Lavatube Noob Thread - ??? about LAVATUBES and Accessories for them...Post your questions here....

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Errol

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I should have been more precise Deb. :) You wouldn't take it off every time you lay it down. You would duplicate what you did with the carto on, that is turn if off and lay it down just the same but without the carto to see if the same thing happens. Just once would be enough to see if you have a residual voltage draw from you pv with the carto attached.

FWIW the battery will heat up if it is being discharged rapidly though I doubt you are vaping fast enough and long enough to create that condition.

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Errol, what will taking the carto off do? I can do that if need be, but that would mean removing it every time I lay it down. I usually take 2-3 puffs, lay it down for a few minutes, grab it again for a few more puffs etc. So every few minutes I'd be taking the carto on and off. Since this has happened (getting warm) even when the unit was turned off while it was laid down, do you still think taking the carto off each time is necessary to isolate something? Again this doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes. I'm using a ce3 bottom coil if that matters at all. I'll do that if I need to, just want to understand what I'm looking for and if it still could be an issue even if the unit was off. Thanks!
 

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Yep, capellas. Did this deal...
5 Flavor Super Deal for 19.95

As to the sealed question... powdercoated ones I'd say are sealed. The chrome stainless have a pin design with an ego native 'channel', so I'd call them relatively unsealed. Aren't a ton of issues from leakage, though, because people clean the connection. Sorry to be so obtuse.. rather weird answer to a simple question with the all metal tubes. However, the Young June v2 tubes (at crystal clear vaping) seem to have a 'closed' connection.
 

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K... good question! So sorry I haven't posted that for you guys till now!

XTAR WP2 II charging settings


0 - Use '0' setting ONLY if you want to charge something via the usb port on your WP2. In order to do this, you must have a charged battery IN the first charging port (far left w the cord on the L hand side of your body). The charger will 'feed' charge from the battery into your usb device. I use this for passthrough, plus comes in really handy when you're using the charger in the car, and need to charge usb devices. You CANNOT charge something via usb while charging batteries in the channels, though, I don't believe.

Main Settings for charging batteries...

.5 - This delivers 500mA to your batteries. This is the slower setting, but it also what I recommend for regular use. Its charges slow and steady, yet still MUCH faster than cheap chargers. NOTE... it is VERY important that you not charge your batteries at a higher setting than they can handle. Any batteries under 70mm can be charged at the .5 (500 mA) setting. 500 setting works for all batteries.

1 - This delivers 1000mA (1A) to your batteries. VERY IMPORTANT... never charge anything at a setting higher than it can handle. In other words, if you have 2 900mah 14500 batteries in the channels, neither of those is equipped to handle 1000mA, so you MUST use the .5 setting. This is why its safer to leave it on .5. BUT if you're ever in a hurry, and need to charge 2 1600Mah 18650 batteries, each of those are capable of holding over 1000mA, so you could use the higher setting. Just remember to switch it back! 1000mA setting works ONLY for batteries over 1000mah each.

Hope that helped! Again, I'm not a battery expert, but when I got my WP2 I asked a few people, and they said those rules above are for safest charging possible. I honestly just leave mine on the 500Ma (.5) setting for just about everything unless I've got a 'backlog' of batts to charge. Then I'll do the very largest capacity ones (18650s) at 1A setting.

I just got this Xtar and a few AW 18350's for the SS Vtube mini (which I guess were charged prior to shipping cause it took maybe 10 min to finish). While the charger is safer than most at that price, and I think most of you are using 18650 batteries (among others, which I'm sure fit great) the 18350's require 2 spacers in order to work with this charger, which is no big deal. HOWEVER, using 2 spacers on either side causes the battery to basically sit at the midpoint of the battery slot, which is where there is no wall on either side. This leaves the 18350 free to JUMP out when the wind blows too hard. Really though it always happens when putting the second battery in and the slightest nudge will cause it to slip out, or slingshot out the side when the spring releases. It may not necessarily be considered a problem by most, but it sure is annoying having to align each one carefully every time and slowly retreat without causing the "Operation" game buzzer to go off. Anyone come across this issue with these or other batteries that use spacers?
 

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orachel,
I figured out the vivi nova tank problem. Mine didn't work on two seperate occasions after I took it apart to clean and change flavors. Other times it worked like it used to. As you might have gathered from chatting with me for some time now I wasn't going to let that happen without figuring it out!!!!!
I haven't eaten dinner yet (playing with the damn tank). So I am going to feed the dogs, eat myself and think about the best way to state the solution so everyone can understand and fix their own. Be back soon!
-dave
 

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I just got this Xtar and a few AW 18350's for the SS Vtube mini (which I guess were charged prior to shipping cause it took maybe 10 min to finish). While the charger is safer than most at that price, and I think most of you are using 18650 batteries (among others, which I'm sure fit great) the 18350's require 2 spacers in order to work with this charger, which is no big deal. HOWEVER, using 2 spacers on either side causes the battery to basically sit at the midpoint of the battery slot, which is where there is no wall on either side. This leaves the 18350 free to JUMP out when the wind blows too hard. Really though it always happens when putting the second battery in and the slightest nudge will cause it to slip out, or slingshot out the side when the spring releases. It may not necessarily be considered a problem by most, but it sure is annoying having to align each one carefully every time and slowly retreat without causing the "Operation" game buzzer to go off. Anyone come across this issue with these or other batteries that use spacers?

18350 batteries sitting in no man's land...
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The spacers work to charge the 18350, but that size is not listed on the box for whatever reason
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yes the 510-510 shorty and 3.5ml tank cone adapter. Orachel explains the adapters needed for vtube in this tutorial/

No, well yes if you want! But it is NOT needed!

Here is how to use the Vivi Nova V2 (air hole above the 510 threads, not on knurled ring that makes up bottom of tank) with the chrome or SS Lavatube (L-Rider V2) WITHOUT an adapter (510-510 shorty) or 3.5ml tank cone.

You should only need to follow these directions once. After that you will know where to point.

1, put a mark on the lower knurled bottom ring of the tank (I used a Sharpie) directly over the air hole.

2. screw the knurled bottom ring on to (or actually into) the Lava Tube (Vtube) firmly but not tighter than where it stops.

3. either mark the place where the first mark rests on the top of the LT or (if your lucky) it will line up with a button.

4. simply turn the slit (groove?) in the brass colored center pin to that mark (or place).

Now you should have perfect air flow. Mine is not too tight, not too airy. Each time you want to put your tank on your LT simply turn that slit to the same spot. If you used a mark you will soon learn where the spot is in reference to something. For instance my spot is approx. 1/8 inch to the right of the right edge of the fire button.

OR use an adapter or tank cone. But I knew it could be done!!
 

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The spacers work to charge the 18350, but that size is not listed on the box for whatever reason

While the 18350 might not be listed on the XTAR WPII box, Orbtronic.com, the battery and charger supplier, has added it to the write-up of the WPII on their website. They also found out who was buying all their WPII's and Panasonic 18650's because the website also now specifically mentions ecigs and vaporizers on the write-ups for these products. As of 7/17/12 @12:30PM EDT they were out of stock on both these items but Sal from Orbtronic.com says they are both ordered and he expects them in shortly.
 

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No, well yes if you want! But it is NOT needed!

Here is how to use the Vivi Nova V2 (air hole above the 510 threads, not on knurled ring that makes up bottom of tank) with the chrome or SS Lavatube (L-Rider V2) WITHOUT an adapter (510-510 shorty) or 3.5ml tank cone.

You should only need to follow these directions once. After that you will know where to point.

1, put a mark on the lower knurled bottom ring of the tank (I used a Sharpie) directly over the air hole.

2. screw the knurled bottom ring on to (or actually into) the Lava Tube (Vtube) firmly but not tighter than where it stops.

3. either mark the place where the first mark rests on the top of the LT or (if your lucky) it will line up with a button.

4. simply turn the slit (groove?) in the brass colored center pin to that mark (or place).

Now you should have perfect air flow. Mine is not too tight, not too airy. Each time you want to put your tank on your LT simply turn that slit to the same spot. If you used a mark you will soon learn where the spot is in reference to something. For instance my spot is approx. 1/8 inch to the right of the right edge of the fire button.

OR use an adapter or tank cone. But I knew it could be done!!

That makes sense and should work if the threading on both is precise, however my Vivi Nova threading is SLOPPY and the diameter of the 510 connection is slightly smaller than whatever it should be. So I have to keep it centered while screwing it in because it wobbles quite a bit until tightened all the way. It has become skewed or warped or misshapen after having to do this on various devices and adapters. This makes the brass center pin rotate when tightening the tank, so it will not stay aligned where the mark is. When I unscrew the tank the slit is in a different spot almost every time. Also the center pin on my SS vtube seems to be slightly off too.

So ideally your method SHOULD work if manufacturers had to adhere to any quality control standards. Even with the 3.5 tank cone adapter I have to adjust it 1/4 or 1/2 back after tightening.
 

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While the 18350 might not be listed on the XTAR WPII box, Orbtronic.com, the battery and charger supplier, has added it to the write-up of the WPII on their website. They also found out who was buying all their WPII's and Panasonic 18650's because the website also now specifically mentions ecigs and vaporizers on the write-ups for these products. As of 7/17/12 @12:30PM EDT they were out of stock on both these items but Sal from Orbtronic.com says they are both ordered and he expects them in shortly.

Maybe that's why they include the 18350 in the description, and yes it charges just about everything. It was also listed on every other site that sells that charger - I just thought it was funny that the spacers cause that size battery to sit where where they can easily pop out all the time, and noticed it wasn't advertised on the box. Probably not related, or maybe it is? Could be why they make the Xtar MP2, but I'm sure I will need the 18650 for something soon enough so I got this one.
 

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Been reading this thread for weeks now and still havent read the whole thing. still on page 27 lol. Just wanted to stop in and say i love my apollo vtube black. Didnt go for the ss for budget. Still love it better than anything else. This thread has gave me so much info on what to get tank and carto wise, saved me a lot of money thanks orachel!!!
 

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A bit off top but what the heck, sue me. :)

An interesting new VV PV from eGo, Super Variable Voltage eGo

If this unit works a well as the eGo twist it should be a great beginners VV PV with adjustable volts from 3v to 6v just like the big boys.

Errol

Holy frijole! These people never want to see me actually save money, I swear. When that comes in 1000 maH I'm on it like a fly on a cow patty. I have two Twist's and they are fantastic.
 
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