KGO owner: exactly what clearomizers and attys

[jojo99]

Here's a basic/newbie question:

I have a KGO (1100mah) kit and have been using the CE4 and a couple CE4+ rebuildables which are working ok. I do like filling these type carts and going about my day. They aren't the best to many others so i read but they're ok for my usage.

I would like to get better flavor and performance though soI imagine there might be better clearomizer/like options for my KGO I might want to try, can anyone list some of the better models that will definitely fit/work with my KGO please?

I'm not a big fan of cartomizers that I can't see through to see how much liquid is left btw, but maybe I'll try one once and see the carto diff.

Also, I would like to try an atomizer and dripping soon, can anyone suggest good, affordable options there?

thanks

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I use Mini Vivi Novas BUT add extra flavor because Clearos and Vivis mute the taste somewhat. Best vape is a carto in a tank. It really also depends on whether or not you like a warm or cool vape in regards to the ohms.

 

[darkhood]

Vision VIVI NOVA 2.5ml eGo Tank - All NEW Tank System with Replaceable Atomizer Heads - Latest in eCig Innovation

Vape - SmartVapes 306 1.8ohm E cig Dripping Atomizer

 

[Baditude]

I recommend using a cartomizer in a cartotank. You can easily see the juice levels in the tank, which is a reservoir of e-liquid that continuously refills the cartomizer each time you take a vape. The cartomizers used in a cartotank needs to have holes in them in order for the juice in the tank to be able to reach the inside of the cartomizer. These "pre-punched" cartomizers are available everywhere.

I use cartotanks exclusively because in my experience they provide me with the best flavor over string-wicked clearomizers or vivi nova tanks. It makes sense that this is so. The only thing bringing the juice to the heating coil in clearomizers and vivi novas are 2-4 skinny string wicks - that's a very small surface area to wick juice.

On the other hand, the heating coil in a cartomizer is totally surrounded by the polyfill - a marked increase in surface area. More juice to the heaing coil results in more flavor. An advantage that a cartotank has over a cartomizer used solo is that it keeps the polyfill wet, so that if it is set up properly there will be no dry hits.

It takes 5 minutes to set up a cartotank, 1 minute to refill it. Depending upon the size of the tank, it can last 1-3 days of carefree vaping.

A 2ml pyrex cartotank on an eGo battery.

 

[Beccca]

I started with a kgo....love them and still use them tho I have vv. Welcome!

 

[Baums]

I recommend using a cartomizer in a cartotank. You can easily see the juice levels in the tank, which is a reservoir of e-liquid that continuously refills the cartomizer each time you take a vape. The cartomizers used in a cartotank needs to have holes in them in order for the juice in the tank to be able to reach the inside of the cartomizer. These "pre-punched" cartomizers are available everywhere.

I use cartotanks exclusively because in my experience they provide me with the best flavor over string-wicked clearomizers or vivi nova tanks. It makes sense that this is so. The only thing bringing the juice to the heating coil in clearomizers and vivi novas are 2-4 skinny string wicks - that's a very small surface area to wick juice.

On the other hand, the heating coil in a cartomizer is totally surrounded by the polyfill - a marked increase in surface area. More juice to the heaing coil results in more flavor. An advantage that a cartotank has over a cartomizer used solo is that it keeps the polyfill wet, so that if it is set up properly there will be no dry hits.

It takes 5 minutes to set up a cartotank, 1 minute to refill it. Depending upon the size of the tank, it can last 1-3 days of carefree vaping.

View attachment 180033 A 2ml pyrex cartotank on an eGo battery.

Ok now that was an awesome description. Question though. It seems to me that tanks are very. lets say, unstable. Are you really just sliding all of the pieces together? How do they not just slip out? Are they something that could not be put in a pocket? I'm intrigued, but also skeptical.

 

[Baums]

OK and this may sound stupid, but when you need to recharge your ego, how would you take a tank off to do so?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Just unscrew the carto/ tank from the battery. You can buy cartos which have a flange in the bottom and "locks" into a "groove" in the bottom of tank. Myself I always preferred non flanged cartos and tanks.

Here's a pic

View attachment 180057

OK and this may sound stupid, but when you need to recharge your ego, how would you take a tank off to do so?

 

[Baums]

The friction between the tank and carto is that strong where just twisting the tank would allow for this?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I never had a problem. With the flanged cartos I bought the flange is not perfectly round ( flat on one side and the "groove" also has a flat side) so when you turn the tank the carto also turns.

Edit: here's the pic edited with the shape of flange in right corner- note flange is not perfectly round. The slot/ groove that is on the tanks also has a "flat" side.

View attachment 180059


P.S. obviously not an artist

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Also PBusardo did some pull tests and "grip wise" the glass tanks (gripping to the carto) outperformed the plastic tanks by a wide margin.

 

[Baums]

What glass tank is worth getting into?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I'm presently using the Viv Nova but some friends bought the IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us! and are very happy- reasonable priced. Higher end are the Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks You can also check their scratch and dent Section Scratch & Dent - Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
The Best of Luck.

What glass tank is worth getting into?

 

[Baditude]

The friction between the tank and carto is that strong where just twisting the tank would allow for this?

Cartotanks use rubber gaskets called 0-rings or silicone grommets which hold the tank firmly onto the cartomizer. You can see what these look like in this demo/review of a popular tank tool by a well-known e-cig reviewer:


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What glass tank is worth getting into?

I recommend the inexpensive http://www.ibtanked.com/ pyrex cartotanks for a first cartotank. You can purchase a complete tank setup for $25.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

As Bad has pointed out in the above Vid well worth the extra $$ to buy the Slap Yo Mama Tank Tool otherwise a very good possibility the O Rings get damaged. In the early days, before tank tools, that was always the messy part of carto tanks- refilling.

 

[Baums]

The other thing I hear a lot is conflicting views on cartos vs wicked systems. This is in relation to taste. I hear some say the polyfill interferes with taste where as some say the wicking doesn't bring enough juice. Is there any true view on this, or opinion like other things?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I took a poll and 80% of converts said better taste with the carto+ tank. BUT most still use the Vivi for ease of use/ longevity. I was using cartos and still occasionally enjoy them very much but now vape unflavored juice so taste is no longer a factor for me. Unfortunately or fortunately I've used all sorts of cartos, tanks, clearos, etc and never had any wicking or leaking issues. Friends that used the larger carto tanks reported when they were about 2/3- 3/4 empty sometimes the taste would lessen. They prefer the smaller tanks.

The other thing I hear a lot is conflicting views on cartos vs wicked systems. This is in relation to taste. I hear some say the polyfill interferes with taste where as some say the wicking doesn't bring enough juice. Is there any true view on this, or opinion like other things?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Best cartos I've found for the eGo class PV are the Smok Tech 1.7 single coil aka the Resurrector. Kinda hard to explain- airy but with tons of vapor and flavor:

 

[Baums]

Can I ask why you choose flavorless? Just curious.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Sure. I'm nearing the end of my vaping "career"- started at 36 mg X 40 ml per week. Now comfortably vaping 2 mg X 15 ml per week. It was always my intention to eventually quit but there's no real hard timeline.
Also another + for carto+ tank.
My cartos in a tank would last, before tight draw started:
dark juice- 50- 60 ml
light juice- 80- 90 ml

Can I ask why you choose flavorless? Just curious.