Laryngospasm and vaping.

[Cool_Breeze]

'...learning about vaping'...hmm.

My post was about 'learning from others'...vaping was merely an 'example' of something that many have learned from others. If one thinks there could be an issue with a connection to vaping, they should be welcome to ask.

As your post quoted, the OP indicated they will be seeing a phyican. I'm not against that.

I am a bit wary of physicians when it comes to vaping. The OP might mention vaping to the physician they see.

 

[stols001]

Ooh I thought my response was too harsh but Katya has inspired me.

The OP might mention vaping to the physician they see.

THEY WOULD BE A BLITHERING IDIOT IF THEY DIDN'T. JUST BECAUSE VAPING WORKS FOR YOU IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES FOR EVERYONE.

@CagedSpam I don't see "MD" or evenj "MSW" after your name.

It is also SPECIFICALLY stated in the rules, I believe, that giving medical advice is NOT okay EVEN if you ARE a doctor even if you are 100% sure you know what the problem is. You are not one (to the best of my knowledge) and you don't know this person. For all you know, gastro issues could be incipient heart attack and/or ANYTHING else.

Will the doctor figure out the gastro issues? Breathing issues? Other issues? WITH all the information i.e person who cannot breathe please DO tell your doc you VAPE OMG it's not a SIN and can help with dx. Maybe if they are a good doc. But I guarantee YOU aren't GOING TO unless you are right now with your stethoscope and roving band of "stress management instructors traveling to this person's house. Are you?

No?

Then what business do you have saying anything BUT?

I believe you were the one who told me about functional medicine curing my bipolar. You should read the wikepedia article on it because it is a) hilarious and b) encapsulates ALL my feelings about it.

Then I asked my pdoc. After he stopped laughing, he said, "Anna are you suicidal?" very seriously and HE is an MD/PhD and is always looking into supplements and whatnot he just thinks (as do I) lithium should be the cornerstone of my treatment and not that lithium orotate stuff either.

Until you achieve your functional medicine degree just simmer down. After it, well don't speak at all as everything you say will be an expensive lie.

Also there is the drive by "Let's plop a disease in ECF and see who says what. " We had two recently today and I find that suspicious. I'm not saying this is true HERE but I am saying ,"See a doctor."

Also please refrain from telling me ALL about your psycho kid and FM. She probably had a personality disorder and benefited from all the caring placebo the FM doc was offering. Which is perfectly fine,. I too sometimes have a personality disorder, and it it INCURABLE and it's like I have slightly canine DNA sometimes.

How anyone could like STOP breathing all the time for a YEAR and like, not do something? Well maybe we need to call the group home. It's been happening for a year and IGNORED? It is safe to say some medicine (except "functional medicine") would be of use here.

You are the only weirdo who thinks things should be hidden from doctors, talked about like doctors on the internet and YOU believe in functional medicine.

Here is your functional medicine right here: Caged Spam the FM doc told me about you he believes you should become a proctologist.

Anna

Come on now.

Anna

 

[Katya]

Ooh I thought my response was too harsh but Katya has inspired me.

I don't know about other states, but "under California Penal Code 2052, it is a crime for any person to practice, attempt to practice, or advertise practicing, any treatment of the sick including diagnosis, operation, or prescription for an ailment, blemish, deformity, disease, disfigurement, disorder, injury, or any other physical or mental condition without a valid certificate or authorization for doing so."

THEY WOULD BE A BLITHERING IDIOT IF THEY DIDN'T. JUST BECAUSE VAPING WORKS FOR YOU IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES FOR EVERYONE.

Agreed. Lying to your doctor is never a good idea. Of course, doctors know that patients lie, mostly about their illegal behaviors or behaviors they are ashamed of, but it's still a very bad idea.
Up to 81% of patients lie to their doctors—and there's one big reason why.

Up to 81% of patients lie to their doctors about how often they exercise, how much they eat, and other behaviors to avoid being judged, according to a study published last month in JAMA Network Open—and those lies can negatively affect patients' health.

It is also SPECIFICALLY stated in the rules, I believe, that giving medical advice is NOT okay EVEN if you ARE a doctor even if you are 100% sure you know what the problem is.

I couldn't find a specific rule about dispensing medical advice in Forum Rules, but it's been a long-standing tradition on this forum for as long as I can remember. Posted a thousand times in similar situations by forum moderators and members alike.

I hope that our OP has seen a doctor and will come back to share his/her diagnosis with us. And then, and only then, can we resume our conversation about vaping.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

You can always tell gansters, but you can't tell them much.

 

[stols001]

You can always tell gansters, but you can't tell them much.

Please stop it. Just stop. You are totally in the wrong here and you know it. Stupid little quotes about "gansters" are just ways to divert.

Original poster PLEASE go see a legit doc, please. My guess is you might be forwarded by your PCP to a specialist or two, so please follow up there, too.

Anna

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Some people's 2 cents worth is over-valued.

 

[mike_gr]

Hello guys. Of course i will visit a doctor. I just wanted to see if somebody had a similar experience, not seek any medical advice.

I continued vaping with no incident again. When i actually go to the doctor i will update on my situation although i feel it's not of big importance. As i said originally, i had also eaten a lot that night which is probably what caused it because of stomach fluids rising and iritating the vocal chords. But then again, this is just a google search.

Thanks for your answers.

 

[Katya]

Hello guys. Of course i will visit a doctor. I just wanted to see if somebody had a similar experience, not seek any medical advice.
I continued vaping with no incident again. When i actually go to the doctor i will update on my situation although i feel it's not of big importance. As i said originally, i had also eaten a lot that night which is probably what caused it because of stomach fluids rising and iritating the vocal chords. But then again, this is just a google search.

Thanks for your answers.

Welcome back! Glad you're feeling better! Let us know what the doctor says!

Good luck!

 

[Mordacai]

@mike_gr I'm glad to see that you've returned and also hear that you're going to see the right people.

It's just us forum members are not in any position to give any more advice than to seek help from a properly trained individual that can perform various tests to identify what is actually causing your issue.

As it's not good feeling off whenever. And Google and Anxiety is never a good mix, as you can find out some horrible conditions that can make you feel even worse.

But it may well be something simple and common, but Anxiety kicks in and can skew things out of all proportion.

Here's one of my vaping issues for you, I personally have an issue with Melon flavorings. Every time I try to use a liquid with Melon flavorings I end up with throat irritation to infection, seems as though I have some sensitivity to it for some reason so I just have to avoid it.

But I can eat Melons without any issues, so I've no ideas as to what doesn't like me in the flavourings.

Anyway, back to you @mike_gr. Hope it goes well with the Doctor and it's something simple. In the meanwhile, take care.

 

[stols001]

Hopefully not vaping maybe just GERD or something.

That reminds me, I think one of the acid reducers was like, found to cause cancer or something. AFAIK it's still on the market. Maybe Zantac? Can't remember but ask your doc.

I am not saying it is GERD mind you but I hope it is and not vaping. Best of luck with the doctor.

Anna

 

[Jjbean]

Sorry, Cool_Breeze, but it's the only possible answer. If somebody comes here stating that they "woke up in the middle of the night gasping for air and my throat was making a whistling sound. I started running around the house and found that I was unable to breathe from the nose but managed to get some air in through my mouth. Seconds later the spasms stopped and I started breathing normally but was very distressed, scared, sweating and afraid to fall asleep in case it returns" and "I literally could not breathe for a short period of time," the only possible answer is to consult a physician. If you can't breathe, you need to see a doctor. Period.

You can't be seriously suggesting that we chit chat about PG/VG ratios with a person who's gasping for breath and is scared and sweating. May I remind you that practicing medicine without a licence is against the law?


It has nothing to do with being kind. We have no right and we are not qualified to try to diagnose anybody's medical condition. The only "kind" thing to do is to tell that person to seek professional help.

I think the OP is wanting to talk about a distressing experience, and it's often helpful to discuss with others that have had a similar experience. Yes, they should one hundred percent see a dr, and that should be the advice given. I have been through laryngeal spasm, triggered by vaping. It's scary, and I started searching for someone else talking about it. I have seen my dr, I have been diagnosed, I have had other things trigger it to a lesser degree, but vaping causes the worst symptoms.
To the OP: what you describe sounds like what I had, except I could breathe through my nose, but not mouth... I have recently quit smoking, vaping has been the only way that helped.
I do agree, see your dr right away to rule out other causes.
Here is how I avoid being triggered by vaping: I use nice salts, less irritating on the throat. And, because I also get triggered by nicotine sprays (to help quit smoking), I figured out that even if the tiniest dribble of liquid (from your vape spitting, leaking a tiny bit, or using a spray) enters the back of my mouth/throat, it works it's way down, and causes a spasm. So, now, if my vape spits, or I get even a hint of liquid in my mouth for whatever reason, I go rinse my mouth, and flush the liquid. This only rarely is an issue, and since I have been doing that, no vaping triggered spasms.
Definitely not medical advice which again you should if not already, have done. But, something personal that helps me avoid the trigger. And I think that is possibly why you wrote the post... Not to be diagnosed as people seem to be all over. Nothing wrong at all for talking about something bothering you. I hope others think of that. If someone was on a depression board wanting to talk about experiences, I'd certainly hope you wouldn't say "why are you posting here, you should be talking to your dr!" I hope you'd say please see your dr, but your not alone and here's my experience...