Kick clone aka Sigelei K show and tell

[Roccov]

Got mine today from Richman for $22, shipping included. Only problem I have is that it won't fit in all my mods except for my moneypenny mod. Not my paps, roller, 69, K-100, or nemesis. From how it performed on the moneypenny, looks like it's time to get an actual Kick. That or get mods that will fit.

I received mine today also from RichManVapors.com. It showed up DOA, sent an e-mail to Rich and received an RMA within an hour. It's a new business but with that kind of attention to detail he'll be very successful. Has a great looking Telescope and RBA as well.

 

[juicefreak]

has anyone got this to work in the puresmoker legacy (thinking of buying one) or the precise P18? it looks affordable to give it a try, knowing the QC issues.

thank you!

 

[double_aa_ron]

Got mine today from Richman for $22, shipping included. Only problem I have is that it won't fit in all my mods except for my moneypenny mod. Not my paps, roller, 69, K-100, or nemesis. From how it performed on the moneypenny, looks like it's time to get an actual Kick. That or get mods that will fit.

Hmm, I doesn't work in my moneypenny. The tube is just too big. There is too much play inside the tube. I can't get a good ground. The real kick doens't work with it either.

has anyone got this to work in the puresmoker legacy (thinking of buying one) or the precise P18? it looks affordable to give it a try, knowing the QC issues.

thank you!

I don't have a legacy or precise, but take this under consideration. If the battery has a fair amount of play in the tube then the Kick clone will probably fit. It doesn't seen to fit in mods were the batteries are a tight fit. This also means that mods that are too large for the real kick seem to work fine with the clone (sigelei #8). The only mods that I have where it doesn't work are the ones with kick rings integrated into it somehow (Bombshell and the Bam). Nothing a Dremel couldn't take care of in about 10 seconds. It just need about half a millimeter taken off.

 

[juicefreak]

thank you ron. i'm also looking at the sigelei 19b in stock at a vendor, but it has a spring on the TOP cap. i ordered the stomp from richmansvapors.com today already. i'll find something to work with it.

the 19b top looks like this. wouldn't this interfere with the kick clone? Sigelei 19b head

 

[double_aa_ron]

thank you ron. i'm also looking at the sigelei 19b in stock at a vendor, but it has a spring on the TOP cap. i ordered the stomp from richmansvapors.com today already. i'll find something to work with it.

the 19b top looks like this. wouldn't this interfere with the kick clone? Sigelei 19b head

I can't say for sure if the spring will affect it or not, but I'm inclined to think it will not. I don't see what the difference would be from a spring making the positive connection or a 510 header making the connection. They both are designed to do the same thing.

 

[juicefreak]

thank you ron. does anyone have the mm specs on this for height and width? still trying to decide what mod to buy. it may very well fit in my precise, but david makes them very tight fit. i know my panasonic gcr (?) 18650's won't even fire in my precise with the length unless i add spacers, so the length should not be a problem to try it out when i get it

 

[NamVet68]

For those with problems with interior tube diameters being too large for a good fit (sloppy fit); a quick/easy/free solution is to take one of the silicon "condoms" that come with cartos or some tank tips (Vivi Novas, etc - I think everyone has a few of those laying around), cut a flat section of it & run it around the back of the Kick (the section opposite the negative pin/spring). Takes up the extra space, won't short, cushions the device, and holds the Kick/CHIck in position as well.

Just cut it longer or shorter to fit the device perfectly into the tube - I've found that about 1/4 wrap=1/2 mm, 1/2 wrap = about 1mm, etc.

Easy peasy no-cost fix.... Have fun.

 

[juicefreak]

For those with problems with interior tube diameters being too large for a good fit (sloppy fit); a quick/easy/free solution is to take one of the silicon "condoms" that come with cartos or some tank tips (Vivi Novas, etc - I think everyone has a few of those laying around), cut a flat section of it & run it around the back of the Kick (the section opposite the negative pin/spring). Takes up the extra space, won't short, cushions the device, and holds the Kick/CHIck in position as well.

Just cut it longer or shorter to fit the device perfectly into the tube - I've found that about 1/4 wrap=1/2 mm, 1/2 wrap = about 1mm, etc.

Easy peasy no-cost fix.... Have fun.

good idea namvet. i love using those carto condoms. have one on my phoenix rba clone to keep it from leaking at the bottom o-ring. works like a charm. i use my hemostats to stretch it enough to get it over the outer barrel

 

[Fullknight]

I have the Nzonic head. I took out screw and spring. Works perfect. I was afraid spring would slip and cause short on kick clone.


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[juicefreak]

I have the Nzonic head. I took out screw and spring. Works perfect. I was afraid spring would slip and cause short on kick clone.


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fullknight all i can find in stock is the 19b with the nzonic head. if i take out the spring and screw, what will make contact at the top? sorry for the dumb question. i don't have either the clone or 19b in hand

 

[crxess]

Received my 2 on Monday. Both tested great in the KTS Storm(CCTS)

Sadly Sigelei did not bother to test fit in their own Sigelei #20. To loose intermittent no fire or drops to 3.2v.
When it did fire, the #20 was AWESOME! Really starting to wonder about Sigelei in terms of smarts.

For now both will reside in the KTS. Hopefully I will get some time to make one function in the #20 in the near future.

 

[icucme2]

Mine wont fire in the #19, and with the #20 it only fires if i wiggle the tube around... Aint nobody got time for that! So im going to wait for my next mech to try again

 

[beazy]

Mine wont fire in the #19, and with the #20 it only fires if i wiggle the tube around... Aint nobody got time for that! So im going to wait for my next mech to try again

thats odd. i got the stomp and #20 mech from richman and it fits perfect, almost flush.

it does drain my batteries to 3.0 though but my batteries gain .2 while sitting idle so i dont know just how bad this is.

all my aw batteries have been od'd at one point but they always go back to 3.2 so maybe 3.0 is acceptable with this unit. imr batts are recommended after all.

 

[juicefreak]

thats odd. i got the stomp and #20 mech from richman and it fits perfect, almost flush.

it does drain my batteries to 3.0 though but my batteries gain .2 while sitting idle so i dont know just how bad this is.

all my aw batteries have been od'd at one point but they always go back to 3.2 so maybe 3.0 is acceptable with this unit. imr batts are recommended after all.

that's encouraging. i'm hoping my top spring won't interfere with it in the #19. I want to shrink wrap it somewhat to protect it. I won't know until i receive them both and the batteries. who knows, it may fit my precise too. I ordered 18490 and 18350 batteries.

All i have here are 18650's. Some of my 18650's are too long for my precise anyway. i'm used to never being able to screw down the top entirely on it, because it's a pita to take out the rubber 0-ring or add one for diff size batteries. I'm really looking forward to trying a mech telescoping one.

I've been vaping 4 yrs and haven't kept up with what's out there. Lots of cool stuff for cheap too! I bought a YJ chrome last year, but it's auto fired on me a couple x, so i'm afraid to use it. Sprayed canned air up the tube and around the switch and it seems to have fixed it, but i'm still scared to use it except occasionally. I really like mech mods, and with the sig stomp, it will give me what i want for power. Right now I'm stacking 3.2 aw's in my p18. I just don't like the life expectancy of electronics built in to ecigs, so mech's are the way to go for me. Stainless like the precise? even better. I have hand problems so i'm always dropping my ecigs.

thanks for all you advice and input guys. I'll let you know how i make out when i receive all my orders

 

[Fullknight]

fullknight all i can find in stock is the 19b with the nzonic head. if i take out the spring and screw, what will make contact at the top? sorry for the dumb question. i don't have either the clone or 19b in hand

There is a little silver screw holding the spring in place. It screws into brass. I removed the silver screw and spring, because i thought it could short on the stomp. I just left the brass and delrin only. Works great fires every time.


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[Grogfish]

On the 19 could you not just put the kick in the bottom of the mod?

 

[juicefreak]

There is a little silver screw holding the spring in place. It screws into brass. I removed the silver screw and spring, because i thought it could short on the stomp. I just left the brass and delrin only. Works great fires every time.


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thank you FK. sounds simple enough for even me lol. i will receive the #19 on tues and the kick clone on wednesday so i'll check back and let you know how it works. can't wait

 

[juicefreak]

On the 19 could you not just put the kick in the bottom of the mod?

i think some have gotten to work that way and others not. i'm going to do the button mod that alex wadpole did on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GTlWeveoOk that should set it up fine

 

[juicefreak]

got my sig kick clone today and the 19b yesterday. Works great! thank you so much fullnight for the advice to remove the top spring. I sanded the inside of the tube after it didn't work at first. slight delay on the fire button and the sig K, but the 19b has issues of it's own that i have to work out. delay is not a problem for me.

I tried it with the tube flipped on the 19b (holes on the bottom) because the threading on that end doesn't go the entire length of the tube (for easy sanding) but the K didn't drop down easily and i didn't want to force it. Normal config with light sanding works fine.

the K also fits down the barrel of my precise P18 which amazed me. I thought it would be much bigger than the evolv and not fit. I'm going to love this thing.

anyone with a 19b know if you can adjust the top cap pin to raise it up? My Phoenix RBA's are too short to make contact so i have to use a 510 -510 adapter. after taking the spring off i was disappointed to see there was no screw there to adjust.

also phillips screw drivers make a tight awkward fit to adjust the sig k. = small flat head did the trick.

I looked for some shrink tubing at lowes today and they didn't have any large enough, but this thing is seriously not that bad workmanship wise. i was expected a butchered board that needed protection with wrap and not so. good deal!

thank you guys so much for all your help

 

[juicefreak]

I take that back = it's a hair shy of fitting in my precise. the circuit board fits, but the brass knobby contact doesn't clear it. almost though!