twisted / 3mm id / 6 wraps @ 0.9ohm
new coil
2x 30awg parallel twisted leads / 2.5mm id / 4 wraps @ 0.7ohm
Thanks for the feedback. I took a cue from Kanger upping the coil Ø to length ratio. You've taken it a step further. My initial tests were to see how the longest coil for the SubM RBA might perform. The reason I think for the difference between a conventional twisted and the parallel is you're putting in a heavier mass, lightly distributed over a broad coverage area relative to that mass. Result, fast fire, high thermal output. Tension uniformly distributes that over the greatest area of wicking. Twisted leads stabilizes it sending the power from a very broad cool pipe (leads) to a very tight symmetrically perfected surface in close contact to the wick. It's explosive. Don't get me wrong I love twisted. It does produce some deep rich vapes. This is a compromise between the very hot fast firing straight up parallel (unstable) and a totally different animal.
Wind these a consistent tension wind, a little practice and you will up the uniformity when you pulse them. Low power only required.
Glad you got it G and it would seem you found it not much more of a challenge than standard twisted pair.
I actually wind both in a similar way. With twisted I clamp the wire with some vice grips under a knee and wind downwards. I use a tabletop adjustable magnifier to assist as needed. With the parallels using a keyring on a standard screwdriver under the knee. The ring lets me balance the length of each side of the pair so that they're even in tension as I secure them in the pin vise collet. Wind away. The difference is on the one hand you've got to manually create wire or wind it on a press or drill. The parallel, just the leads. When I started doing these last Summer I thought it was just too much work. I was winding a lot of twisted wire anyway so always had some around. What made my twisteds great for me? I was getting very good at drill winding the exact same twist count. Now in context, if you're not making a lot of wire twisting two pairs of leads for a dually with a pin vise is a snap. And very exact if you need it to be. Making one of these every once in a while, it's a tossup.
Most important, pleased to see you got the performance G. Let us know how it holds up.
Good luck.
p.s. WTH are vapin', seaweed!?
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Dammit... beer consumption, vaping, and switching tanks doesn't mix well! Just took off the Atlantis I had set at 30W and screwed the ST mini on... took a big lung hit and toasted another coil also damn near coughed up a lung! LOL! That's the 3rd time I've done that! Dohhhhhh!
Darryl, you have to be more careful.. I don't drink, thankfully. I had the Kanger set to barely any opening and tested the draw without firing . I thought it was perfect for a mouth to lung draw and when i fired it; it really burned my throat. I will never mouth to lung again.... I see guys do that with subtanks and cannot firgure out how they do it. I am beginning to dislike this tank. It's too damn hot even at only 15w.
I got to day 60 with no combustibles !!
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Darryl, you have to be more careful.. I don't drink, thankfully. I had the Kanger set to barely any opening and tested the draw without firing . I thought it was perfect for a mouth to lung draw and when i fired it; it really burned my throat. I will never mouth to lung again.... I see guys do that with subtanks and cannot firgure out how they do it. I am beginning to dislike this tank. It's to damn hot even at only 15w.
I got to day 60 with no combustibles !!
Congrats J. Hang in.
It's not the tank it's the standard coil. You joined up now that we're going into hyperdrive on what the tech can do. The high output efficiency is the tank's design. The temperature we vape at is all coil config and power. The makings are there in this thing for an outstanding experience. And more user access to that than any previous tank maker has deemed fit we should have. Kudo's to Kanger.
Good luck J.
Darryl, you have to be more careful.. I don't drink, thankfully. I had the Kanger set to barely any opening and tested the draw without firing . I thought it was perfect for a mouth to lung draw and when i fired it; it really burned my throat. I will never mouth to lung again.... I see guys do that with subtanks and cannot firgure out how they do it. I am beginning to dislike this tank. It's to damn hot even at only 15w.
I got to day 60 with no combustibles !!
I abandoned the traditional, Cig-alike, Mouth to lung draw when I finally accepted that vaping was its own thing... It was tough for me to embrace Direct inhales or "Lung hits" because I associated it with Drug use. I thought people would wonder what I was vaping. Later I finally discovered that with open airflow and low nic Direct inhales are very pleasant. Seems these hotter coil tank systems were designed for it as well...
I abandoned the traditional, Cig-alike, Mouth to lung draw when I finally accepted that vaping was its own thing... It was tough for me to embrace Direct inhales or "Lung hits" because I associated it with Drug use. I thought people would wonder what I was vaping. Later I finally discovered that with open airflow and low nic Direct inhales are very pleasant. Seems these hotter coil tank systems were designed for it as well...
Hey David, I got my Atlantis and 30w iPV Mini mod on Jan 23rd and immediately got used to direct lung hits. I just sometimes have thought i could also do mouth to lung hits, but apparently that is not the case. I still find the Atlantis more open and not as hot as the Kanger ST Mini. It's just hot.
Look at the chimney openings of the two tanks.
Edit: Oops, i just realized i posted this photo already. BTW - If i had to give up one tank today, i would choose to keep the Atlantis.
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Darryl, you have to be more careful.. I don't drink, thankfully. I had the Kanger set to barely any opening and tested the draw without firing . I thought it was perfect for a mouth to lung draw and when i fired it; it really burned my throat. I will never mouth to lung again.... I see guys do that with subtanks and cannot firgure out how they do it. I am beginning to dislike this tank. It's to damn hot even at only 15w.
I got to day 60 with no combustibles !!
Joey, congrats here too on losing the stinkies. To M2L hit the STmini many are using the slotted largest afc opening and dialing it down to prefferred airflow. It does work but this device is really set up for lung hits imo. High power at that. Build the rba Joey. You'll have control over the vapor temp.
Vaping this 30ga spaced twisted, 8wrap, 6-32 screw ID, 1.4ohm tension wound coil wicked chunky with KGD cotton. Nice cool-warm vape at 30w.
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i do both mtl & direct lung, it all depends on ur setup, airflow and power.
i have 2 rba's(i have 2 stminis), one diy coil at 1.4 and the other stock coil 0.5, i do both mtl &dl on either depending on airflow, power and drag time(usually less than 3sec for me) and how hard i drag.
i dont need or want to buy anymore stock coils but its another option.
the subtank is so versatile, its why i luv it.
i have 2 rba's(i have 2 stminis), one diy coil at 1.4 and the other stock coil 0.5, i do both mtl &dl on either depending on airflow, power and drag time(usually less than 3sec for me) and how hard i drag.
i dont need or want to buy anymore stock coils but its another option.
the subtank is so versatile, its why i luv it.
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