Kayfun LITE - Part 2

[Bronze]

I see a lot of people using battery boxes. I know the batteries control voltage and wattage. What does the option of a battery box offer me that my mechanical mod doesn't in terms of my vapor experience?

Tun, don't look at it as mechanical versus boxes. Instead, look at it as mechanical versus regulated mods. Mechanicals are simply devices that have a battery and contacts to deliver power to your atomizer. It will deliver whatever the battery has in it starting at the maximum when the battery is fully charged and fading as the battery charge depletes. Regulated mods "process" the power so you can set the power level where you like it and it will deliver the same power every time you press the fire button. there are additional features of a regulated mod but this is the condensed version. Also, both mechanical and regulated mods come in all kinds of shapes and sizes. Box mods can be either mechanical or regulated.

Does this help?

 

[Robinowitz]

I just looked at C9V and they show it listed for 62.95 euro which is $95.58 US. I would have jumped on it for $59.00 US. Sharp looking for sure.

That can be a bit confusing due to the VAT (taxes that don't apply to us in the U.S.). When you log-in to C9V, the site automatically drops the VAT. So with shipping to the US, my best figures are $72 US. Hopefully, I've figured it out correctly. Let me know if not.

That's great CRSS to hear about Intaste. I haven't done business with them ........yet......

 

[HBcorpse]

Has anyone tried the Five Pawns version of the Kayfun? The authentic made in Germany goes for about $105 shipped from the US. The site where I found it mentions a 3.5 ml capacity but I think that might be a typo - 2.5 ml is more likely. The smaller capacity somehow produces better flavor for me perhaps because of the shorter chimney.

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Technically ANYONE can use the Five Pawns version, as it is almost purely a cosmetic difference.
The way to get the same vape it produces? Get a shorter chimney and tank sections...probably one nano ring and one standard ring... {edited}

 

[Chromag9]

Those would be the all-important insulators. The rectangular one goes on the build deck under the positive block, the round one in the 510 screw hole.

Aha! I remember seeing the rectangular one on the build deck the couple times I've done a build (only had my KFL clone for a couple weeks). Had no idea what the round one was for. It came fully assembled from FT and I didn't pull the 510 pin when I soaked it so I haven't noticed the round one.

 

[tunnelno5]

How many ohms are you guys running on your Kayfun? I've been building constantly to hit the closest to 1 ohm on a mech mod with a 3.7v, but I heard that going close to 1 ohm doesn't necessarily mean better vape and cloud production. Something to do with surface area of the coil?

 

[HDMontana]

1.3 ohms with a 2.8 mm coil wrap.

HD

 

[Robinowitz]

How many ohms are you guys running on your Kayfun? I've been building constantly to hit the closest to 1 ohm on a mech mod with a 3.7v, but I heard that going close to 1 ohm doesn't necessarily mean better vape and cloud production. Something to do with surface area of the coil?

Mine generally come in around 1.5. (1,4-1.6). When I went lower towards 1.0, the flavor was muted and yucky for me. I'm all about flavor. Vapor production is less important.

 

[Exchaner]

Technically ANYONE can use the Five Pawns version, as it is almost purely a cosmetic difference.
The way to get the same vape it produces? Get a shorter chimney and tank sections...probably one nano ring and one standard ring... {edited}

I have had very little luck finding a nano kit that fits my existing Kayfun. Depending on what kit you buy, the chimney is either too short or the metal rings the wrong size. In the case of 5 Pawns, we have the additional task of trying to find a poly tank that delivers 3.5 ml. If you don't mind getting a clone Fasttech has a 2.5ml version.

 

[Robinowitz]

I have had very little luck finding a nano kit that fits my existing Kayfun. Depending on what kit you buy, the chimney is either too short or the metal rings the wrong size. In the case of 5 Pawns, we have the additional task of trying to find a poly tank that delivers 3.5 ml. If you are into clones Fasttech has a 2.5ml version.

Have you tried the K-Pico from C9V? I surely do like the little guy. Fits easily on my V2. Might be closer to 2.5 (have to find out one of these days) but you can't beat the compact size IMHO.

 

[Robinowitz]

How many ohms are you guys running on your Kayfun? I've been building constantly to hit the closest to 1 ohm on a mech mod with a 3.7v, but I heard that going close to 1 ohm doesn't necessarily mean better vape and cloud production. Something to do with surface area of the coil?

Hi! You might want to look back to pg 43 on this thread. Some good description about surface area.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png This ohms, volts, watts table might also help. Hopefully I did this right.

 

[Exchaner]

Have you tried the K-Pico from C9V? I surely do like the little guy. Fits easily on my V2. Might be closer to 2.5 (have to find out one of these days) but you can't beat the compact size IMHO.

What do you use for your clear tank, the existing one from your V2? I have a V2, and also a nano kit from fasttech, but they do not mix together.

 

[TrollDragon]

That can be a bit confusing due to the VAT (taxes that don't apply to us in the U.S.). When you log-in to C9V, the site automatically drops the VAT. So with shipping to the US, my best figures are $72 US. Hopefully, I've figured it out correctly. Let me know if not.��

That's great CRSS to hear about Intaste. I haven't done business with them ........yet......

Ordering stuff from the UK is not for me...
That Five Pawns unit would cost me $121.31 CAD landed...

 

[Bronze]

How many ohms are you guys running on your Kayfun? I've been building constantly to hit the closest to 1 ohm on a mech mod with a 3.7v, but I heard that going close to 1 ohm doesn't necessarily mean better vape and cloud production. Something to do with surface area of the coil?

1.5 ohms at 8 - 9 watts. (3.6v).

 

[Robinowitz]

What do you use for your clear tank, the existing one from your V2? I have a V2, and also a nano kit from fasttech, but they do not mix together.

Yes, I used the original glass from the V2 with my K-Pico. I had a bit of trouble screwing together the original bottom of the chimney to the Small one from Pico. (Not able to close the gap). A kind person on here suggested I turn over the long chimney and try those threads. Yep and it works flawlessly

 

[MattB101]

How many ohms are you guys running on your Kayfun? I've been building constantly to hit the closest to 1 ohm on a mech mod with a 3.7v, but I heard that going close to 1 ohm doesn't necessarily mean better vape and cloud production. Something to do with surface area of the coil?

1.4 to 1.6 ohms. 9 wraps, 28ga, kanthal on a 2.25mm core. Normally comes out to 1.5 ohms. I vape that using Rayon at around 14 watts. Love it!

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

 

[MattB101]

Hi! You might want to look back to pg 43 on this thread. Some good description about surface area.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png This ohms, volts, watts table might also help. Hopefully I did this right.

I think the table is actually hopelessly out of date these days. If I go by the table I essentially am burning my face off right now.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

 

[HBcorpse]

I have had very little luck finding a nano kit that fits my existing Kayfun. Depending on what kit you buy, the chimney is either too short or the metal rings the wrong size. In the case of 5 Pawns, we have the additional task of trying to find a poly tank that delivers 3.5 ml. If you don't mind getting a clone Fasttech has a 2.5ml version.

Well regardless of anything else, the amount of juice a tank will hold has nothing to do with the way the Kayfun performs.
Sure, the size of the tank is tied to the size of the chimney, which can affect user experience, but those factors can be offset with the coil/wick build...
So, in the end, your Kayfun can look like anything and have any juice capacity, and you can make it perform the same as the Five Pawns "version"...as long as you adjust the build to compensate for the tank/chimney size.
Any perceived difference can only be attributed to one of two things:
1. The Five Pawns "version" was built with an authentic Kayfun which can make all the difference in performance.
2. If someone feels it performs better than a similarly compensated set up, it is purely a placebo effect.

 

[HBcorpse]

I think the table is actually hopelessly out of date these days. If I go by the table I essentially am burning my face off right now.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

Yeah I seem to remember this chart being around back in the days before punched cartos with tanks...and it made loads of sense then, but now? All I can say is: "We're not in Kansas anymore."

 

[Robinowitz]

I think the table is actually hopelessly out of date these days. If I go by the table I essentially am burning my face off right now.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

So that's what I smell!. Tee hee.

Point taken. Tis outdated but not so much for my personal taste. I thought that Tunnel might like to see the correlation w ohms, watts, etc. and battery life.

Ok, back to your face burning

 

[Exchaner]

Hello everyone, I am a little confused what role the amount of air flow plays in juice consumption. I initially thought a tighter draw consumes less, but then someone said the opposite is true. Or does it matter one way or another? My juice consumption has almost doubled since I joined the kayfun club - not complaining, just explaining