Lavatube Noob Thread - ??? about LAVATUBES and Accessories for them...Post your questions here....

[o0StatiK]

Has anyone noticed that when you press the button on the LT it takes a little long to start firing? could that be due to a dead/dying battery?

Also, how does one go about clearing a flooded carto?

 

[orachel]

o0static...Clearing a flooded carto... best way I've found is using the 'reverse taryn spin'.... THIS is the vid on how to make a spin bag and FILL a carto w (regular) taryn spin. Iincidentally, Taryn Spin is the best way to fill a carto the first time, IMO. Makes for longer life, and no scratchy vapes, and then just top off regularly with some drops of juice on filler. You'll need the 'bag' to do the reverse spin, so watch the vid and make your bag. I also wrap my bag in duct tape so they last a good 6 mos. THEN after you have your bag, follow directions except for putting the condom (longest one you have) on the TOP hole of the carto, pushed halfway down so it is secure but theres lots of room for the juice to gather, and then sticking carto in bag UPSIDE down with the 510 connection up sticking out of the bag, and the top hole with condom on it IN the bag, then spin as shown in video. By the way, I never use a gigantic lanyard like that huge rodeo maneuver. lol You can do it JUST as easily with a small loop made out of zipstrips that you twirl around your finger, and NOT risk murdering the lamp across the room. lol. So reverse spin, take out carto, dump juice in bottle, put condom back on, reverse spin... till you're getting no more juice out of it. After you have the bag made, it really does only take 2-3minutes. BUT some people swear they have decent luck just blowing out the juice (blow in top hole, so juice comes out bottom hole). I've never been lucky with it, though, and have made some truly heinous messes trying, and gotten a few 'blowing up balloon' headaches from pressure. I took a few photos of my bag which i think will help, but stupid yahoo is down. lol But I'll get em posted here as soon as I can.

And tlmoody... you got it in one... resurrector=rejuvinator=1.7ohm smokteck single coil. The XLmega at smoktek is the same as the 'regular' size at ccv. The XXL at smoktek is the same as the JUMBO at ccv. And I ADORE the Mini (exactly half the size of the boge regular, or a standard 510 cartos) because you can drip fill em, and they just seem to last much longer for me. Mini isn't carried at CCV, but its the same as the 'super shorty' at madvapes. lol I do use a rather thick 100% VG juice though. But I also love the regular/xl mega size, which is the size of a dual coil, and incidentally, those, bottom plated and punched, are what I use in my dual coil tanks. And at ccv, they have a 'junior' size, which is about a boge/510 carto size. smoktek is awesome to buy one or two to try, but they're MUCH cheaper in the 5 pack bundle at surevape (25 cartos for about $32) or the 15 carto deals at ccv (15 for $21 w free shipping)... so those are good options for buying in bulk, and each vendor offers a few different sizes in the deals. BTW, Moody, if you're just looking to try one, I'd be happy to send you one if you like, just pm me if you want to try one.

I seldom have firing issues, but I will say, it does take a VERY direct flat hard button push. If you've got any angle to your press at all, or don't depress it all the way, sometimes it misfires. I seem to remember.. you know I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that someone was having a lot of that, and as soon as they got good batteries it seemed to resolve. I don't offhand remember what you're using, but when you upgrade, perhaps it'll take care of itself. AND I do know that Apollo at least replaced a few with problematic buttons, so if you got it there, they'll take care of you if you find it becomes a royal hassle.

and thank all of you guys! I really don't mind doing it, at all, and I remember how time consuming it was in the beginning just trying to get questions answered, so that's what we're here for.

 

[carlton]

Thanks, Bmays! I'll tell you, every time I've ever had a question I flat out couldn't answer you and carlton have been there, so that's just amazing, as far as I'm concerned. And yeah, I'm stuck home with health yuck, so I just have WAY more time to dedicate to stuff like this than I would have when I was working 65 hour weeks. lol You can only do what you can do, if that makes sense, and I for one am grateful for what you techier guys do, cause otherwise I'd be flailing.

Gee, thanks for the kind words. But you're far more patient than the rest of us and always helpful.


I've been super busy and then on vacation. Could someone sum up for me what happened with the 1.5? It's prone to fire by itself?

 

[tlmoody27]

ORachel, Thank you so much for all your help!! I am so grateful for the info you and the other folks provide here and appreciate the patience with my newbie questions!

 

[orachel]

Gee, thanks for the kind words. But you're far more patient than the rest of us and always helpful.


I've been super busy and then on vacation. Could someone sum up for me what happened with the 1.5? It's prone to fire by itself?

I haven't been following this super closely, but to my knowledge, the 1.5s (ie first LTs on market advertised with a 3amp restriction) are running into an issue w some of them where they're starting to smoke by themselves in a low power state. So the fix is take out the batts when you're not right there babysitting it. There haven't been any severe failures, i don't believe, but its definitely not good... lets say that. I know ccv is offering a refund, and I believe the actual lrider v3 is due out in August with 4amp switch, ohm meter, in chrome, so that's what I'm waiting for. Now not everyone has had the issue, but clearly, smoking is much more severe than the occasional misfire, so its something to be very very careful about till you can get it switched out, or replaced. I'm not 100% certain that the units affected are lrider ones, and between that and the misstated specs on some of the new amp limits, I'm just not ever gonna buy a clone. lol As far as I'm concerned, we know lrider is a pain in the tail, but that the tubes do what they're supposed to do, for the most part, and that's worth a bit of a wait to me. I might be wrong... perhaps the 1.5s are lrider units, but anyway you cut it, that model was not a step in the right direction, unfortunately.

 

[o0StatiK]

orachel, thank you for all of your advice. I'm just a young vaper (22 years old). So I appreciate all of your help. I can fix a computer with ease, but I can't figure these out .

I think the "late firing" I'm having is due to a somewhat flooded carto. The draw feels restricted. I need to find some string so I can attempt this.

By reverse taryn spin you mean just flip the carto upside down (top down) and have my way at spinning?

 

[Errol]

orachel, thank you for all of your advice. I'm just a young vaper (22 years old). So I appreciate all of your help. I can fix a computer with ease, but I can't figure these out .

I think the "late firing" I'm having is due to a somewhat flooded carto. The draw feels restricted. I need to find some string so I can attempt this.

By reverse taryn spin you mean just flip the carto upside down (top down) and have my way at spinning?

If it's just normal flooding you're talking about just take it off the battery and blow the excess juice into a napkin.

Errol

 

[Errol]

I believe the actual lrider v3 is due out in August with 4amp switch,

Is the 4amp release date in writing somewhere Rachel, or is it just a rumor. I have a VMax but I'd sure like to get back to the convenience of the button arrangement on the Lavatube though I have become fond of the huge readout on the VMax.

Errol

 

[orachel]

Eesh, Errol! I'm so sorry! I saw that you asked me that in the other thread, then totally got distracted and spaced. rofl I feel terrible you waited this long, sorry! As to the other one, I guess its rumor at this point. I got the info from someone in the 'stop the presses' thread, and I've since asked a few vendors if they'll carry it, so apparently its something they're expecting to happen, as well. Again, dealing with Lrider here, so August may well turn into October, but its definitely on the horizon. From what I've heard, it'll be 4amp, chrome, w resistance meter. EXACTLY what I want in other words. And honestly, I'd be thrilled if it tested between 3-3.5amps, but to my knowledge, the actual lrider stuff has been a lot more comparable to given specs than some of the clone stuff you've run into. You've been a LOT more into that than I have, though, so you'd know best.

And everyone, this is Errol.... he's one of the guys I go to when I need to track down something techie for one of you. lol He's one of those vapers who spends a huge portion of his time and moola testing new stuff for us so we don't get stuck with lemons. AND he's personally saved me from 2 bad purchases, so I'm rather fond of him. rofl

Taryn Spin... and Reverse Taryn Spin Instructions
And o0static, I'd try blowing it out first, like Errol said, cause you literally might just have a few drops rattling around in your air tube. lol BUT, that reverse spin is good for a virtually non functional flood, or if you ever are vaping along, and your carto dies, and you don't want to 'waste' all that juice. Or after cleaning a carto, to get excess water out of the filler. Basically, anytime you want to get juice or liquid out of the carto for any reason. And of course the regular Taryn Spin is the best way, IMO, to fill a new 'filler' carto for the first time. People complain about a lot of scratchy dry hits, but I NEVER get that with the taryn spin method as long as I fill that way the first time, then just top off every few hours (depending on carto size and how much liquid it holds) with a few drops dripped onto top filler, so it looks like a 7-11 'Slushy'... slushy but not totally flooded. VASTLY extends the life of my cartos as well since you always have perfect saturation of the filler with this method. Regular Taryn Spin is illustrated pretty well in the video, but here's how you do the
REVERSE TARYN SPIN

EXACTLY like the regular spin (link HERE showing you how) with a few differences.
*Stick the condom over the top hole where you put the juice in.
*Push it down far enough that its secure, but loose enough to have lots of room for juice to collect.
*Put carto into spinbag or onto lanyard TOP SIDE down... so carto on top hole is in the bottom of the bag, and 510 connection is sticking out of the top.
*Spin for a few minutes, gently pull out carto, holding onto condom so it doesn't spill. Dump collected juice back into bottle.
*Repeat, carto back on top hole, carto in bag upside down, spin... until no more juice is coming out.

I find that clears a lot of blockages and funky performance issues, especially if I've been using the carto a good few weeks. Then you can use the regular 'taryn spin' to refill it once more, and just continue to top it off with a few drops on filler after that as long as you don't vape it too dry. That centrifugal force drives the juice into the carto, filling it from the bottom, up. Gets rid of all air bubbles, and totally saturates the carto. AND spin method is the only way I've found to be able to fill up a carto and start vaping right away, and not have to let it soak for 15-30mins to get full saturation. BTW, here's those photos of my bag.
I make em just like in the video HERE, with the small ziplock (or you can use a large one, cut down, and tape up the sides) and the two paralled rows of vertical staples to hold the carto upright in the bag. Then I cover the whole bag with duct tape (not essential, but if you don't, eventually when you're pushing the carto into the bag, it'll push thru the back plastic, or the 'holes' will tear thru... this way bag lasts a good 6 mos of constant use). So, you've got bag with 2 lines of staples (shown in video) covered with ducttape, then make two small notches just below the 'ziplock' line on one side of the bag. Two zip ties (or anything else 'rigid but bendable you have... wire, etc) can be linked together, and fed thru the two holes on one side of your bag. Then close the other end. I tape my 'tails' of the zipties down so they don't throw off the ergonomics while spinning. And then you can just spin that thing around your finger, hula hoop style, and not worry about long lanyard beaning someone in the head. lol Its just a more 'controlled' spin. And then you don't need to worry about feeding the 'hanger' thru the holes every time... loop just stays connected to the bag. Here's photos.

 

[Troy1troy]

I have a L-rider question!! How can you tell if you have the newer version? I received mine just the other day but maybe it was shelved for however long?

 

[Bmays]

I myself don't do the "spins" lol. BUT.... I have used this method before when getting the juice out of a new carto that was a dud, went south WAY to fast, or just changing flavors (which I never did). Okay, I admit, I'm WAY too tight with my juice. What I did was this.

I took an old worn out eGo battery and removed the top 510 connector portion. These should pop out fairly easily, Some way too easy actually. Anyway, Remove all the guts from the connector, I.e. the center pin, the rubber grommet etc. I took a small rope, cord, whatever (that wont break all that easy) and tied a knot into one end, fed it through the hole in the connector leaving the knot in the bottom of the 510 connector.

You could put a tiny washer in there to prevent the rope from popping out during the spin. Put a carto condom part way onto the end and it will fill that bugger right back up with your precious juice.

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[orachel]

Troy1Troy... New ones, and the clones, usually have a resistance meter... so if there's a function to tell you the ohms of whatever hardware is on it, its one of the newer ones. However, most of the newer ones (IF not all) aren't LRIDER... they're clones. So if you've got an lrider tube, chances are good its either the regular original powdercoated one in black, silver or red, or the new chrome (avail lots of places) or lim edition stainless (only at apollo). Hope that helps. If you shoot me a link of what you bought I can figure it out for ya.

And seriously, bmays... what a cool retooling of a dead batt! lol Love the dead ego batt as a 'spin lanyard' thingie.

 

[orachel]

Ok, I think one of you was looking for a KICK device, to make the fixed 18650 mod (ie something like a bolt) into a variable wattage device w use of an 18500 battery. I just got notice that KICK is BACK IN STOCK at Altsmoke! These things are NEVER in stock, so if you want one, grab it!

 

[Bmays]

Yeah, It only works to remove juice but it does work good. Its funny, I'm finding myself after all this time looking for the "all day vape" again waiting on my rebuildable attys to arrive. I for some reason decided I wanted a carto, clearo, whatever-o that was better than what I was using.

Needless to say....I'm still looking. Think I'm gonna go back to my Boge 2.0's, I feel kinda bad for cheatin on them anyway.

 

[orachel]

I just got my Cisco 306 atty deal from Avid Vaper... OMG... best atty ever! I'm SO not an atty person normally, but I got some killer advice to try the 306 (exposed bridge atty for 510 connection) by Cisco, and they had a great '2 atty and 306 driptip' deal for $20.... Omg... I did demesh the bridge, but left the bridge and wicking intact... just peeled off the mesh with tweezers... and the thing is KICKING out the vapor and literally best flavor I've ever had. LOVE these. I was interested in the cisco 357, but they're more like $22 each, and second, they really do require short hard pulls, which isn't my vape style, so that's why I went with 306. But yeah, till I can buy a really expensive rebuildable (soo not a priority for me, but they look incredible) I'll be VERY happy with these little guys. And seriously? For like $8 a pop with the deal and the drip tip... can't go wrong. You pay that for most crummy 510 attys. DEFINITE recommend. Here's the deals, and you just want one of the 306 deals in your choice of ohms...
Atomizers - Atomizer Specials - Avid Vaper

bmays... which rebuildable did you order? LOVING the looks of some of those.

And my Apollo tank came in, from Vapers Choice (only $7, and looks VERY cool, and star trekkie)...I'll let ya'll know how that is soon. That's a clearo tank, but has 'replaceable' guts, so you just buy one tank, and a few 'guts' and you can easily switch flavors that way.

 

[queerchameleon]

Has anyone had any luck tightening up the draw on the chrome/SS version other then just using a 3.5ml Tank Cone ? I was thinking either cutting a EGO full size cone down an drilling small vent holes in it or filing down the 3.5ml Tank Cone so the vent holes are much smaller. Anyone tried either of those or have any other ideas that worked for them ? FYI I always vape with carto in a tank.

 

[Bmays]

bmays... which rebuildable did you order? LOVING the looks of some of those.

I'm on this co-op for the tank; Had an Orion and loved it. So I think the rebuildables are for me.

 

[orachel]

queerchameleon... Thinking its' gonna depend on the cartos you use, but I know for a fact if you use the tank cone, plus a 510 to 510 shorty (which would work for any kind of a 510 carto setup) then you'll have a MUCH tighter draw. Might wanna get an unsealed 510 shorty, so its not TOO tight. But that definitely works.

 

[Troy1troy]

Hey Orachel, Give me some good news? Here's the link. Thanks a bunch for the information.
L_Rider Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette - Full Size

 

[orachel]

Okie doke... Good news is your is definitely an Lrider... which means you won't have to worry that you bought something sold to vendors with flat out wrong specs, or that you'll be affected with the v 1.5 smoking issues. You've got the standard v1 lrider tube, with a 2.5amp switch... that's what the VAST majority of us have here. Mine has v1 internals, but is the stainless steel one from apollo, but they all 'work' the same way. 2 questions... first, how long ago did you buy it? And second... did you get a warranty? Only reason I ask is because I believe apollo's price is about the same, and comes with a year warranty, so just wanted to make you aware of that on the offchance that you didn't get a warranty, and ARE within the return period.
Apollo is doing a 30% off thing right now on its KIT, (COUPON CODE: vtube30) so you could get a KIT of a powdercoated one in Red, black or silver for $52.47, OR if you want a really durable one, add $10 for the Chrome model, which just looks sharp (and I can attest to the sturdiness of the all metal bodies... my poor beast has been dropped a good 10x onto a hard slate tile floor, and keeps a tickin). And then of course you do get the charger and batt (not the best batt or charger, of course) and a black zipper case, stainless driptip, and a 510 atty... and of course the year warranty. I almost didn't even say anything because sounds like you already bought it, but have felt terrible if there was a return period and you didn't get a warranty and something went awry. Either way, chances are good you'll have a fantastic unit that will be a fabulous vv device, but a few of those options are a nice value, so just wanted to put it out there for ya. (now ducking and running away, in case you throw a shoe at me! rofl)

http://www.apolloecigs.com/VTube-kit-p/atube.htm

btw, the main photo is of the chrome unit, which is $10 more.. but if you do have the choice, I'll tell you the extra 'heft' and durability make the chrome a nice choice. Stainless is nice too, and limited edition, but that's a $30 upcharge (of course that is discounted 30% as well right now). But again.. powdercoated ones are nice too, and there are a few colors to choose from. They're all great in person, but I think the silver is my fave in powdercoat, but of course i prefer the bodies in metal (chrome casts a nice blueish hue, whereas the stainless like mine casts a sorta yellowy one... both great, though). AND worse case scenario, if you don't have a 'return' option, or decide its too much hassle... again, we're expecting some NICE lrider future version with a much higher amp in chrome with ohm meter in just a few mos, so if that extra 'oomph' matters to you, you could always upgrade then and have this one as a backup, or sell this one in classies and get yourself a new one then. BUT to my knowledge, the only ones being advertised with 3 and 4 amp switch now are either a) having weird low power smoking issue... NOT desirable, or b) clones that were flat out misrepresented by the manufacturer to vendor... so some that say they have a 4 amp switch are really somewhere in the high 2s... So to my mind you'd be better off getting a v1 tube now, and then you can always revisit it when the reliable lrider ones come out. Yell out if you have any questions, and SO sorry if I bummed you out or confused you. I just wracked my brain, and figured that every pv I've ever bought has at least a 2 week return period, so figured I'd better give you the option since that kit is such a ridonkulous good deal, especially with the chrome/stainless tube. AND i just double checked that coupon code works on all... does work on powdercoated kit ($52 after price adjustment) and stainless kit ($73 after price adjustment) BUT alas... out of the chrome. A chrome kit at that price would have been ludicrous, so can't say as Im surprised, but the 30% make either the stainless or the powdercoated ones in kit a killer deal, esp with year warranty.

Oh, and either way... I wouldn't suggest buying extra 18650s with either vendor, since the orbtronic 18650 Panny hybrid in 2200mah is such a killer deal, and a much much better batt. That is here...$7.99 each and free shipping.
http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-...0a-18650-rechargeable-battery-cell-high-drain