Kayfun LITE - Part 2

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Two different points of view:

1. If you don't NEED the money, give it away (pay it forward) to someone who doesn't have one and can't afford one.

2. SM has already gotten their money. The "support the original designer" argument is moot. So it is now functionally worth no more than any of the decent copies of it. Under $15 shipped. It is not some kind of collector's piece.

1. I'm open to that option, sure.

2. no matter what you argue, the market is not rational; demand is partially based upon the emotion of desire. and perhaps it is not a collector's piece at this time, but in a few decades, who knows? If antique first-wave devices that eventually eradicated smoking were to be hot items at auction and SM were to become a multinational corporation larger than RJ Reynolds, I'd rather have an authentic to sell. this isnt exactly what I believe, but it is a possibility.
 

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1. I'm open to that option, sure. ...
Make Dusty verify desire and need. ;) :laugh:


2. no matter what you argue, the market is not rational; demand is partially based upon the emotion of desire. and perhaps it is not a collector's piece at this time, but in a few decades, who knows? If antique first-wave devices that eventually eradicated smoking were to be hot items at auction and SM were to become a multinational corporation larger than RJ Reynolds, I'd rather have an authentic to sell. this isnt exactly what I believe, but it is a possibility.
I'm not arguing; just suggested other options or points of view. And yeah, if ya wanna put it up in the classifieds I'll bet someone will pay $60.

You are spot on with the statement "the market is not rational; demand is partially based upon the emotion of desire". I'd contend the cost of our higher-end gear is way more than partially based on desire. Ain't marketplaces funny?

Won't that be cool when in the year 2115 our greatgrandchildren haul all of our old attys and PVs on to Antiques Roadshow and jaws drop when someone assesses our junk for small fortunes? :laugh:
 
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what would be a fair price for a used authentic kayfun lite+ v2 in excellent condition with original box and spares? I havent used mine is almost 3 months now and considering selling it off.

Even with the introduction of the K4, I'm not seeing the classies flooded with V2's. Might want to consider accepting a tad less if you do sell. I just purchased a brand new one for 44 E ($50) US (not vat as I live in US). Shipping was $12 but I put in for a few more goodies to absorb some of that.

Had a bit of BD $ that was burning a hole in my pocket (funny statement considering the topic). Picked up a low profile cap from AV (thanks UKPaul for the idea) and even splurged on the puzzle SVO drip tips. Looks like too much fun to pass up.:)
 

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Even with the introduction of the K4, I'm not seeing the classies flooded with V2's. Might want to consider accepting a tad less if you do sell. I just purchased a brand new one for 44 E ($50) US (not vat as I live in US). Shipping was $12 but I put in for a few more goodies to absorb some of that.

Had a bit of BD $ that was burning a hole in my pocket (funny statement considering the topic). Picked up a low profile cap from AV (thanks UKPaul for the idea) and even splurged on the puzzle SVO drip tips. Looks like too much fun to pass up.:)

May I ask from which vendor?
 

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May I ask from which vendor?

Sure Ping: Cloud 9 Vapor. The price quoted is in Euros and includes VAT. Once you sign-in, you can see the price (in Euros) but without VAT. Been very pleased with their shipping speed and incredible customer service.

While we are at it, I will also mention that the 3 orders I've placed with Avid Vapor have also included stealth shipping and great customer service.
 
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I thought C9 still included VAT to US destinations.

No VAT on either of the orders I've placed. Once you log-in, the VAT is subtracted. I had read here that one of our friends that lives in Canada does have to pay the VAT. Don't know if it is soley those of us who live in the US that do not pay the VAT or not.
 

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No VAT on either of the orders I've placed. Once you log-in, the VAT is subtracted. I had read here that one of our friends that lives in Canada does have to pay the VAT. Don't know if it is soley those of us who live in the US that do not pay the VAT or not.

That is a good price without the vat. I wonder if I was charged VAT when I ordered from InTaste. Even with the $12.00 shipping $62.00 is a nice price.
 

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That is a good price without the vat. I wonder if I was charged VAT when I ordered from InTaste. Even with the $12.00 shipping $62.00 is a nice price.

You should not have been charged VAT from inTaste Ping. I don't think you were. Of the big three SM vendors (inTaste, C9, and VapeRev), inTaste was always the cheapest delivered price of the three. Doesn't mean it stays that way forever but historically that had always been the case.
 

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You should not have been charged VAT from inTaste Ping. I don't think you were. Of the big three SM vendors (inTaste, C9, and VapeRev), inTaste was always the cheapest delivered price of the three. Doesn't mean it stays that way forever but historically that had always been the case.

I'm very happy with my SM. Maybe InTaste lowered their price since I bought it.

Edit: just checked InTaste $73.96 so right now C9 is less expensive.
 
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I'm very happy with my SM. Maybe InTaste lowered their price since I bought it.

It's possible. Just before releasing the K4, the big three all lowered their prices. InTaste remained the cheapest delivered. But who knows, they may all be fluctuating their prices each week. I suspect InTaste and C9 are always pretty close nowadays.
 

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CAN ANYONE TELL ME, RIGHT NOW, WHY THE KF4 CHIMNEY WON'T WORK ON THE KFL?
(Also tell me how to take my CAPS lock off! :wink: )
What I mean is, I've got mine threaded on a KFL base right now...and it fits...
So what would keep it from functioning?
It's essentially the same as the KF4, just minus the Juice Control...right?
 

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CAN ANYONE TELL ME, RIGHT NOW, WHY THE KF4 CHIMNEY WON'T WORK ON THE KFL?
(Also tell me how to take my CAPS lock off! :wink: )
What I mean is, I've got mine threaded on a KFL base right now...and it fits...
So what would keep it from functioning?
It's essentially the same as the KF4, just minus the Juice Control...right?

I dunno. Don't have a K4.
 

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One of the users on Kayfun Korner has a V4 chimney and top mounted on what looks like a KFL Gatemouth base.

V4 on KFL Base.jpg

He puts an o-ring around the KFL chimney base.
 

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One of the users on Kayfun Korner has a V4 chimney and top mounted on what looks like a KFL Gatemouth base.

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He puts an o-ring around the KFL chimney base.

Wait a second...
Before I launch into an extensive Google search...what exactly am I looking at here?
Or what do we think it is?
 

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UMMMM...
While Googling all this, and a few other KFL related things...I came across this little gem of an idea...this person was talking about threaded chimney tops, screwing into the top cap, and mentioned this crazy (but seemingly feasible) idea...
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The chimney on a KFL is/can be used as a JUICE CONTROL???
Holy SHET!!!!
 

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Pretty sure Cloud9 deals in British Pounds, not Euros...
:sarcasm: :Banana:

Big oops (big rubbing face time). Thanks HB. Yes, British Pounds (slapping forehead). So without VAT a V2 is $67 before shipping. Not sure if the $73 InTaste included shipping, but they are certainly close.

Sorry, HB, I don't have a V4 either. So no wisdom to share on my end.
 

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Big oops (big rubbing face time). Thanks HB. Yes, British Pounds (slapping forehead). So without VAT a V2 is $67 before shipping. Not sure if the $73 InTaste included shipping, but they are certainly close.

Sorry, HB, I don't have a V4 either. So no wisdom to share on my end.í.½í¸€

I was just pointing it out for humor's sake...hahaha!
I honestly wouldn't have cared if you had said Monopoly money! Bwahahaha!!!

Yeah I'm gonna do some experimenting!
 
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