retic so glad you are liking it. I have really heard nothing but good things about hcigar.........
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Nope but you got something to look forward to , much better than the R91% clone .
Can these things be filled from the bottom or do you have to use the side fill port?!
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I fill through the top , I wouldn't trust the fill port on a genuine Kayfun 3.1 either , seems like it would wear out eventually and orings are a lot easier to replace .
When filling from the top, are you required to do aerial acrobatics while standing on your head, or is it simply a matter of unscrewing and filling?
As long as you put your finger over the air hole it's not a problem , I just block the air hole and fill , I've seen recommendations to start the top cap in the threads and flip it upside down while yo finish screwing it on but I just screw it on all the way take my finger off then flip for a second to clear the air bubble out .
Yeah I do the flipping upside down bit. Then still end up flooding a tiny tiny bit. Not a problem though. While upside down I blow out the excess and I'm golden.
Dusty my side fill hole is plugged. Regardless my 2 hcigar 3.1s are worth the price I paid... Overall I still prefer my legit lites though...
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Me neither.... The valve on my KFC broke... the inner metal ring, whatever function it serves, popped out on the needle last week. Looking at it, it's a REALLY small little part. I don't care how much better the construction on the authentic one is, that is still a tiny, fragile part that you are constantly jabbing and torquing with a steel needle. Guessing that the bottom filler is another one of the 'improvements' on the design... that side valve, as convenient as it may be, is a weak point. The bottom port, as long as the threads aren't borked, is pretty bulletproof (no little, delicate, moving parts).
No matter, I plugged the hole and started filling from the top. I cover the vent when I fill, then seal it up when done. Before I take my finger off the port, I'll tip it back over to help equalize the pressure in the chamber. I might get a slight gurgle at first, but it clears up pretty quick.
It's nice to sit with the oldies and hear their stories of the "old days" and how they used to walk to school and back, uphill both ways!!
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I never had to walk to school; we had busses, but it was uphill both ways
It just makes me feel less old. A conversation got brought up the other day about the baby on Nirvana's Nevermind album. He's 22 now. This April marks 20 years since Cobain died. Smells Like Teen Spirit is playing on classic rock stations.
Nirvana, weren't they on the Ed Sullivan Show once?
Retic, you didn't mention whether the fill port was on the side or bottom. Could you clarify please? O-ring? The mini doesn't have one. Or it may and I haven't noticed it. hmmm
EDIT: Never mind, I see MrPicC and Leo have answered for you.
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Chak the 3.1 has an o-ring between the top cap and the tank , I figure it's a little more wear on that o-ring filling from the top , I took one look at that sideport on the FT 3.1 and figured that the valve spring would have to be tiny and that spells eventual failure to me no matter what you make it out of , always a chance of accidentally shoving debris in there as well if you shove your mod in a pocket like I do . Don't know why flipping the atty upside down should be an issue for Dusty , ya gotta flip the KFL upside down to fill or go through the top either way ya gotta flip it . The 3.1 has more airflow than the R91% clone and I'm able to get more flavor out of it I would say it's just me but BK came to the same conclusion and I've read that some people are removing the AFC screw completely from the KFL + , the R91% clone has other issues that I already mentioned in a previous post so I'm sticking with the 3.1's , if hcigar makes a KFL clone I'll definitely take a good look at it , I'm really impressed with this 3.1
Well.... seems to me that the air flow control really has zero to do with how well people like the draw...it's for pressure control inside the chamber. The tighter the air flow, the more of a vacuum inside the chamber, increasing the intake pressure on the juice.
Guessing that on the 3.1, there is less pressure needed, so that means that the draw can be looser. On other devices, it takes a bit more oomph, hence the tight draw, even when it's wide open. It might very well be the case that if the R91 has a looser draw, people with thick juices would have flow issues.
Guessing that on the 3.1, there is less pressure needed, so that means that the draw can be looser. On other devices, it takes a bit more oomph, hence the tight draw, even when it's wide open. It might very well be the case that if the R91 has a looser draw, people with thick juices would have flow issues.
Leo the afc on both my 3.1's definitely affect the draw , the R91% clone has a stiffer draw even with the afc screw removed , if you compare center posts it's easy to see why , the 3.1 has a larger pathway as well as a larger air port on the side , drilling out the air port wouldn't have much effect because the center post is more constrictive . By the way I changed the afc screw on the FT 3.1 and I can totally shut off airflow if I want without fear of the screw falling inwards as some have reported , changed the post screws too , did you get your ss replacement parts yet ?
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