I have a DC tank that I cannot get to fire on my LT... I have a V1 LT..
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Looks like I need to sell them before I even have them lol Thanks for letting me know.
I don't know. My LT kit came with DCT-V1 tanks but I requested 2.5ohm carto's. My problem is they are Smoktech which I feel gave my favorite juice a muted flavor. Plus, being they are DC I know I am not getting the full volts (6) because I clipped the top wire to make it a 5ohm single coil and it about blew my head off at 6 volts as opposed to a lackluster performance when both coils were active. Everyone steers me in the direction of 3ohm single coil Boges only. I like to vape at high voltages mainly. I haven't tried them yet cause I want to use up my DC's. My only problem is I hate that the Boges are not pre-punched or plated. Not to mention I would like to find ONE vendor that sells both 510 XL Boges and 808 Boges for my slims. But cannot seem to find that vendor! Plus, I am tempted to just switch to a clearo or something as well because my tanks are polyprolene and I love to vape Mt. Dew and Cinnamon. Argggg! What to do?
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Townee, that is so odd... what voltage are you vaping them at? That's literally the only carto i've used on my lt until just a few days ago. Works great at about 4.3ish... fabulous vape. Can't imagine why you'd have firing issues anyway... usually the lt just restricts voltage, but doesn't not fire like the provari v2 when it doesn't like the carto. Odd odd, very odd. lol Does your LT behave badly in any other ways? I'm thinking its gotta be a problem with the 1.7s or the pv, because that is not normal behavior. BTW, LOVE your avvie. Very eerie.
And yeah, Cowboy, you're gonna get crummy performance out of smoktech dcs if you're trying to get them to high voltages. I'm assuming you're on the v1 internals lavatube? If so, its just not ideal unless you really like a very low voltage vape with them. Even the 2.5ohm ones won't get you all the way to 6v. I forget exactly where it chops voltage at 2.5ohms, but you can watch PBusardos lavatube review to see the charts, if you like. It'll be between 5 and 5.5, I'm guessing off top of my head. Boge 3's are definitely the way to go for high voltages. I just had a winfall of Boge, so if you'd like, I'd be happy to send you one if you pm me your addy. And that goes for any of you that need to try one. I've got about 5 I can give away, for those who've never tried em and want to give em a whirl... so first 5 who pm me, you guys will get em.
And I might be wrong, but to my knowledge the clearos are made of pretty much the same thing as the poly tanks, aren't they? I'm not 100% sure, but I was under the impression you couldn't vape cinnamon and such in clearos, either. I've heard a bunch of stories about deterioration of clearos with certain juices, and I assumed that was a similar phenomenon as the tanks. I might be wrong.. hoping one of these other guys can answer that better than I. But I was pretty dang confident of that. Clearos do come with issues of their own, though. They tend to be much more 'troubleshooting intensive' overall than the filler cartos, and I hate to tell ya, if you think flavor is muted on the smok dual coils, it'll be WAAAY worse on 99.99% of clearos. They're notorious flavor smooshers. They seem to be popular in spite of it, though, but that's always been my main objection to them, and I've randomly tried one from time to time, so I've tried most of the varieties. Only clearos (in my experience) that don't smoosh flavor are those actual clearomizer dual coils i keep mentioning, at vaping zone, for 3.99 a pop... but then I just got one of those that has a persistent burnt taste, so apparently not all of them work as flawlessly as the first few I tried. If you do decide to try a clearo, my personal suggestion would be to try those I just mentioned, or the 'long haired' extra long wick variety of ego ce4 (aka stardusts) that are exclusive to discount vapers. I wouldn't suggest the short wick ones that everyone else carries, though. BIG hassle on those trying to keep the wicks wet, cause they're just tiny stubbs at the top. Total design lunacy. lol But the longer wick dv version are getting some rave reviews. But I thought if you wanted to vape those kind of juices in anything other than a carto, you had to go to pyrex tank. BTW, there are some AWESOME pyrex tanks available. They're not cheap, but they're gorgeous and super durable, and will stand up to any juice you wanna stick in em because they're made of unbreakable undeteriorate-able pyrex glass. I love the phiniac tanks, and there's a brand new one I just saw an invape article about (love that blog... great one to subscribe to) that sorta looks like a lavatank, but with phiniac glass. Ubercool. Lemme find a link for that article, and the link to tank is in it.
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So either of those is a great option if you've got a few bucks to spend. Actually, now that phiniac makes them in all different sizes, and the simple sandblasted and textured ones, if you wait till a sale, or visit the 'scratch and dent' section, you can get a great pyrex tank around $35. AWESOME designs, too. I'm particularly fond of the zodiacs in the sandblasted. And the tribal ones are gorgeous for guys. As for the one vendor to hit all of your needs, yeah, not much help there. I assume you've checked the gigantic places like litecigusa and healthcabin.net (though that's china shipping, so youve gotta consider that in the price, and be prepared to wait 10 days to a month at the very outside). If you're not finding them both there, your only chance is to stumble on a tiny vendor who happens to have both, and honestly, they tend to be pricier. The good news is that Crystalclearvaping at least has free shipping, always, so at least you don't get whacked with shipping charges, twice.
Anyway, lemme know if you want to try a boge in the 3. They're shorties, not the xl size, but they perform identically. And anyone else who wants to try a boge 3, I can help out the first 5 of ya. I don't suggest those for anything under 5 volt vaping, and really, over 5.5 for best performance. But they are FABULOUS up there. And you do get a ton of the nuances in juices (assuming you're not vaping organics... those fizzle at high voltages flavorwise) that you're missing in the smok dual coils, so thinking you'll love those as an option. I'm gonna get a little 'shorty' tank from kalamazoo vapors, they're the new 3.5ml tanks that are the same width as the lavatubes, but short, like a boge. I don't always want 6 ml of juice staring at me, and they're a smaller size, so good for on the go. But of course, that's a smok tank, so it's poly as well. Cheaper than the pyrex, though. lol Personally, I'd suggest just doing your odd tank killer flavor vaping in a BIG honkin smoktech single coil carto.... they have ones at smoktek (the vape shop, not the brand) and I believe they have them in a variety of ohms. I'd get one in the 2.8-3ohm range, and use them for your high voltage when you're determined to have 2.5ml of juice handy. The boge 3s XL will work if you don't need quite that much. And then of course you'll be set when you can get a pyrex tank. Whew... that was a book. lol Good luck!
Ok, I lied. Just checked smoktek vape shop, and they have the 2.5ohm xxl stainless cartos, that hold like 2.5ml, but they're only available in the dual coil. However, any of you looking for the stainless 1.7ohm single coils in the XXL (aka Resurrector JUMBO), they're having a special on them now, for next 6 hours, for $1.69 a piece. Right now CCV only has the jumbos in the black color, not the silver. Just remember, you need a special xxl drip dip for em, but they sell those at the same site. I believe 808 drip tips fit as well, and of course it comes with a soft rubber tip. My guess is these would retain flavor better than the low ohm ones you're vaping now, just because you'll be over 5v, but that is just a guess. Personally, dual coils of any variety, other than those clearomizer ones, are not my fave. I'd much rather have a boge 3 for high voltages, or a smok 1.7 single coil or a boge 2 for the mid-ranges.
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And yeah, Cowboy, you're gonna get crummy performance out of smoktech dcs if you're trying to get them to high voltages. I'm assuming you're on the v1 internals lavatube? If so, its just not ideal unless you really like a very low voltage vape with them. Even the 2.5ohm ones won't get you all the way to 6v. I forget exactly where it chops voltage at 2.5ohms, but you can watch PBusardos lavatube review to see the charts, if you like. It'll be between 5 and 5.5, I'm guessing off top of my head. Boge 3's are definitely the way to go for high voltages. I just had a winfall of Boge, so if you'd like, I'd be happy to send you one if you pm me your addy. And that goes for any of you that need to try one. I've got about 5 I can give away, for those who've never tried em and want to give em a whirl... so first 5 who pm me, you guys will get em.
And I might be wrong, but to my knowledge the clearos are made of pretty much the same thing as the poly tanks, aren't they? I'm not 100% sure, but I was under the impression you couldn't vape cinnamon and such in clearos, either. I've heard a bunch of stories about deterioration of clearos with certain juices, and I assumed that was a similar phenomenon as the tanks. I might be wrong.. hoping one of these other guys can answer that better than I. But I was pretty dang confident of that. Clearos do come with issues of their own, though. They tend to be much more 'troubleshooting intensive' overall than the filler cartos, and I hate to tell ya, if you think flavor is muted on the smok dual coils, it'll be WAAAY worse on 99.99% of clearos. They're notorious flavor smooshers. They seem to be popular in spite of it, though, but that's always been my main objection to them, and I've randomly tried one from time to time, so I've tried most of the varieties. Only clearos (in my experience) that don't smoosh flavor are those actual clearomizer dual coils i keep mentioning, at vaping zone, for 3.99 a pop... but then I just got one of those that has a persistent burnt taste, so apparently not all of them work as flawlessly as the first few I tried. If you do decide to try a clearo, my personal suggestion would be to try those I just mentioned, or the 'long haired' extra long wick variety of ego ce4 (aka stardusts) that are exclusive to discount vapers. I wouldn't suggest the short wick ones that everyone else carries, though. BIG hassle on those trying to keep the wicks wet, cause they're just tiny stubbs at the top. Total design lunacy. lol But the longer wick dv version are getting some rave reviews. But I thought if you wanted to vape those kind of juices in anything other than a carto, you had to go to pyrex tank. BTW, there are some AWESOME pyrex tanks available. They're not cheap, but they're gorgeous and super durable, and will stand up to any juice you wanna stick in em because they're made of unbreakable undeteriorate-able pyrex glass. I love the phiniac tanks, and there's a brand new one I just saw an invape article about (love that blog... great one to subscribe to) that sorta looks like a lavatank, but with phiniac glass. Ubercool. Lemme find a link for that article, and the link to tank is in it.
Avid Vaper Releases Clean Tanks | InVape
So either of those is a great option if you've got a few bucks to spend. Actually, now that phiniac makes them in all different sizes, and the simple sandblasted and textured ones, if you wait till a sale, or visit the 'scratch and dent' section, you can get a great pyrex tank around $35. AWESOME designs, too. I'm particularly fond of the zodiacs in the sandblasted. And the tribal ones are gorgeous for guys. As for the one vendor to hit all of your needs, yeah, not much help there. I assume you've checked the gigantic places like litecigusa and healthcabin.net (though that's china shipping, so youve gotta consider that in the price, and be prepared to wait 10 days to a month at the very outside). If you're not finding them both there, your only chance is to stumble on a tiny vendor who happens to have both, and honestly, they tend to be pricier. The good news is that Crystalclearvaping at least has free shipping, always, so at least you don't get whacked with shipping charges, twice.
Anyway, lemme know if you want to try a boge in the 3. They're shorties, not the xl size, but they perform identically. And anyone else who wants to try a boge 3, I can help out the first 5 of ya.
I don't suggest those for anything under 5 volt vaping, and really, over 5.5 for best performance. But they are FABULOUS up there. And you do get a ton of the nuances in juices (assuming you're not vaping organics... those fizzle at high voltages flavorwise) that you're missing in the smok dual coils, so thinking you'll love those as an option. I'm gonna get a little 'shorty' tank from kalamazoo vapors, they're the new 3.5ml tanks that are the same width as the lavatubes, but short, like a boge. I don't always want 6 ml of juice staring at me, and they're a smaller size, so good for on the go. But of course, that's a smok tank, so it's poly as well. Cheaper than the pyrex, though. lol Personally, I'd suggest just doing your odd tank killer flavor vaping in a BIG honkin smoktech single coil carto.... they have ones at smoktek (the vape shop, not the brand) and I believe they have them in a variety of ohms. I'd get one in the 2.8-3ohm range, and use them for your high voltage when you're determined to have 2.5ml of juice handy. The boge 3s XL will work if you don't need quite that much. And then of course you'll be set when you can get a pyrex tank. Whew... that was a book. lol Good luck!Ok, I lied. Just checked smoktek vape shop, and they have the 2.5ohm xxl stainless cartos, that hold like 2.5ml, but they're only available in the dual coil. However, any of you looking for the stainless 1.7ohm single coils in the XXL (aka Resurrector JUMBO), they're having a special on them now, for next 6 hours, for $1.69 a piece. Right now CCV only has the jumbos in the black color, not the silver. Just remember, you need a special xxl drip dip for em, but they sell those at the same site. I believe 808 drip tips fit as well, and of course it comes with a soft rubber tip. My guess is these would retain flavor better than the low ohm ones you're vaping now, just because you'll be over 5v, but that is just a guess. Personally, dual coils of any variety, other than those clearomizer ones, are not my fave. I'd much rather have a boge 3 for high voltages, or a smok 1.7 single coil or a boge 2 for the mid-ranges.
Dual Coil Cartomizer - 2.5 ohm, 2.5ml, Mega XXL - Stainless w/tip (best @ 5v)
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XXL ReJuvenator 1.7 ohm low resistance single coil cartomizer
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Ok, all you guys having issues with getting the DCTS you already own to fire on a v1 LT, I'm 99.9% sure all you need to resolve the issue is a tiny $2 510 to 510 adapter, and then you can reuse it again and again with all your tanks that won't fire by themselves. I posted a link to a great one at vapingzone, but there's also a good one at discountvapers.com, and gotvapes. It'll be called something like a 510 to 510 shorty adapter. I do know there have been MANY threads about using adapters to fire some dcts on lavatubes, so that's something you can find lots of info on. But honestly, a 510 to 510 adapter is handy for a lot of things. For instance, my friend just got some vivi novas that have odd threading. His came from altsmoke, apparently the GV ones don't have that issue. But rather than risking screwing up the threads on his pricey main pv, he just bought a 510 to 510 adapter. Easy peasy. So you've got nothing to lose by grabbing one the next time you're buying vapegoods, and trying it out. I believe the issue is with the way the top of the original LT is shaped, so the adapter (ideally a short one, 5mm to 6.5mm in height) resolves that entirely.
edit.. and many of the DCTs do work just fine on the original LTs... just a few varieties had issues, I believe. So that explains the discrepancy in what you've heard works in the past. Lots of them work just fine. If there's any question about yours, or if you've got one on order, just pop out $2 to get an adapter, and you'll be cool.
edit.. and many of the DCTs do work just fine on the original LTs... just a few varieties had issues, I believe. So that explains the discrepancy in what you've heard works in the past. Lots of them work just fine. If there's any question about yours, or if you've got one on order, just pop out $2 to get an adapter, and you'll be cool.
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Morning All! And thanks for all the responses! 'kay, the carto and tank come ready to use -- all I hafta do is slide the carto inside the tank and screw it on, then it top fills straight from the bottle. (Tank slides up so you can squirt the juice in beside the carto so as not to overfill the carto.) I use 50/50 juice almost exclusively, tho I might have used a 100% pv one time, and I vape at 4.2 which is what V9 recommends for this tank/carto. I've tried somewhat higher and lower, but still the same thing. Any ideas? This is not a panic deal, tho I'm reeeeeeally frustrated! I'll connect with the V9 guys sooner or later -- it's just that patience is not among my virtues! 
I'll connect with the V9 guys sooner or later -- it's just that patience is not among my virtues! Hey, Thanks Orachel for the info and links! I think I have for sure made up my mind to do the Boge 3.0. And just not worry about the plate and make my own hole. If I won't have the advantage of using all my juices in a clearo then I have no use for them. A Pyrex tank is on the list now! Thanks again!
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funnyfarm, give me a minute to read back in the thread and familiarize myself with your issue, and I'll be back in a sec with some ideas.
And Cowboy Cru... hoping the boge 3.0 works well for you! I'll get that sample one out to you as soon as possible, and everyone else.. I still have 4 Boge 3.0 cartos (original short size, but they vape the same as the XLs) up for grabs for any of you that want to try one on high voltage vaping. Just pm me where you want it sent. A friend of mine switched to a 302 penstyle (blasphemy! lol) so she sent me her old gear which included some boge.
And Cowboy Cru... hoping the boge 3.0 works well for you! I'll get that sample one out to you as soon as possible, and everyone else.. I still have 4 Boge 3.0 cartos (original short size, but they vape the same as the XLs) up for grabs for any of you that want to try one on high voltage vaping. Just pm me where you want it sent. A friend of mine switched to a 302 penstyle (blasphemy! lol) so she sent me her old gear which included some boge.
Ok, funnyfarm... you've only tried just the one carto (I'm assuming its a smoktech dual coil at 1.5ohms, since that's usually what comes in those tanks) on it, right? Did we ever establish how many holes were close to the base of your carto inside the tank?
If its more than 1... that's your problem, right there. The cartos that have more than 1 hole prepunched tend to be best for thicker juices, like an 100% VG, thicker blends.
If its only one... the only thing I can tell you is that occasionally those 'prepunched' cartos have the same issue as the ones you punch yourself using a carto punch or a saddle valve. I'm not sure what the issue is, but I suspect that occasionally the hole breaks through into the center tube of the carto, or else is just way too big, so you get a ton of juice with your vapor. Another option, and this was the case with my friend... he actually disassembled his carto (after our troubleshooting established that the carto was funky) and found that he'd managed to MELT the inner plastic tube that keeps the juice away from the vapor hole. That was why he kept getting tons of juice in his vape. We suspect this is cause it was a dual coil, and the plastic down by the coils just melted. Another reason I like single coils in tanks. lol But for your situation, first thing I'll tell you is stop vaping with that thing! Nic levels in eliquid are safe, assuming you're getting them from a reputable vape shop, but you're not supposed to drink the juice! lol If you get any in your mouth, spit it out immediately and flush your mouth with water. I'm not expecting you to have any serious adverse reactions, cause you'd have to drink quite a bit of juice to run into nicotine poisoning issues, but nicotine is a stimulant and can cause your heart to race, and also virulent hiccoughs (hiccups) that last for hours... trust me, I've been there. But the bad news is that if the one carto that came with your tank setup isn't working properly, there's not much you can do to fix it. I'm not 100% certain its a bad punch, but that's what I suspect. If you're willing, we can do a little bit of troubleshooting to find out once and for all if the carto is bad, or if you just did a bad fill. This will take a little time and effort, though. Lucky for you, this just happened to a friend of mine so I had to figure out how to start fresh with a new fill to see if the carto was the issue, or a bad fill. This is what I worked out for him.
1) suck up all the juice you can get out of your tank with a syringe, and put it back in the juice bottle for now.
2)next step is to get the juice out of the carto. The quick way is to try to suck as much juice out as you possibly can with the syringe (I should have mentioned, you need the carto out of the tank for this part... which is why you took out the juice), simply by sticking the syringe all around the filler and sucking out as much as you can. This is less effective than using the 'reverse taryn spin' method to get the juice out. You can see a video on how to make a 'taryn spin bag' and do the basic taryn spin method here. This method is the best way (in my opinion) to fill filler cartos that you use outside of tanks for the first time, to get the longest life and best vape out of them, so its useful for other things, after this trouble shooting session. After you fill a carto with this method on the first fill, all you have to do from here on out is just drop 4-5 drops of liquid on the filler every few hours, and it will continue to vape great for weeks and weeks. And making the bag is a little hassle, but you only need to make one every 6 mos or so, and reuse it again and again. Instead of the long lanyard, i use two zip ties connected end to end to make a small loop, sliding it thru the 'holes' on the baggie before you connect the last two end together to finish your loop. That way you can just do a tiny spin around your finger, rather than the whole lanyard loop, but that way works just fine, as well. You can also use a $1.50 velveteen pouch w drawstrings to hold an ecig for this part, you can get those from many vape places and use those instead of the homemade bags for spinning.
How To Fill A 510 Cartomizer (Electronic Cigarette) - YouTube
Ok, so after you watch this video, make your Taryn spin bag. THEN, Instead of doing the taryn spin to fill your carto, you want to do the 'reverse taryn spin' to get the liquid OUT of your carto. So you put the condom from the end of your carto (you might have to steal this from another cartomizer, since the ones that come in tanks don't come with those clear plastic condoms over the ends.) on the TOP hole of the carto, pushed about halfway down. You push only halfway down so that its secure on the top end of your carto, yet there is still room in the condom for the juice to collect. Put your carto UPSIDE DOWN in the spin bag, so that the top part of the carto, with the condom on it, is down in the baggie, and the 510 connection .... of the carto is up at the top. Boy, this is hard to explain in writing. Hope this make sense! lol Then you just want to spin your bag like crazy, until the condom is filled with juice. Pull carto w condom on it carefully out of the bag, dump whats in the condom back into juice bottle. Then repeat, putting empty condom back on the top of your carto, put upside down in bag, spin like mad, empty... until you've gotten all the juice out of your carto. Might take 3 or 4 repetitions to get all the juice out. And of course, since there IS a hole on your carto, because it was designed for a tank, you might get a little juice out of that hole as you're spinning. But don't worry... that's what the bag is for... to contain any mess. Just rinse your bag out and set it aside so its ready the next time you want to do the taryn spin to fill carto.
Ok, so now you've got a relatively empty newish carto, and hopefully a relatively empty tank. You're ready to try one last time to see if this will work. And it sounded like you have the general concept of filling the tank down, but here's how I do it. One thing you mentioned might be problematic, so try it this way.
1)So, put the carto back into tank, pushing it only halfway home, so that there's still room for you to get a syringe in between the top of the tank, and the outer wall of the carto, for filling.
2)Start filling with a syringe, right up until you get the tank about halfway full. You're not filling it all the way because we're not sure this will work. lol You might end up having to take the juice out again, if it turns out your carto is the problem.
3)Ok, now push the carto up into place, until the bottom plate fits flush against the bottom of the tank. Now here's where you might have gone wrong..its hard to tell from the way you described it.
4)Ok, what you want to do is fill up the carto by using a syringe straight into the filler material at the bottom, so the bottom of the carto gets filled up first. Then gradually work your way with the syringe up into the higher filler material, until you start to see the filler at top getting saturated. You can top off with a few drops on top of the filler if it looks like you need it. BUT at no point are you 'flooding' the top of the filler, hole included, with juice. That part is important.
5)Now you may want to set it aside for 10 mins, so the hole can fill rest of carto filler with juice and it can soak in. Now you can start vaping again.
Here's the bummer part... if you're STILL getting loads of juice in your mouth, than that carto is toast. Something went wrong with the hole punching part, and there's nothing you can do to fix that. You just need to either contact your seller, and tell him you followed troubleshooting directions at ecf exactly,and the carto is flooding center hole with juice... if you're lucky, he'll send you a new one, but that's not super likely. Many cartos have no guarantee unless they're Dead On Arrival, which yours is not.
Either way, you want to buy some new cartos for your tank, and were I you, I'd get a pack for use outside of your tank, just to be safe. Depending on the voltage you like to vape at, I like Boge 2.0ohm and Resurrector 1.7ohm single coil smoktechs for mid voltage vaping (resurrectors are also available bottom plated w 1 hole punched in em from Crystal Clear Vaping. I've used MANY of his plated and punched 1.7ohm cartos, and never had one yet that was unusable out of the box, like yours) or the Boge 3s for high voltage. That would be an excellent thing to try if you're not into punching holes into your own cartos. I find punching my own a bit problematic. I certainly do it, but relatively often the hole will be too big, so I'll end up with the juice in mouth situation, which is what you're trying to avoid. BUT if you're comfortable punching your own, either Boge 2.0s or Resurrector single coils smoktech 1.7ohms for mid voltages or boge 3.0s at high voltages, BOTH IN THE XL SIZE, are excellent cartos to punch for use in tanks.
Ok, so not sure what you're gonna end up with after all that... let us know what happens! But unfortunately, some cartos with holes are funny right out of the box, so that whole troubleshooting brouhaha is designed to find out if yours is bad, or if you just flooded with filling. If you're not in the mood to mess with all that... if I had to guess, I'd say the carto is bad, unfortunately. Were I you, I'd buy a few of the 'punched and plated' 1.7ohm resurrector cartos in singles to try out in the tanks, and a pack of the Boge, either 2.0 or 3.0 in the XL size which can be punched in the future if you like, but will certainly work beautifully for you outside of a tank in the interim, while you figure it all out. If you've got a metal lava tube (like chrome/stainless/copper) with a loose draw, the unpunched 1.7om resurrectors are a great option for mid voltages, as well. I love the idea that some vendors are giving new vapers a tank in with their kits, but it can be problematic to troubleshoot them if you're not already super familiar with how carto work, ahead of time. My rule of thumb.... when you're new (and I don't know that you are, but try to write these things for a beginner to follow), and trying to stay off the cigs... aim for the simplest thing possible, till you get in the swing of things. Simplest for you, just for right now, would probably be a good carto out of a tank, while you figure out how to get optimal performance with the tank. But now you've got all your options, and a little how to guide on figuring out whether your carto is permanently unusable, or just had a funny fill. Good luck! let us know how it goes!
If its more than 1... that's your problem, right there. The cartos that have more than 1 hole prepunched tend to be best for thicker juices, like an 100% VG, thicker blends.
If its only one... the only thing I can tell you is that occasionally those 'prepunched' cartos have the same issue as the ones you punch yourself using a carto punch or a saddle valve. I'm not sure what the issue is, but I suspect that occasionally the hole breaks through into the center tube of the carto, or else is just way too big, so you get a ton of juice with your vapor. Another option, and this was the case with my friend... he actually disassembled his carto (after our troubleshooting established that the carto was funky) and found that he'd managed to MELT the inner plastic tube that keeps the juice away from the vapor hole. That was why he kept getting tons of juice in his vape. We suspect this is cause it was a dual coil, and the plastic down by the coils just melted. Another reason I like single coils in tanks. lol But for your situation, first thing I'll tell you is stop vaping with that thing! Nic levels in eliquid are safe, assuming you're getting them from a reputable vape shop, but you're not supposed to drink the juice! lol If you get any in your mouth, spit it out immediately and flush your mouth with water. I'm not expecting you to have any serious adverse reactions, cause you'd have to drink quite a bit of juice to run into nicotine poisoning issues, but nicotine is a stimulant and can cause your heart to race, and also virulent hiccoughs (hiccups) that last for hours... trust me, I've been there. But the bad news is that if the one carto that came with your tank setup isn't working properly, there's not much you can do to fix it. I'm not 100% certain its a bad punch, but that's what I suspect. If you're willing, we can do a little bit of troubleshooting to find out once and for all if the carto is bad, or if you just did a bad fill. This will take a little time and effort, though. Lucky for you, this just happened to a friend of mine so I had to figure out how to start fresh with a new fill to see if the carto was the issue, or a bad fill. This is what I worked out for him.
1) suck up all the juice you can get out of your tank with a syringe, and put it back in the juice bottle for now.
2)next step is to get the juice out of the carto. The quick way is to try to suck as much juice out as you possibly can with the syringe (I should have mentioned, you need the carto out of the tank for this part... which is why you took out the juice), simply by sticking the syringe all around the filler and sucking out as much as you can. This is less effective than using the 'reverse taryn spin' method to get the juice out. You can see a video on how to make a 'taryn spin bag' and do the basic taryn spin method here. This method is the best way (in my opinion) to fill filler cartos that you use outside of tanks for the first time, to get the longest life and best vape out of them, so its useful for other things, after this trouble shooting session. After you fill a carto with this method on the first fill, all you have to do from here on out is just drop 4-5 drops of liquid on the filler every few hours, and it will continue to vape great for weeks and weeks. And making the bag is a little hassle, but you only need to make one every 6 mos or so, and reuse it again and again. Instead of the long lanyard, i use two zip ties connected end to end to make a small loop, sliding it thru the 'holes' on the baggie before you connect the last two end together to finish your loop. That way you can just do a tiny spin around your finger, rather than the whole lanyard loop, but that way works just fine, as well. You can also use a $1.50 velveteen pouch w drawstrings to hold an ecig for this part, you can get those from many vape places and use those instead of the homemade bags for spinning.
How To Fill A 510 Cartomizer (Electronic Cigarette) - YouTube
Ok, so after you watch this video, make your Taryn spin bag. THEN, Instead of doing the taryn spin to fill your carto, you want to do the 'reverse taryn spin' to get the liquid OUT of your carto. So you put the condom from the end of your carto (you might have to steal this from another cartomizer, since the ones that come in tanks don't come with those clear plastic condoms over the ends.) on the TOP hole of the carto, pushed about halfway down. You push only halfway down so that its secure on the top end of your carto, yet there is still room in the condom for the juice to collect. Put your carto UPSIDE DOWN in the spin bag, so that the top part of the carto, with the condom on it, is down in the baggie, and the 510 connection .... of the carto is up at the top. Boy, this is hard to explain in writing. Hope this make sense! lol Then you just want to spin your bag like crazy, until the condom is filled with juice. Pull carto w condom on it carefully out of the bag, dump whats in the condom back into juice bottle. Then repeat, putting empty condom back on the top of your carto, put upside down in bag, spin like mad, empty... until you've gotten all the juice out of your carto. Might take 3 or 4 repetitions to get all the juice out. And of course, since there IS a hole on your carto, because it was designed for a tank, you might get a little juice out of that hole as you're spinning. But don't worry... that's what the bag is for... to contain any mess. Just rinse your bag out and set it aside so its ready the next time you want to do the taryn spin to fill carto.
Ok, so now you've got a relatively empty newish carto, and hopefully a relatively empty tank. You're ready to try one last time to see if this will work. And it sounded like you have the general concept of filling the tank down, but here's how I do it. One thing you mentioned might be problematic, so try it this way.
1)So, put the carto back into tank, pushing it only halfway home, so that there's still room for you to get a syringe in between the top of the tank, and the outer wall of the carto, for filling.
2)Start filling with a syringe, right up until you get the tank about halfway full. You're not filling it all the way because we're not sure this will work. lol You might end up having to take the juice out again, if it turns out your carto is the problem.
3)Ok, now push the carto up into place, until the bottom plate fits flush against the bottom of the tank. Now here's where you might have gone wrong..its hard to tell from the way you described it.
4)Ok, what you want to do is fill up the carto by using a syringe straight into the filler material at the bottom, so the bottom of the carto gets filled up first. Then gradually work your way with the syringe up into the higher filler material, until you start to see the filler at top getting saturated. You can top off with a few drops on top of the filler if it looks like you need it. BUT at no point are you 'flooding' the top of the filler, hole included, with juice. That part is important.
5)Now you may want to set it aside for 10 mins, so the hole can fill rest of carto filler with juice and it can soak in. Now you can start vaping again.
Here's the bummer part... if you're STILL getting loads of juice in your mouth, than that carto is toast. Something went wrong with the hole punching part, and there's nothing you can do to fix that. You just need to either contact your seller, and tell him you followed troubleshooting directions at ecf exactly,and the carto is flooding center hole with juice... if you're lucky, he'll send you a new one, but that's not super likely. Many cartos have no guarantee unless they're Dead On Arrival, which yours is not.
Either way, you want to buy some new cartos for your tank, and were I you, I'd get a pack for use outside of your tank, just to be safe. Depending on the voltage you like to vape at, I like Boge 2.0ohm and Resurrector 1.7ohm single coil smoktechs for mid voltage vaping (resurrectors are also available bottom plated w 1 hole punched in em from Crystal Clear Vaping. I've used MANY of his plated and punched 1.7ohm cartos, and never had one yet that was unusable out of the box, like yours) or the Boge 3s for high voltage. That would be an excellent thing to try if you're not into punching holes into your own cartos. I find punching my own a bit problematic. I certainly do it, but relatively often the hole will be too big, so I'll end up with the juice in mouth situation, which is what you're trying to avoid. BUT if you're comfortable punching your own, either Boge 2.0s or Resurrector single coils smoktech 1.7ohms for mid voltages or boge 3.0s at high voltages, BOTH IN THE XL SIZE, are excellent cartos to punch for use in tanks.
Ok, so not sure what you're gonna end up with after all that... let us know what happens! But unfortunately, some cartos with holes are funny right out of the box, so that whole troubleshooting brouhaha is designed to find out if yours is bad, or if you just flooded with filling. If you're not in the mood to mess with all that... if I had to guess, I'd say the carto is bad, unfortunately. Were I you, I'd buy a few of the 'punched and plated' 1.7ohm resurrector cartos in singles to try out in the tanks, and a pack of the Boge, either 2.0 or 3.0 in the XL size which can be punched in the future if you like, but will certainly work beautifully for you outside of a tank in the interim, while you figure it all out. If you've got a metal lava tube (like chrome/stainless/copper) with a loose draw, the unpunched 1.7om resurrectors are a great option for mid voltages, as well. I love the idea that some vendors are giving new vapers a tank in with their kits, but it can be problematic to troubleshoot them if you're not already super familiar with how carto work, ahead of time. My rule of thumb.... when you're new (and I don't know that you are, but try to write these things for a beginner to follow), and trying to stay off the cigs... aim for the simplest thing possible, till you get in the swing of things. Simplest for you, just for right now, would probably be a good carto out of a tank, while you figure out how to get optimal performance with the tank.
But now you've got all your options, and a little how to guide on figuring out whether your carto is permanently unusable, or just had a funny fill. Good luck! let us know how it goes!
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It only does this with the 1.7 res and it does it on all of them. I put the same cartos on my ego battery and it works just fine. When I use the LT with them it seems like there is hardly any voltage going to them. It also shuts itself down. I thought maybe because they were so low in Ohm the LT wasnt liking it. I hardly pushed those cartos if ever over 3.7. Its been a problem since i got them. So just made a ticket to volcano and see if they will check it out. When my Ego hits better than my LT something is wrong. Especially at 3.0.
Toweknee (I'm guessing you live in a resort town? lol Cool screen name) Yeah, definitely do get that checked out. I promise that's not the way its supposed to work. You poor thing. But good thing you've got a warranty, and i've heard they're pretty good about swapping out the bad units. I promise, you'll like it much more when your device isnt' fritzing. lol A friend of mine had the same thing.. he didn't realize it was a problem, just thought he didn't like the lavatube. I talked to him about it, and sure enough, it wasn't working properly at all. He got it swapped out, and everything is amazing now. Oh, and he calls the Resurrectors the 'Vapor Beast'! lol Hoping you're much happier once that's resolved.
That guy in the story was Chosen_1 aka Ha-y-n, who makes the awesome wood mods. I can report that the 1.7ohm resurrectors work great on his 3.7v mods, also. lol
That guy in the story was Chosen_1 aka Ha-y-n, who makes the awesome wood mods. I can report that the 1.7ohm resurrectors work great on his 3.7v mods, also. lol
Sounds like the carto isn't making a good connection. Try pulling the post. Here's a tutorial video: Taste Your Juice | HOW TO PULL YOUR POST You can also pull the post on the LT up a bit, too, not just the post on the carto. The above advice is also for one of the previous posters, whose DCT wouldn't fire on the LT.
You can also pull the post on the LT up a bit, too, not just the post on the carto. The above advice is also for one of the previous posters, whose DCT wouldn't fire on the LT.
Its not the posts I did try that though. I also pulled the spring up a bit to push the batteries in more but it also didnt help. There is something def wrong but it only does it on the ressurectors which is weird. Could be a bad board or wiring who knows. When i use 3.0 or 2.0 boges it seems to work fine but it still cuts off rather quick. When I use the 1.7 it barely fires and cuts off very quickly even at 3.0 setting.
my guess is that you got a weak regulator chip. If they get too hot when being soldered or are just bad off the line, they can do really odd things. It also could just be some flaky resistors in the LT. Send that thing in and get a replacement. You will be much happier. I really need to hard test my other 3 tubes...I haven't used them much, just in case. There seems to be a batch that is pretty flaky.
Morning Orachel, and Thanks!! After I have my coffee and get my morning stuff done, I'll study this again -- not enough caffeine yet so it made my head spin!! Later...........
Later...........
Hey guys! Gotta run for an appointment. Orachel, I've tried part of your suggestions and will continue first chance I get! Thank you SO much -- you're a doll!! Oh, it's a single hole carto, btw.
Oh, it's a single hole carto, btw.
I'm so excited! I got my shipping notification for my chrome mini vtube! *happy dance* Ordered it on the 3rd so not too bad a wait!
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Whoohoo, auntie! And Funnyfarm... I'm 99% sure its just that carto specifically. Once you get some new ones, I know you'll be good. I checked out the listing of the actual product you got... cool tank and driptip!
And everyone.... FunnyFarm dropped into a women's room area on decorating pvs, and got me thinking. I found a place that does standard (their designs) or custom (your designs) skins for lavatubes! They also do laser etching, which would be mighty cool on a stainless or metal one. I'm not sure how it would work on a powdercoat one, but maybe someone here knows better. But if you're looking to personalize your mod... here's the place to do it. BTW, I do custom skins for myself and gifts, and these are WAY better quality than anything you can whip up yourself. I checked. They're nice automotive grade vinyl. They can be repositioned a few x, and won't leave your device covered in icky stickum if you ever wanna remove it. BTW, they don't have the LT listed in the custom skins, but clearly they can do it cause they offer preprinted ones for the lavatube...
CUSTOM eGO and MOD SKINZ
And everyone.... FunnyFarm dropped into a women's room area on decorating pvs, and got me thinking. I found a place that does standard (their designs) or custom (your designs) skins for lavatubes! They also do laser etching, which would be mighty cool on a stainless or metal one. I'm not sure how it would work on a powdercoat one, but maybe someone here knows better. But if you're looking to personalize your mod... here's the place to do it. BTW, I do custom skins for myself and gifts, and these are WAY better quality than anything you can whip up yourself. I checked. They're nice automotive grade vinyl. They can be repositioned a few x, and won't leave your device covered in icky stickum if you ever wanna remove it. BTW, they don't have the LT listed in the custom skins, but clearly they can do it cause they offer preprinted ones for the lavatube...
CUSTOM eGO and MOD SKINZ
Hi again Orachel! Okay, I've done everything including the reverse spin (thanks for the link to that), but I'm waiting to let the carto air dry a little more before trying again. If it doesn't work after that, I'll order new cartos -- need one for backup anyway. Oh, and a TON of juice came out from the spin, even after sucking out about a ml with the syringe!!
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