I think you may be on to something here.
I applied a long time ago and had the telephone interview and was never selected.
It did seem kinda skethcy.
Laboratory study needs experienced electronic cigarette users
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I think you may be on to something here.
I applied a long time ago and had the telephone interview and was never selected.
It did seem kinda skethcy.
Having spoken to Dr. Eissenberg, while still concerned about his attitude towards the e-cigarette, I will be participating in the study unless CASAA recommends otherwise.
I participated in Dr. Eissenberg's study on Monday morning. I made a 4.5 hour drive from New Jersey to Virginia starting around 1:30 AM, which allowed me to beat the traffic around the D.C. area. I couldn't vape for 12 hours beforehand, so the car ride wasn't as relaxing as past ones, and I had to stop drinking caffeine an hour before the study.
The study took a little under 5 hours. I was in a small room with a heart monitor and a small, painless tube in my arm, from which small amounts of blood were drawn about 16 times or so throughout the 5 hours. I was allowed to use my laptop and watch movies or do school work, but I couldn't access the Internet or use my phone, which is typical of these sorts of studies. After about an hour, I vaped 10 times every 30 seconds or so. An hour or so later, I was able to vape as I normally would, with a nurse sitting behind me tracking the number of times I took a puff. We ended up watching The Cleveland Show and part of a PBS Frontline documentary I'd downloaded about the Taliban. After that I had to wait two hours and not vape, with blood being drawn every half hour. I used that period to take a short nap that was much needed.
I was able to use my own device, a Bartleby 3.7v box mod. They ordered me some Halo Menthol cartomizers in 16 mg. I'd actually never used a cartomizer before, and kind of wished I'd gone for a 24. Regardless, I enjoyed the flavor.
I was paid my $200 in cash at the end of the day.
I spoke to Dr. Eissenberg and he has only been able to conduct 4 tests. He needs several more people before he can publish the results. I strongly encourage those in the area, or even 4.5 hours away (5.5 on the way back) like I am, to get yourself to Richmond and take part in the study.
The study took a little under 5 hours. I was in a small room with a heart monitor and a small, painless tube in my arm, from which small amounts of blood were drawn about 16 times or so throughout the 5 hours. I was allowed to use my laptop and watch movies or do school work, but I couldn't access the Internet or use my phone, which is typical of these sorts of studies. After about an hour, I vaped 10 times every 30 seconds or so. An hour or so later, I was able to vape as I normally would, with a nurse sitting behind me tracking the number of times I took a puff. We ended up watching The Cleveland Show and part of a PBS Frontline documentary I'd downloaded about the Taliban. After that I had to wait two hours and not vape, with blood being drawn every half hour. I used that period to take a short nap that was much needed.
I was able to use my own device, a Bartleby 3.7v box mod. They ordered me some Halo Menthol cartomizers in 16 mg. I'd actually never used a cartomizer before, and kind of wished I'd gone for a 24. Regardless, I enjoyed the flavor.
I was paid my $200 in cash at the end of the day.
I spoke to Dr. Eissenberg and he has only been able to conduct 4 tests. He needs several more people before he can publish the results. I strongly encourage those in the area, or even 4.5 hours away (5.5 on the way back) like I am, to get yourself to Richmond and take part in the study.
I'm in the Roanoke area and would gladly participate! Is it too late to volunteer? Should I still call the # on the linked info? thanks
Beez, I recommend you call the lab tomorrow. I don't think Dr. Eissenberg logs in here very frequently.
toriL, it's not too late to participate. Definitely call the lab. Hopefully you'll qualify.
toriL, it's not too late to participate. Definitely call the lab. Hopefully you'll qualify.
I would love to participate. Unfortunately I don't see how I could squeeze this into my 80 hour work week.
If you have actual physical stores, maybe you could make a flyer out of the original post and mention it to your regulars?
I live about one hour from Richmond. I called this morning and Andrea returned my call about 15 minutes later. She asked me a bunch of questions. In answer to one of the questions I told her that I take a prescription medication (Mirapex) everyday. She told me she had to find out if that would make a difference and would call me back. Another 15 minutes and my phone rings again. They are very efficient and good about returning calls, I can say that much.
So, I was accepted for the study and am supposed to be there next Thursday morning. Now I am debating on whether or not I should do it. I want to help with the understanding of e-cigs, and the cash will certainly help me, but I don't want to be helpful to someone who is biased against e-cigs. I am reading the huge thread about Dr Eissenberg's other study, and I googled him to find anything else he has written. He seems pretty fair, and I like that he was willing to admit the flaws in his earlier study.
There is something that concerns me. I didn't start vaping to quit smoking. I vape as an alternative to smoking. There are a lot of places where I can't smoke, but I can vape. And juice is cheaper than cigarettes. I smoke a lot less than I used to, but I do still smoke. I told Andrea that I smoke as well as vape, and she said that was OK. She did say that I cannot smoke or vape or use any other nicotine for 12 hours prior to the test. (And they will test me for nicotine when I get there to make sure.) So I will follow those instructions and not smoke or vape. What I am wondering is - will being a smoker effect the the test results in a way that will make e-cigs look bad? Should I exclude myself from the study because it might hurt our cause?
I spoke with someone here who has done the study, and he thinks doing the study would be fine. He contacted some other people and CASAA for more information for me. I'm looking for info or opinions.
Thanks,
~A
So, I was accepted for the study and am supposed to be there next Thursday morning. Now I am debating on whether or not I should do it. I want to help with the understanding of e-cigs, and the cash will certainly help me, but I don't want to be helpful to someone who is biased against e-cigs. I am reading the huge thread about Dr Eissenberg's other study, and I googled him to find anything else he has written. He seems pretty fair, and I like that he was willing to admit the flaws in his earlier study.
There is something that concerns me. I didn't start vaping to quit smoking. I vape as an alternative to smoking. There are a lot of places where I can't smoke, but I can vape. And juice is cheaper than cigarettes. I smoke a lot less than I used to, but I do still smoke. I told Andrea that I smoke as well as vape, and she said that was OK. She did say that I cannot smoke or vape or use any other nicotine for 12 hours prior to the test. (And they will test me for nicotine when I get there to make sure.) So I will follow those instructions and not smoke or vape. What I am wondering is - will being a smoker effect the the test results in a way that will make e-cigs look bad? Should I exclude myself from the study because it might hurt our cause?
I spoke with someone here who has done the study, and he thinks doing the study would be fine. He contacted some other people and CASAA for more information for me. I'm looking for info or opinions.
Thanks,
~A
I can certainly do the latter if not the former. I know a few customers who have vaped heavy for a while and could use the extra bucks.
That's too bad. I'm going Thursday. We could carpool
~A
Indeed. I am a prime candidate too. I have been vaping heavily for 2+ years now and no longer smoke.
12 hrs no vaping before test? That is impossible unless they come here and do it. A vehicle to me is where I vape the most. I will go crazy not vaping and driving. At home I can stop myself from vaping if I have enough sunflower seeds to eat.
Even if I can handle the 12 hrs, I definitely do not have free time from work to take 1 day vacation. Too many deadlines.
Even if I can handle the 12 hrs, I definitely do not have free time from work to take 1 day vacation. Too many deadlines.
To bad they can't arrange for another labor university to do the blood draws in other areas. That is such a long way from AZ.
I went to my appointment in Richmond today. I followed the instructions. I quit vaping and smoking at 9 o'clock last night. When I got there, I breathed into this breathalyzer thing to check if I had any nicotine. I tested positive! Andrea said it might not have metabolized from last night and that exercise would help. I did a few laps around the building and did some deep breathing. It was after 10am. I tested positive again!!
The nurse said this happens all the time. Knowing that I had to abstain from nicotine for so long, I probably vaped or smoked more than my usual the night before. I had my last vape, went straight to bed, and slept as late as possible to minimize my non-vaping conscious time. Nicotine doesn't metabolize well when sleeping.
She gave me a little money - enough to cover gas and lunch - and sent me home. I am supposed to go back next week. So I will be very careful about my nic intake the night before. Quit vaping earlier and exercise a bit before bed and in the morning.
~A
The nurse said this happens all the time. Knowing that I had to abstain from nicotine for so long, I probably vaped or smoked more than my usual the night before. I had my last vape, went straight to bed, and slept as late as possible to minimize my non-vaping conscious time. Nicotine doesn't metabolize well when sleeping.
She gave me a little money - enough to cover gas and lunch - and sent me home. I am supposed to go back next week. So I will be very careful about my nic intake the night before. Quit vaping earlier and exercise a bit before bed and in the morning.
~A
I am going to try to participate in this study when I move closer to the area in a couple of weeks. Looks like the drive will only be a few hours from me then.
Weird, they didn't test me for nic when I got there. They just did the initial blood draw. My appointment was at 8am, so I tapered down my PV usage starting around 6pm and set myself up with some DIY 0mg liquid in a new blank carto just to satisfy the habit.
I was really nervous about the hours between 8pm and midnight thinking I'd have issues going without the nicotine, but I really didn't and I wasn't jonesing when I got to the test. Even when I had my "free vape" portion of the test I vaped as if I normally did to the point where the nurse told me "you know, you only have about 5 min left to vape"
Even that didn't give me a feeling of urgency. It was really encouraging in fact and I think if I can ever make a 0mg liquid with the throat hit of 18mg, I'll have no problem at all giving it up. Other than the benefits that nicotine has since it does help me focus and calms me down, I could live without it.
I hope you can make it back for a second try.
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