I have some base juice, but it is 1KG. I thought initially it was 1 litre when I got it, but it states on the front 1KG. I know that water is 1litre at 1KG, but I'm sure e-liquid has a differnt viscocity/weight then water. Is there an 'offical' way to determine the volume asside from dumping it out and measuring it? Its 100mg/ml so I'd like to mess around with it as little as possible.
Kilograms vs. ML
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A Kg is 2.2 pounds! You have a 2.2 pound bottle of 100mg/ml juice? I'd just use it for DIY and extract however many ml the recipe called for and add it to the mix bottle. Is there any reason to determine the volume of the bottle? Use a syringe to measure what you take out as needed. You know the strength, so you should be able to determine how much it takes for a flavored mix.
Maybe I don't quite understand what you are asking.
You'll have to convert, but here's a start.
http://dow-answer.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7471/~/propylene-glycols---density-values
Pounds per gallon 77°F (25°C)
* Propylene Glycol 8.62
* Dipropylene Glycol 8.53
* Tripropylene Glycol 8.51
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Huh, that's odd.
I can see 2 ways to think about this.
One is that 1kg of PG is almost 1liter.
The other is 10ml of 100mg/ml nic is a gram, so you have 1k of grams of nic, or 10l.
The difference in bottle size should be the biggest clue.
Everything I've purchased has the volume and the contents listed on the label. Can't say I'd want it any other way...
I can see 2 ways to think about this.
One is that 1kg of PG is almost 1liter.
The other is 10ml of 100mg/ml nic is a gram, so you have 1k of grams of nic, or 10l.
The difference in bottle size should be the biggest clue.
Everything I've purchased has the volume and the contents listed on the label. Can't say I'd want it any other way...
Seems to me that if the nic level is 100 mg/mL, and you are clearly using it for DIY, unless you are diluting it all at once into some lower nic juice, the total volume should not matter. Its about a liter of liquid, but you will be measuring out the same amounts for DIYs as you would if the bottle was labeled 1 L. Its probably labeled in mass units for shipping purposes. If I had this bottle, I would be simply transferring the liquid to clean smaller glass bottles which I would dispense from and would be better for storage.
The density of PG is about 1.02 g/mL. The density of VG is about 1.26 g/mL. Unless it is 100% VG, the volume should be about 1 L. But again, if you are simply taking small amounts of it for DIYs, those will still be in mL, and the nic is in mg/mL, so nothing should change for the DIY preparation.
I agree with Hoosier: its odd. What was the vendor?
The density of PG is about 1.02 g/mL. The density of VG is about 1.26 g/mL. Unless it is 100% VG, the volume should be about 1 L. But again, if you are simply taking small amounts of it for DIYs, those will still be in mL, and the nic is in mg/mL, so nothing should change for the DIY preparation.
I agree with Hoosier: its odd. What was the vendor?
How much 100mg did you actually order? If you ordered 1 litre, then you have one litre, regardless of what the label states. It is indeed odd it would ship that way. So I would use the ordered data and go from there.
I have 1 KG 100mg/ml and I want to dilute everything down to 36mg/ml right away. I don't like having that strong e-liquid sitting around, so I"d rather have 3L of 36mg then 1KG/1L of 100mg/ml.
Once its cut to 36mg, I can then start doing some mixing.
Its a 3:1 PG/VG mix. I'm guessing its slightly less then 1 litre, with the numbers mentioned. Perhaps 900-950ml.
Once its cut to 36mg, I can then start doing some mixing.
Its a 3:1 PG/VG mix. I'm guessing its slightly less then 1 litre, with the numbers mentioned. Perhaps 900-950ml.
I thought it was 1 litre, but when I checked back on the site it was 1KG. I can only think they use weight to make shipping quotes easier?
The label looked normal, had everything else about it listed, but instead of ML it had KG. It looks like the standard 1litre whtie bottles, definitly not 10l
I need it precise as I'm making multiple strengths, ie 16mg & 24mg strengths. As you stated I do want to mix it all at once to 36mg, then further dilute it as I make the juice with flavours.
Due to Canadian events I'd rather not disclose vendors @ this time...
Kind of impossible to answer, since you don't state the content pg/vg/water/alcohol or whatever.
If it's PG based the kg/cu.m is 965.27 => 1 kg /0.96527 = 1.036 Liter.
If it's vg the kg/cu.m is 1259.37 => 1 kg/1.25937 = 0.794 Liter.
If it's PG based the kg/cu.m is 965.27 => 1 kg /0.96527 = 1.036 Liter.
If it's vg the kg/cu.m is 1259.37 => 1 kg/1.25937 = 0.794 Liter.
Yours and Buffalo's procedure are on the right tract, with one caveat. You are not accounting for the nicotine, which is 100ml or 10% (in a 1 litre bottle). Nicotine has an SG of 1 (the same as water). Therefore the formula should read...Its 3:1 PG/VG. So it should be
((1.036*3)+0.794+1)/5=1000ml
(3.108+1.794)/5=1000
4.902/5=0.984
0.984=1000
1000/0.984=984ml
SG of VG = 1.25937
SG of PG = 0.96527
SG of Nic = 1
I hope my calcs are on track with my rusty algebra.
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Your calculation is for 20% nicotine, 60% PG, 20% VG.
For 10% nicotine, you'd have 90%*3/4 = 67.5% PG and 90%*1/4 = 22.5% VG. Too busy to figure it out, but I'm sure you guys can. I've no idea why you need to know the exact ml quantity in advance, though. If you are going to dilute it further you will need to measure it anyway, right?
For 10% nicotine, you'd have 90%*3/4 = 67.5% PG and 90%*1/4 = 22.5% VG. Too busy to figure it out, but I'm sure you guys can. I've no idea why you need to know the exact ml quantity in advance, though. If you are going to dilute it further you will need to measure it anyway, right?
You calculation is correct. 1 KG of pure nic, 999 mg is exactly 1 lt.
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I dunno Nik ?
To me the bottle contains 3x+y+z. Whereas x=PG, y=VG and z=nic. I am not sure what happened to yesterday's response. Like I said it has been a while since I have done algebra.
By 3x + y + z you mean the mixture is 3 parts PG, 1 part VG, and 1 part nicotine? If that was the case, it would be 1/5th nicotine and the mg/ml would be ~200mg/ml. I would think the vendor takes an amount of a pre-mixture of 3/4th PG and 1/4th VG and then adds pure nicotine to it to get to 100mg/ml, which is where I came up with my %'s.
I am cool with that Nik. Personally I would just cut it to 50mg and work from there. The loss of strength would be minimal.
Can you post a link to where you got it. Are you sure the 1KG isn't the shipping weight and not the product weight?
Have you weighed the bottle? If the bottle AND the liquid weighs 1KG than it sounds like it is a shipping weight.
And BTW - Wouldn't you just messure out some amount from the bottle to do your DIY? Say 2 or 3 oz at a time? Seems like a messuring cup would work for that.
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