Let's make a list of juices/flavors that crack tanks, ce2's/clearos...

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wyojoe

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UPDATE

My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to crack. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/259319-heres-pic-my-polypropylene-tank.html

The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing, and they come in 8 colors. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. These tanks can be used with most XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto.

There is also a thread here on ecf which will show you how to make your own "syringe tank mod". http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...756-homemade-syringe-tank-mod-looks-easy.html

Also, bear in mind that different vendors may use different ingredients to make the same flavors. So, a flavored e juice you get from one vendor that is safe for yout tank may not be safe from another vendor, or vice versa. For instance, I have no trouble at all with VaporGod strawberry kiwi, but Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake will probably crack a polycarbonate tank. Also, just because a certain juice may crack my polycarbonate tank, it may not crack yours. I don't know why... Clear as mud, huh?

Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

Any juice that has:

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake, snickerdoodle
KBV Hummingbird nectar
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Vapor Renu Teaberry, cherry vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew baha blast and Strawberry limeade
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake
Nutmeg
Clove oil
Mt. Dew flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
Sassafras
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
Vaporgod Licorice
VAL Goddess
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Alien Vision's Pineapple Pulp
ECBlend's Gingerbread, double flavor
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime


Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out.

With so many folks using tanks nowadays, let's all contribute here!!

Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.
Very good update. I sent people to this site when ever I see a question about juices the crack clear carto's. This does give them a heads up about possible problems. Thanks for your work with the updates.
 

redbucket

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Used unflavored juice with Spearmint flavoring from Flavor Apprentice, it reacted with the plastic in my Stardust dramatically. Discolored (foggy) and created little white bumps/crystals/whatever, with the appearance of salt, sticking to the inside. It kind of lives up to the name "star dust". Tossed it, who knows what I'd be vaping if I continued using it. I likely used more spearmint flavor than recommended, it is very strong used in an eGo-T atomizer but still vapable. Doesn't mess with the eGo-T atomizer.
 

kelleymcm

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I messed up my 1st stardust tank w/honeysuckle :facepalm: wasn't paying attention & grabbed wrong bottle .cracked & turned milky... but on a positive note ....got vapes just started carrying the replacement tubes for stardusts & there is a video out there that shows how easy stardusts are to re-wick ....so it is worth fixing in MHO & just thought I'd share the info w/y'all.
Gotvapes Stardust: Changing the Wick & Coil - YouTube & GotVapes eGo Vision Stardust Replacement Tubes & Ring - Clear [gv-egostardust-repalcementtubes] - $1.29 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
 

Anthonyy207

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I know cinnamon is already on the list but Vaporbombs Fire N Ice cracked and clouded my smokeless image clearomizer tank within a day. It also "melted" the bottom of the rubber drip tip. I didn't realize this could happen until it was too late. My wife and I also have 2 clearomizers with vaporbombs new blueberry juice for 2 1/2 days with no cloudiness or cracks or drip tip issues.
 

my4jewels

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You would have to contact the vendor and ask them. I am not familiar with Fluxos. Polycarbonate is the material which is sensitive to cracking. Polypropylene, which is usually slightly cloudy, is impervious to chemical reactions from juices.

Does anybody know what the fluxomiser plastic is made of? It's the new "unbreakable" stuff that supposedly doesn't crack.
 

my4jewels

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Added a few more...I appreciate all of the good info on which flavors will not crack your polycarbonate tanks. Unfortunately, I can list those as the list would just get unmanageable. But, don't stop posting it because I'm sure it'll help someone. The focus of the list is to inform folks of ejuices and flavors that are potentially problematic and may causing cracking of their polycarbonate tanks.

UPDATE

My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to crack. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/259319-heres-pic-my-polypropylene-tank.html

The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing, and they come in 8 colors. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference.

There is also a thread here on ecf which will show you how to make your own "syringe tank mod". http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...756-homemade-syringe-tank-mod-looks-easy.html

Also, bear in mind that different vendors may use different ingredients to make the same flavors. So, a flavored e juice you get from one vendor that is safe for yout tank may not be safe from another vendor, or vice versa. For instance, I have no trouble at all with VaporGod strawberry kiwi, but Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake will probably crack a polycarbonate tank. Also, just because a certain juice may crack my polycarbonate tank, it may not crack yours. I don't know why... Clear as mud, huh?

Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

Any juice that has:

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake, snickerdoodle
KBV Hummingbird nectar
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Vapor Renu Teaberry, cherry vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew baha blast and Strawberry limeade
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake
Nutmeg
Clove oil
Mt. Dew flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
Sassafras
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
Vaporgod Licorice
VAL Goddess
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Alien Vision's Pineapple Pulp
ECBlend's Gingerbread, double flavor
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime
TPA Spearmint flavoring
Honeysuckle
Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip)



Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out.

With so many folks using tanks nowadays, let's all contribute here!!

Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.
 

Anthonyy207

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I get my juice from vaporbomb and have brought this to their attention on their ECF page and hopefully will be getting some information back about what juices are safe and not save for polycarbonate tanks. Id really like to see hardware venders have a warning with clearomizers and juice venders have a safe polycarbonate tank list next to their juices. Would make my life easier, Just my 2 cents.
 

RayN

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I get my juice from vaporbomb and have brought this to their attention on their ECF page and hopefully will be getting some information back about what juices are safe and not save for polycarbonate tanks. Id really like to see hardware venders have a warning with clearomizers and juice venders have a safe polycarbonate tank list next to their juices. Would make my life easier, Just my 2 cents.

Personally, I'm hoping they all switch to polypropylene tanks. AFAIK, those are safe for all flavors.
 

Stereomojo

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I wonder if this isn't more a tank product specific issue. I've had 3 polycarb tanks from 2 vendors for months and used all kinds of liquid with no problems. I like Snickerdoodle for example which has lots of cin. I wonder if there are different qualities of polycarb. One local vendor told me his tanks are military grade polycarb and will not be harmed by any juices. He is right. I think my other tank is a Smoketech. no problems there either. What do you think?
 

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Well, here's what I got straight from the vendors mouth. These are all juices from The Vapor Room (.net) that they do not recommend using with the DCT tanks (prolly at least the tanks they sell, which are Smoketech I believe). I have not personally tried these flavors in my DCT tanks. They list:
-Sweet Cherry
-Green Apple
-Sun Kissed
-Hot Cinnamon Candy
-Cinnamon Red Hots

They are researching other flavors that they will be posting on the web site soon.

-Happy Vaping
-Cru
 
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ynzr

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I believe it has been briefly mentioned before, but has anyone had a flavor react poorly to rubber (or whatever that black material is) o-rings/syringe plungers?

I was using LorAnn Peppermint Oil for flavoring which cracked a v2 Stardust (Polycarbonate I assume), but it also ruined the rubber plungers on two syringes. The plungers didn't fall apart or anything like that but they did expand in size, got stuck in the syringe tube and obviously no longer work.

Would what I experienced involve my4jewels' statement concerning "Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics" ?

In any case, I'm no longer using the peppermint oil.
 

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I wish I would have done more research on this before purchasing my first tank.. I should have just saved up for a Phiniac or made a syringe mod (what I will do now). I feel like out of the 30+ flavors I have I can use RY4 or 555 :glare: It seems everything I like is on this list..
Anyway thanks for putting this list together, without it my tank would have not lasted the first hour as I would have put my favorite "atomic" in it..
 
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