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Anyone have insomnia from vaping

Discussion in 'Health, Safety and Vaping' started by flavapor, Oct 7, 2009.

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  1. Madame Psychosis

    Madame Psychosis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2009
    East Coast Gypsy
    I have had terrible insomnia (think, 4am bedtimes) since I started vaping. And I use zero-nic after 4pm. No other changes in lifestyle etc. My major worry is that there's unlabeled nicotine content in my zero-nic.... And I wish the Sleepy Time Green Tea from Nhaler came in 0 nic!

    But, insomnia is a natural part of my life... I've tried most Rx and non-Rx drugs for sleep out there and the only thing that even mildly assists me in getting to sleep before morning every single night is melatonin. (Yes, I should just be a freelancer...) It's simply gotten harder since vaping.

    Melatonin isn't a wonder-drug -- but studies are showing how important melatonin regulation in the body is to so many functions: mood, emotion, sexuality, attention and alertness, etc. (Also, for some people it can cause a mild depression when taken in too high doses. It's best to start low -- you may not need more than 1-2mg. And its long-term effects have not been studied well in children and adolescents, so best not to feed it to your kids and mess with their natural cycles.)
    Note in using melatonin that our bodies begin to secrete it after dark -- not right before bedtime. So dividing your dose into small portions (a few manufacturers make doses smaller than 1mg) earlier in the evening can ease your transition into bed even better.
     
  2. Jeff989

    Jeff989 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 7, 2009
    Indiana
    nicotine before bed helps me sleep actually.. i go to sleep quicker and easier.. i guess it relaxes me.. im use to smoking the "before bed cigarette" so i guess it gets me away from thinking "crap what am i going to do if i cant smoke before bed?!"
     
  3. pianoguy

    pianoguy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 4, 2009
    Apple Valley, MN
    I was still have trouble getting to sleep quite often, but I have found the cure - a little glass of Drambuie an hour or so before bedtime, and I'm sleeping like a baby. Nectar of the gods ;-)
     
  4. scottjamez

    scottjamez Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2009
    One thing to keep in mind when taking Melatonin is that for many people (myself included) it tends to make you have very vivid nightmares. 8-o
     
  5. doots

    doots Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2009
    it actually makes me sleepy to vape.. lol
     
  6. dreho

    dreho Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2009
    Maine, US
    I know nicotine is actually a stimulant, but I agree. I often chain vape right before I go to bed, and I swear it knocks me out. :sleep:
     
  7. Stubby

    Stubby Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2009
    Madison, WI USA
    For those having trouble sleeping, the possible, and likely problem is the lack of MAOI's in e-liquid. The nicotine in tobacco has other alkaloids besides nicotine. Think of them as co-factors of nicotine that can change the way smoking effects some of us. Smoking tobacco is a two hit wonder. One is stimulating, that's the nicotine part, and the other is relaxing, and that would be the MAOI's. E-liquid has only the nicotine.

    On the other side one of the fist signs of to much nicotine is sleepiness. Weird ha.

    To get a better idea of what's going on you may want to read DVap's blog.
     
  8. Adam_S

    Adam_S Full Member

    Dec 18, 2009
    Westfield, MA
    Wow, great thread really glad I found it. I've had a lot more energy overall since I ditched the cancer sticks (have to say I've enjoyed it for the most part), a bit of insomnia both falling and staying asleep but nothing too bad until the last couple nights. I've been sick as hell with a cold or something and have been laying around the house and probably vaping more out of boredom. I got 3 or 4 hours last night, and have been up since 7:30 this morning (it's 2am here) and feel like I could run a marathon.

    I knew there was a reason I ordered that sleepy time sampler! Now if I can just find it among the scores of little bottles I've accumulated without waking the wifey.... Time to fire up the 510 I've been trying to avoid in case that was keeping me up.... Bring on the crazy dreams.
     
  9. timothy

    timothy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2010
    texas
    one thing to watch out is that sleepy time tea can react with meds your on if any. i know because my wife ans best friends wife had problems with the tea not vaping though
     
  10. nightowl

    nightowl Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2010
    Quincy, IL
    Be aware that some people have nightmares on melatonin if u find this happening a lot of health food stores also carry L tryptophan (not sure of spelling) one or the other of them should work.
     
  11. crashtestjeep

    crashtestjeep Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2009
    Wilmington, NC
    Wow, funny you say that, the past two weeks Ive had some scarey real, scarey vivid drea,s and I too, started vaping in June! Hmm...:confused:
     
  12. Iwannaquit4good

    Iwannaquit4good Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 5, 2010
    USA Sin City
    I had sleep issue's before I started vaping. It's hard to say as my sleep is been whacked out for years now. However I have noticed I am taking less sleepy stuff, and falling asleep naturally more often then not :) I was super amped up for a week into vaping and was bouncing off walls! Since lower my mg :) I have calmed down a lot hehe I remember when I quit smoking cigarettes in the past for like a year once, and a few months here and there. I always had burst of energy, and zest for life. Somehow I always ended up back on them, still don't get why. Maybe lower the mg and use a chill vape before bed?
     
  13. nightowl

    nightowl Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2010
    Quincy, IL
    Reducing your nicotine intake may be causing the insomnia to be worse.
     
  14. flavapor

    flavapor Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2009
    orlando fl
    so I find that vaping the zero isnt giving me the "fix" I need, so I am going back to square one with the nite vaping. What I dont get is that I vape 12-24mg during the day and have no problem taking a cat nap, yet at night when I start my zero nic after dinner I am not being satisfied?
     
  15. FrogHat

    FrogHat Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 13, 2009
    Virginia
    Rumor is I'll get enough sleep when I'm dead......I think I'll wait till then.:confused:
     
  16. Synf

    Synf Full Member

    Its a stimulant. It will most likely keep you awake. One reason people vape/smoke in the early morning.

    Vaping right before sleeping is like taking a 5 hour energy shot. Spread out your last nic vape at least an hour before you actually attempt to sleep... I put off about two hours and just vape no nic before sleeping. The first few days I had this problem, adjusted that and falling asleep faster then I did when I was on analogues.
     
  17. flavapor

    flavapor Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2009
    orlando fl
    I'll try that tonight thanks synf
     
  18. ryanSTi

    ryanSTi Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2009
    Harwinton, CT
    I used to sleep sooo good, a train could run through the house and I'd still be sleeping. Seriously though, I've had my alarm go off, and barely wake to my girlfirend shakine me like a mad woman. But the past couple months, I can lay in bed for hours awake. I get 1/2 hours of sleep and I'm back up for a half an hour, another 1/2 hours, etc. I get maybe 5 hours on a good night. And Ambien, does nothing to help either...
     
  19. IKA

    IKA Full Member

    Jan 13, 2010
    Canada
    It's not a rumor :thumb:
     
  20. martha1014

    martha1014 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2009
    Delhi, LA USA
    Before I started vaping I would take a nap every afternoon. Now I never take a nap and I sleep about 4 hours. I go to sleep good because I take Ambiem 10 mg. but after about 4 hours I'm up for the rest of the night. I never get tired and I wired the rest of the day. As long as it doen't affect me during the day I'm fine. I vape 36 all day and into the night. I just can't make myself lower my nic at night. I quess I too addicted to nicotine.
     
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