But but.. what if they make a counterfeit and then clone that counterfeit, would that be a counterfeit clone or a clone counterfeit?!
The "Russian" brand of atomizers was a copied design and comes out of China. All other speculation is complete rumor.
That's correct. The manu of the Russian impose strict MSRP preventing resellers from undercutting the market. The competing factories in China have the ability to flood the market with ones you see on Cr@ptech, which is why those clone prices are so low. The Kayfun is manufactured in far smaller numbers and uses higher grade steel than the Russian including any clone. I have Russians and Kayfuns. The Russian is a good atty. Although it has improvements in design, the Kayfun still beats it. Most don't or can't tell the difference. Discerning enthusiasts can. When it comes to quality, there are simply those who are willing to pay for it and those who aren't.Nah..... that would mean that all the people buying the "Russian" stuff are dropping 5x the dough on pretty much the same bit of kit that I got from FT
That's correct. The manu of the Russian impose strict MSRP preventing resellers from undercutting the market. The competing factories in China have the ability to flood the market with ones you see on Cr@ptech, which is why those clone prices are so low. The Kayfun is manufactured in far smaller numbers and uses higher grade steel than the Russian including any clone. I have Russians and Kayfuns. The Russian is a good atty. Although it has improvements in design, the Kayfun still beats it. Most don't or can't tell the difference. Discerning enthusiasts can. When it comes to quality, there are simply those who are willing to pay for it and those who aren't.
X...what is the difference in materials KF Vs R91?
The Russian line was not developed by the creator(s) of the Kayfun. There was never a split in the Svoemesto company and the original developers (one from Russia and one from Germany) are still in business together. The "Russian" brand of atomizers was a copied design and comes out of China. All other speculation is complete rumor.
Cough cough.. Provari!That's correct. The manu of the Russian impose strict MSRP preventing resellers from undercutting the market. The competing factories in China have the ability to flood the market with ones you see on Cr@ptech, which is why those clone prices are so low. The Kayfun is manufactured in far smaller numbers and uses higher grade steel than the Russian including any clone. I have Russians and Kayfuns. The Russian is a good atty. Although it has improvements in design, the Kayfun still beats it. Most don't or can't tell the difference. Discerning enthusiasts can. When it comes to quality, there are simply those who are willing to pay for it and those who aren't.
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Quick question:
I'd like to get a metal needle tip to fill the KFMini, but I think HHV's needle tips are too small - it would have to make a fairly good seal before you can squeeze the juice in.
InTastes super-slim plastic needle tips work ok, but they get rather bent up if you're not careful.
Anybody know the gauge of that fill hole on the Kayfuns?
And where to procure said needle top?
Quick question:
I'd like to get a metal needle tip to fill the KFMini, but I think HHV's needle tips are too small - it would have to make a fairly good seal before you can squeeze the juice in.
InTastes super-slim plastic needle tips work ok, but they get rather bent up if you're not careful.
Anybody know the gauge of that fill hole on the Kayfuns?
And where to procure said needle top?
16 ga would be best. 18 works.
I do both at the same time3mm silica wick in the tank feeding a cotton bed and wick...
I'd love to see a pic of how that's set up. I can't visualise how this looks in a KFC, unless I'm not supposed to be visualising a KFC/KFL.![]()