kinda like the thick clouds.. help needed!

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loll88

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Hey guys, well as I've said before in some other threads that I'm still new to this. The furthest I went was just some simple changing of wick kind of thing and am interested in those thick clouds. I think those people are called "cloud chases" (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, need help in knowing what kind of mods I should go for? Currently on a itazte vv v3.0 and I don't think this is strong enough!

I did some research but most results are sharing about their own builds and stuff. I wanna know for example what kind of battery would be recommended or tanks I should try? Sort of looking for recommendations. Thanks in advance guys!
 

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Well I know the basics like the difference between RBAs and RDAs as well as the existence of airflow control, getting the coils and stuff, but not sure how to rebuild them.

In order to produce large plumes of clouds, you eventually want to build your own coils so they measure below 1 ohm in resistance.

Honest question since I'm going to point you in the right direction: do you know anything about rebuildable atomizers or mechanical mods yet?
 

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To get into rebuildables and mechanical mods there is a lot of education you need to gain to do it safely. Have you read anything on battery safety, ohms law and amp limitations?

What type of tank (juice attachment) are you using on your iTaste vv v2. There may be an upgrade to what you are currently using that will give you much more vapor than you are currently getting. Also, what is the PG/VG ratio of your eliquid? Eliquid higher in VG will also give you more vapor.
 

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Well I know the basics like the difference between RBAs and RDAs as well as the existence of airflow control, getting the coils and stuff, but not sure how to rebuild them.

Okay.

Your iTaste VV isn't going to cut it, as it's more of a device made for clearos and cartos. You could use RBAs on it, but you wouldn't get a great performance, and your battery would last all of 1 or 2 hours.

Research and knowledge are extremely important if you ever plan on "chasing clouds". The reason people can blow such large clouds is because certain measures of electricity are being pushed to, and sometimes over, their safe boundaries. It is very possible to stay within these limits and still get a very large amount of vapor, so you must research, research, research to understand numerous terms with RBAs.

The actual building of the coils is the absolute most important part of this process (besides battery knowledge, which is another beast) because they determine the resistance in ohms. You might see pictures of setups and builds which all look different, but there is a ton of stuff going on that flies over your head. Wire gauge, wrap diameter, parallelity, coil spacing, wrap count, connection, etc. Your resistance is the most important variable here because it will determine how many amps your battery is drawing.

(I'll edit this post in a little, got a phone call).
 

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Hump...its not necessary to build below 1 ohm to get big clouds and it may not be the best idea steer new builders in that direction.
OP, today's market is flooded with affordable DNA style mods. A 1.5 ohm dual coil at about 25 ;watts can produce loads of vapor. Plus, you get some built in safety features. You do need an ohm meter or a multi meter first and foremost. Mechanical mods and sub ohm builds are great but they require a bit more research....batteries, amps, maintenance....there's more to it. Do some research and see what fits your needs the best, but don't get sucked into thinking you need sub ohm builds to blow clouds.
 

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I found that the kayfun lite and the R91 work excellent on my Provari..Installed a 26g coil at 1.1 ohms with organic cotton wick produces thicker vapor and more flavor for me than the PT3.. 3.8-3.9v seems to be my sweet spot..I favor the R91 over the kayfun because of the air control on it...When I feel like blowing some serious clouds I drip on a mech mod with dual coil builds around .3-.5 ohms..sometimes lower when dripping 100% Vg ..depends a lot on the type of RDA I'm using at the time...hope this helps[emoji12]

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Alright thank you all for the useful information. I've decided to go with a Hana Modz DNA 30 and a taifun gt. I guess this would be a good cloud chaser? After all it goes down to the rebuilding right? please correct me if I'm wrong. Also what is the diff between a mech mod and vv/vw mod? Is it just one being able to adjust the voltage/wattage and the other cannot? Thanks!
 

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Yes a mechanical is whatever power is left in the battery, so you must build the coil to the ohm of your liking. Eventually you replace the battery for a fresh one when the vape drops off. Regulated you can play with the voltage/wattage and use different ohm coils on different tanks and such.

You may want to grab a 50watt device and will give you a bit more room if you want to sub ohm. a dna30 does 0.5 to 3.0 ohm , but when you do the 0.5 ohm build it feels like you need more power than the mod has to really get a satisfying thick vape. I enjoy the same thing and own a dna30 cloupor device.

My sister lives in Singapore, it must be hard to be a vapor there.
 

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Yes a mechanical is whatever power is left in the battery, so you must build the coil to the ohm of your liking. Eventually you replace the battery for a fresh one when the vape drops off. Regulated you can play with the voltage/wattage and use different ohm coils on different tanks and such.

You may want to grab a 50watt device and will give you a bit more room if you want to sub ohm. a dna30 does 0.5 to 3.0 ohm , but when you do the 0.5 ohm build it feels like you need more power than the mod has to really get a satisfying thick vape. I enjoy the same thing and own a dna30 cloupor device.

My sister lives in Singapore, it must be hard to be a vapor there.

Hey thanks for helping out. First of all yes its hard to be a vapor over here with all the laws and stuff. Anyway, I was thinking of getting a dna clone first as its much cheaper and to let it act like a "starter kit". Actually I think I need some help with understanding what is sub-ohming. thanks man!
 

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Sub-ohming is just using a coil that has a resistance below 1 ohm, it is as simple as that.

You can blow decent clouds using what you have already, but you do have to build your own coils.
I used to use a Davide Glassomizer (very similar to a protank2), 2.4ohm coil built using 33AWG kanthal (10wraps not touching each other), the clouds produced were pretty decent with a long draw.

I would suggest you watch some youtube videos showing how to rebuild coils, it is really easy to get the hang of. Buy some different gauge (AWG) kanthal and an ohms tester.

And for you and nicetucu ------> Vapour (Vapor) = the cloud (ie Water Vapour)
Vaper = the person who makes the cloud (ie You)
 

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Sub-ohming is just using a coil that has a resistance below 1 ohm, it is as simple as that.

You can blow decent clouds using what you have already, but you do have to build your own coils.
I used to use a Davide Glassomizer (very similar to a protank2), 2.4ohm coil built using 33AWG kanthal (10wraps not touching each other), the clouds produced were pretty decent with a long draw.

I would suggest you watch some youtube videos showing how to rebuild coils, it is really easy to get the hang of. Buy some different gauge (AWG) kanthal and an ohms tester.

And for you and nicetucu ------> Vapour (Vapor) = the cloud (ie Water Vapour)
Vaper = the person who makes the cloud (ie You)

heyyyyyy I knew that was just testing you vapers! haha anyway thanks for the info, that kinda cleared my doubt about sub-ohming.
 

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With your hana clone, you absolutely do not need to go sub ohm and you don't need 50 or 100 watts to drive an RDA. With a 30w device, you can build a dripper at 1.5-2 ohms and run up your wattage. It will blow all the clouds you want and it'll be on the safe side. Let yourself get some experience building before you dive into sub ohms and mechanicals. These folks telling you that sub ohm builds are the only way to do it are just plain wrong. There's nothing wrong with sub ohm vaping as long as you've acquired the knowledge and experience to do it safely.
BTW, the taifun gt and a hana 30w is an excellent combo.
 

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With your hana clone, you absolutely do not need to go sub ohm and you don't need 50 or 100 watts to drive an RDA. With a 30w device, you can build a dripper at 1.5-2 ohms and run up your wattage. It will blow all the clouds you want and it'll be on the safe side. Let yourself get some experience building before you dive into sub ohms and mechanicals. These folks telling you that sub ohm builds are the only way to do it are just plain wrong. There's nothing wrong with sub ohm vaping as long as you've acquired the knowledge and experience to do it safely.
BTW, the taifun gt and a hana 30w is an excellent combo.

hey thanks man! dripper is the top of the tank where you suck on right?? That thing can be build too? wow. *guys you can obviously see that I'm a total newbie. haha
 

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Hey 88
Indeed you do sound like your a newbie! But no worries as you found a forum you can learn all about your new hobby of vaping. Quickly though the thing you suck on is called a drip tip..
You can drip through this tip or remove it to drip juice directly in your coil/wick/cotton build.. This is why its called "dripping"
RDA's are used for dripping and you must install the coils and wicks yourself preferably after you learn about Ohm's law and the safety involved with sub ohm vaping...good luck, for you obviously got a lot to learn

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