KangerTech SUBTANK Mini

[DrewGrimey]

Yes, I believe others have posted the same problem. I don't recall if there was a solution, you might dig through this thread if you already haven't.

Yeah, the post is just too short to make a connection with the base. I just sent an email and they're sending a replacement

 

[Flapstick]

Hey MTV, thank you! I'll hold you to your promise in assisting poor little me.

As I previously asked/mentioned, I'm after builds that will deliver tighter, denser draws - mainly for mouth-to-lung.

Oh, and the Busardo guy is Phil, not Pete.

 

[thefleck]

I found the 1.2Ω to have better flavor and vapor volume on both the Sub and Mini.

Same here. I kept getting dry hits on the 0.5 ohm coil but 1.2 was great.

However, the RBA is a clear winner to me, I'm hooked. I'm sorry to hear others have had so much trouble with it. Mine is wicking and vaping like a dream. Got a 1.0 ohm with 26g on there at the moment. 28g was working great too up to 2 ohms. Definitely notice slightly improved wicking when the juice holes aren't covered, Kayfun style...with wicks it seems less is more.

Only problem I've had is unscrewing all the RBA components. The circular column piece seems to get stuck to the base on occasion and can be a real PITA to get off. Top piece too. Could use a "key" that fits into the juice holes for some leverage for unscrewing...no place for a wrench other than gripping some threads. A pair of sturdy scissors works ok with the tips in the juice holes but watch your fingers! The metal is also very thin and I almost bent it to an un-threadable oval using some pliers. Materials could be a little more solid, I can't see it taking much long term abuse. Anyway, seems to be fine now that I'm aware and real careful not to over-tighten.

 

[cigatron]

Only problem I've had is unscrewing all the RBA components. The circular column piece seems to get stuck to the base on occasion and can be a real PITA to get off. Top piece too. Could use a "key" that fits into the juice holes for some leverage for unscrewing...no place for a wrench other than gripping some threads. A pair of sturdy scissors works ok with the tips in the juice holes but watch your fingers! The metal is also very thin and I almost bent it to an un-threadable oval using some pliers. Materials could be a little more solid, I can't see it taking much long term abuse. Anyway, seems to be fine now that I'm aware and real careful not to over-tighten.

Try a lighter touch. The lower chimney section on this device is so thin that squeezing it at all will lock up the threading. I clean the juice off so I can get more rotational torque without much clamping pressure. It comes loose very easy this way no matter how tight I screwed it together. Turn it, don't squeeze it. Works every time.

 

[vjdossey]

Hi, I've had the big Subtank for 3 weeks or so, I'm still on the 1st coil. I only use it at home because its so big. I've probably gone through about 20ml or so and no problems. I got the mini last Friday and it worked great all weekend using the OCC 1.2 coils . This afternoon it tasted horrible. When I got home from work, I changed the coil and it still tastes like crap. I have primed it correctly I believe. I always put a couple drops on coil, then take a few hits with no airflow then let it sit. I am soaking the tank itself in hot water right now.. What is causing it to taste so bad? It's not a burnt taste just tastes awful. Guess I'll try the rba part. I have all the stuff, but I've never done it before...

Oooops... nevermind me, lol... i need to read all the way thru before posting

 

[MacTechVpr]

Hey MTV, thank you! I'll hold you to your promise in assisting poor little me.

As I previously asked/mentioned, I'm after builds that will deliver tighter, denser draws - mainly for mouth-to-lung.

Oh, and the Busardo guy is Phil, not Pete.

I'm awful at names. LOL Can remember being a toddler but names are a cloud. Go figure.

I know a little bit about rebuilding tho.



LMK if I can help on any question.

You take care and g'luck.

 

[olscratchy]

I am running a 1.0Ω build with 26ga wire at 2.4mm. The first time I wicked it, I did my usual bunny ear style, just trying not to over pack it by the liquid channels. It was ok....but seemed like it would start to dry up after a few pulls, and wasn't wicking quickly enough.

I pulled the wick out and put a new one in. This time, I used the same method but pushed the cotton back away from liquid channel, leaving it exposed.

This time, its been wicking well. I've settled in at 22 Watts with the middle airflow setting and I'm pretty happy with it.

any pics of your build? I'd like to see how to wick,,,,my mini should be here saturday

 

[thefleck]

Try a lighter touch. The lower chimney section on this device is so thin that squeezing it at all will lock up the threading. I clean the juice off so I can get more rotational torque without much clamping pressure. It comes loose very easy this way no matter how tight I screwed it together. Turn it, don't squeeze it. Works every time.

I think you might be right

 

[jjk1]

I got the mini today and it’s a nice tank. I’m using the 1.2ohm OCC coil – I haven’t tried the RBA or the .5ohm OCC yet. I have been using the egrip and its tiny RBA for a few weeks and wanted to try the OCC coils. I travel a lot and don’t want to deal with an RBA when I’m on the road. The flavor and vapor and almost as good as the egrip and this tank is going to work nicely on the DNA 30 – I’ll probably order the nano and a boat load of occ coils. My only issue is that I have to take a few good drags to get it rolling good. Is this normal? I’m using the largest airflow – I don’t get much vapor on the tighter settings. I’m running 1.2ohm OCC at 12 to 16 watts.
Thanks

 

[cigatron]

I got the mini today and it’s a nice tank. I’m using the 1.2ohm OCC coil – I haven’t tried the RBA or the .5ohm OCC yet. I have been using the egrip and its tiny RBA for a few weeks and wanted to try the OCC coils. I travel a lot and don’t want to deal with an RBA when I’m on the road. The flavor and vapor and almost as good as the egrip and this tank is going to work nicely on the DNA 30 – I’ll probably order the nano and a boat load of occ coils. My only issue is that I have to take a few good drags to get it rolling good. Is this normal? I’m using the largest airflow – I don’t get much vapor on the tighter settings. I’m running 1.2ohm OCC at 12 to 16 watts.
Thanks

Funny, comparing the sub occ's to the egrip rba for flavor is like comparing a vw bug to a Ferrari. Same with the sub rba. The egrip rba is a flavor monster. Maybe the size of it or the juice delivery design, don't know, but it is outstanding. I have the two sitting side by side by my ez chair and find myself constantly reaching for the egrip.

 

[jjk1]

Funny, comparing the sub occ's to the egrip rba for flavor is like comparing a vw bug to a Ferrari. Same with the sub rba. The egrip rba is a flavor monster. Maybe the size of it or the juice delivery design, don't know, but it is outstanding. I have the two sitting side by side by my ez chair and find myself constantly reaching for the egrip.

Interesting - Thanks.
I just popped in the .5ohm OCC head - it reads .7 and I can’t run it past 22 watts because it’s too hot (for me) above that. I'm getting much better air flow on the middle setting and the flavor is way better than the 1.2 - I would think the flavor would be the same (1.2 vs .5) adjusted for power but I guess not - and I can’t explain the airflow difference. This is by far the best factory coil I’ve tried. Taste like the egrip but warmer. I hope they last a few days. This could be the perfect fiddle free vape.
I’ll be stocking up on these.

 

[Katya]

Funny, comparing the sub occ's to the egrip rba for flavor is like comparing a vw bug to a Ferrari. Same with the sub rba. The egrip rba is a flavor monster. Maybe the size of it or the juice delivery design, don't know, but it is outstanding. I have the two sitting side by side by my ez chair and find myself constantly reaching for the egrip.

Taste is subjective, cig.

Have you forgotten our ......?

*runs and hides*

 

[Katya]

......? Why can't I say m-a-n-t-r-a??????

 

[cigatron]

Taste is subjective, cig.

Have you forgotten our ......?

*runs and hides*

Funny. True, true, taste is subjective from tongue to tongue. I'm using the same tongue for my comparisons.... lol

The little egrip comes closest to matching my rda for flavor using my adv juice. It does, I think, because it produces vapor density rivalling drippers. I have yet to experience that with any other tank. Most, like the sub mini, deliver a more diffused vapor production as Mac has noted. Producing dripper-like vapor density requires an uninterrupted delivery of juice to the coil and near perfect airflow through the device.....the egrip delivers both at 15.5-20w when properly wicked, even when running high vg . I shouldn't go on but the egrip is stella.

Still trying to crack the code on the mini but it seems that running 50% or higher pg is my only option to keep the coil adequately juiced at 20w especially at ambient temps under 65°f.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Funny. True, true, taste is subjective from tongue to tongue. I'm using the same tongue for my comparisons.... lol

The little egrip comes closest to matching my rda for flavor using my adv juice. It does, I think, because it produces vapor density rivalling drippers. I have yet to experience that with any other tank. Most, like the sub mini, deliver a more diffused vapor production as Mac has noted. Producing dripper-like vapor density requires an uninterrupted delivery of juice to the coil and near perfect airflow through the device.....the egrip delivers both at 15.5-20w when properly wicked, even when running high vg . I shouldn't go on but the egrip is stella.

Still trying to crack the code on the mini but it seems that running 50% or higher pg is my only option to keep the coil adequately juiced at 20w especially at ambient temps under 65°f.

I'm pleased to see Kanger introduced the idea (by example) of proper circuit symmetry. Also that using cotton makes it easier for them and us as well to duplicate the result. But the winds provided are the basis for the diffuse result. It would seem the design is optimized for it as I've explained. They must believe the bulk of the market is clamoring for a dry, cloudy vape. For most of us, I would think, favor the flavor side of production even if only slightly more than vapor output. Seems they've been hanging out in vape shops a bit too much relying on owner feedback re dripper sales instead of surveying real vapers. Unfortunately too many are not real vapers but they place the orders at the end of the day. And we all so appreciatively love shiny.

In the process of seemingly coddling to retailers they've also screwed them (brilliant) on alternative consumables sales as the design is totally counterintuitive when it comes to synthetic wicking…as yes, we won't buy our Koh Gen Do for 5$/pad at the B&M. Let's see retailers dump their Ekowool now. Still evidence clear that China fails to understand American ingenuity…by us vapers!

So sad about you folks in cold country, LOL. Get a heater.

Glad you're enjoying the vape cig. Vape on!

G'luck.

 

[Katya]

Funny. True, true, taste is subjective from tongue to tongue. I'm using the same tongue for my comparisons.... lol

The little egrip comes closest to matching my rda for flavor using my adv juice. It does, I think, because it produces vapor density rivalling drippers. I have yet to experience that with any other tank.

Oh no... Do I need to buy another battery and tank?

 

[Vapenstein]

another week has gone by and I still love the Mini
it's changed how I vape and for now I'm not too interested in using anything else

 

[MacTechVpr]

Still trying to crack the code on the mini but it seems that running 50% or higher pg is my only option to keep the coil adequately juiced at 20w especially at ambient temps under 65°f.

...So sad about you folks in cold country, LOL. Get a heater.

Glad you're enjoying the vape cig. Vape on!

Oh no... Do I need to buy another battery and tank?

I wasn't tryin' to seem cruel Katya. But givin' cig a good ribbin'.

Most of us build for the indoors, I think. And I go into shock when the temp hits 72F.

<shrug>

Good luck.

 

[Katya]

I wasn't tryin' to seem cruel Katya. But givin' cig a good ribbin'.

Most of us build for the indoors, I think. And I go into shock when the temp hits 72F.

<shrug>

Good luck.

I'm in SoCal, Mac!

I just wanted to know what it is about that new e-grip that's so appealing to many vapers. I have one in my cart but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I was just curious how it compares to a Kayfun or Lemo or Erlkonigin. I'm a lung-to mouth, low(ish) wattage person.

 

[MacTechVpr]

I'm in SoCal, Mac!

I just wanted to know what it is about that new e-grip that's so appealing to many vapers. I have one in my cart but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I was just curious how it compares to a Kayfun or Lemo or Erlkonigin. I'm a lung-to mouth, low(ish) wattage person.

I'm a techie. Been trackin' it since its release. So I can definitely relate to the apparent simplicity and elegance of it. But in this biz nothin's simple.

:wink:

Except us bein' the guinnea pigs, (quality) control group and endless deep pockets for the industry.

Can't speak to the performance as can cig and I trust his judgment. Based on what I've read and followed it seems a product not quite ready for prime time (for the average user). And I'm not too sure it will be as it will no doubt undergo some formidable revision. For moderately advanced users with a tinkering spirit, like REO's fans for example, oh joy!

My preferences are all over the board. No single device even comes close. Hate to tell ya how many I have. It seems like wretched excess but for the fact that I actually use them all. I found one authentic sitting lately. Had forgotten I had it. Said, oh yeaahhh! Sad. Don't know what too many is yet though. At times I envy Russ, the REO's folks, the Provari aficionados…who can settle on one approach. This from a lifetime Marlboro man. LOL In a way I guess, it's my kind of tinkering. Like some that need to drive every car or switch every radio station. My guy version of playin' with the remote since I don't watch TV. I'm mouth-to-lung, cool low power vapes, all the way down to .2Ω clouds or up to 2Ω+ carto's, chain like mad at high and low power. Or I'll drain a batt or two reading this forum or at a vendor demo blowing clouds. Can't predict it, don't care to. And it varies for each and every flavor and moment. I don't think they have a name for that, or an eGrip.

I guess what I'm looking for is something that universally encompasses my very real love of tobacco. I have a few devices that almost fit the bill. Now if I could just find that juice…..



I think we're all schizo katya. Don't know if we wanna leave, or wanna go. Simplify our lives, or fiddle with it. Vaping is dichotomy.

But we love it, don't we?

Take care Katya, good luck.