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PapawBrett

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The new Xtar VP1 at RTD is really nice. LCD screen shows the current voltage of the battery(ies) in the charger. Independent bays. No spacers needed for 35mm bats. Automatic restart if you leave a battery in the charger and it self-discharges below 3.9v. Aaaaand I just noticed they're sold out.

I just ordered the xtar WP6 II from RTD, along with six additional xtar spacers. Six bay charger, so should keep up with needs for two mods, a mini and a VVGrand (I hope...)
 
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I just ordered the Xtar WP6 II from RTD, along with six additional Xtar spacers. Five bay charger, so should keep up with needs for two mods, a mini and a VVGrand (I hope...)

I have the WP2 II. It's a great and totally reliable charger. Totally intelligent charging. Won't overcharge and since it cuts off all power to the bat once it's charged, you can feel safe about leaving it unattended. I still want the VP1 though so I can see the state of the battery in real time.
 

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I just ordered the Xtar WP6 II from RTD, along with six additional Xtar spacers. Six bay charger, so should keep up with needs for two mods, a mini and a VVGrand (I hope...)

So jealous. Think if I plan on getting another mod it would be a bottom feeder.


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New Provari :)

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They really are Biv. I was not expecting them to be as robust as they are. And truthfully, I like the quality of readout better than the Provari. I've heard of durability problems with the VAMO so that remains to be seen for me.

I haven't had any issues with mine. I've read of the 'rare' issue now and then, but
pound for pound, considering all of the people who bought them, there is not a
significant number of problems to say the Vamo has issues. It wouldn't matter what
we bought, one of them every now and then is going to have a baddy.

But, I do agree with 'that remains to be seen.' I've had mine maybe three months or
more now, but I want to know if it's going to last for a few months, a year, a few
years? Right?

I paid $29. If it lasts a year, I got way more than my money's worth. I mean, that's
like $75 a month. No, wait <shoes fly across room and counting commences>. OK,
that's like $14 a year. Dang it. Hold on... oh, never mind. But it's less than a dollar-
two-ninety.

But, I don't know if they make any mod with electronics in it that will last several
years. Even Provari is afeered to give you more than a year unless you pay for the
extra warranty. So, what do you think - how long might a good mod with regulated,
VV, VW, etc. last?
 

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Bess is a good name. I used to buy a lot of CNC equipment and I'd give them names. Wouldn't be long and everyone would know it by its name. Doesn't work well when you have to call in a repair guy though. You'd tell them Ivan was down and they had no clue what you were talking about. :)

If we are going to name our mods, I'll call my Vamo Burf.

Burf is what Jerry Van .... calls .... (Van ....) in the old .... Van .... Show.

Then again, that's an even worse problem, Bronze. If I had to call a repair person
and told her my Burf was down - well, that could go any way, so to speak.

That reminds me of the pills for when manly men aren't so manly. The commercial
on TV says call your doctor if you have, well, let's say success, for more than four
hours. I could just picture me calling my doctor to tell her that. She would probably
tell me take a hike - or, at least a cold shower.
 

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Has anyone been able to find the old style T3s with two air holes?

They went out of production just after they were released. You could email vendors and ask if they have any in stock. Most vendors did a fire sale on the first run of T3s because of common complaints that the tighter draw led to frequent flooding/gurgling. You can always plug one of the holes with a wooden toothpick and break it off at the opening. It works and it's reversible.
 

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Thx! Yeah I believe Bronze suggested that to me a bit ago. I actually enjoy an airy draw, and it seems the T2s are even better in this respect. I'd use T2s exclusively if it wasn't for the whole "gotta dip the wick" thing. They're great if you keep them full, but when I get down to about maybe 40%, I end up OCD about wick dipping. Just becomes a chore or I get dry hits. T3s have been fantastic, but there is a slight plastic/wick taste here and there, especially if I go past 6.5 watts. T2s don't seem to give me that problem so much, and still yield a fuller draw. I'd heard the original T3s were a combination of both positives. Was just curious to try them, but looks like it's a no go.

Oh well! Thx for the info.
 

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Thx! Yeah I believe Bronze suggested that to me a bit ago. I actually enjoy an airy draw, and it seems the T2s are even better in this respect. I'd use T2s exclusively if it wasn't for the whole "gotta dip the wick" thing. They're great if you keep them full, but when I get down to about maybe 40%, I end up OCD about wick dipping. Just becomes a chore or I get dry hits. T3s have been fantastic, but there is a slight plastic/wick taste here and there, especially if I go past 6.5 watts. T2s don't seem to give me that problem so much, and still yield a fuller draw. I'd heard the original T3s were a combination of both positives. Was just curious to try them, but looks like it's a no go.

Oh well! Thx for the info.

I get that too, even with the Evod. I can't figure out what causes the taste. Sometimes I think it's the plastic mouthpiece. There is no plastic in contact with the vapor otherwise. If it's the wick, I suppose you could just rebuild the coil using your own silica or cotton. I only have 2 Evods and use them in case of emergency. No more clearos for me until someone gets the dern things right.
 

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I get that too, even with the Evod. I can't figure out what causes the taste. Sometimes I think it's the plastic mouthpiece. There is no plastic in contact with the vapor otherwise. If it's the wick, I suppose you could just rebuild the coil using your own silica or cotton. I only have 2 Evods and use them in case of emergency. No more clearos for me until someone gets the dern things right.
That is a damn good idea.

I'll look into trying the cotton. However, I haven't advanced into the rebuilding stage yet. lol still very green.

Also, I'm starting to get tired of the clearo world I've stuck myself in exclusively. Time and time again, I've heard dripping is the way to go, hands down. I mean, I don't even know what I need for that. I know I'd need a dripper tip, but obviously that won't work on a T3. I would need, what, an ego cone? Then put the drip tip on that?

Basically, I have my ol' Vamo. What should I get if I want to start dripping? All I have are T2s and T3s... and some old retired stardusts.

Or maybe it's tank time. My 510->ego adapter is essentially fused on my Vamo lol. And I'd also like to easily switch out a tank with on of my many T3 flavors. Any suggestions there? An ego threaded tank?

Sorry if this too many questions at once. No need to respond ;)
 

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Okay, here is my objective review of the Provari.

I'm not coming from a fanboi perspective in any kind of way.I began vaping in August of last year. I've had, and have, several types of devices, from straight batts to VV to VW. I have no slavish allegiance to any of them. I don't give a rat's behind who makes em or where they come from, though I do aknowledge the difference in QC between USA made products and those manufactured in, particularly, China.

Here's my take then. The Provari is well-made. No question. I have no long-term experience, but it, feels, handles, and performs - so far- solidly. That, and the repution of this device, gives me a positive impression.

The Pros: Solid, exacting machining and manufacture. Excellent electronics that perform as expected. I've heard that Provaris are the gold standard of VV devices. I have no argument with that, fine. It is not nearly as big or heavy as I imagined. It has a pleasant, businesslike heft. The feel in hand is nice, finish is near flawless, and this is a blem (which I can see in the right light, a rather minor variance in the ceramic coating in one spot). With my delivery device of choice, I get a smooth, consistent vape provided I set it correctly in regards to the ohms of the atty. There is no "rattlesnake" effect that you get with some mods. I feel very confident that I get what I'm setting. Also, this is a very attractive, upscale-looking device.

The cons: There are a few, which may upset some folks. These seem to be known quantities though, so let's not get carried away. Okay, I may have ruined that pristine Provari experience by using some more advanced tech first. Yeah, I said that. Did I say BETTER tech? Nope. I said more advanced. I'm talking Variable Wattage. I'm talking multiple button ease of use. There is something to be said for "set it and forget it" VW operation. I love that. Provari does not have it. There's something to be said for pressing a button once and getting your atomizer ohms. Or your battery charge. Or switching between VV and VW. That's nice. Tell me it's not.

The provari is also not ego-threaded in its very-shallow drip well. Don't need that? Bull. I do. I have a few ego-threaded sleeves that hold my preferred Vivi Novas stable on my other devices. Without those sleeves, they are supported by only their rather sloppy 510 threads. Which will bugger up your Provari, I bet, and be VERY unstable and wobbly. Too bad they work so well otherwise. That ego connection solves that problem easily, using one of those sleeves, making a secure base for any delivery device. My Vamos are rock-solid with a Nova attached. That Nova is not going anywhere. It will twist and break off the Provari. Yes, it will. In fact, any device has only those tiny 510 threads to hold it on. Provari fails here. (In truth, Novas are the fail, but other mods are capable of mitigating that, witness the 1/3 price Vamo, or the Lavatube.)

Now, technology. I mentioned advanced tech, and I bet ProV peeps are railing. Surely Provari has better tech. Depends how you look at it. Is Chinese tech more advanced? Is Provape's tech more solid? Yes and yes.

Let's use an analogy. Provape is making the absolute best tube televisions. China has come out with some really cool flat screen HDTVs with questionable QC. Provape doubles down on those tube TVs, resting on their well-deserved laurels. China improves their Flat screens.

How many of you are still watching tube TVs? For how long? Provape better up their game, cuz I for one like the new tech. As good as theirs is - and it's terrific, from what I can see - they are gonna get run over. And soon.

Provape can dominate the market. They can hold on to their reputation as the Cadillac of Personal Vaprisors. (Wait a minute. Isn't Cadillac a bit of a dinosaur?) All they have to do is get with the program and upgrade. If they go VW, even with their clumsy one-button menu system - which is a pain in the ..., by the way - they will continue to dominate and demand their premium prices. If not...

So, do I like the Provari? Oh yes, it's a nice piece of kit. Folks had some extremely nice things, years ago. Like gaslights. We have LEDs now.
 

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I picked up a Silver Bullet Hot Spring for my Vamo. Never even gets remotely warm. I wonder if that spring issue is part of why the Vamo has a durability issue. Mine has been completely reliable. 5 stars. Love it. No need for a Provari.

I love how it remembers my variable voltage/wattage settings. Vape is always very accurate on NO2 mode.

I'd like to see the domestic manufacturing market of mods and other PV related items succeed, but, at least for me, the Vamo blows it out of the water hands down. So long as you manually work out the potential kinks...

Admittedly, I haven't purchased a Provari, so it's not like I can compare. But I'm not sure what else it could offer beyond what I already have. All I see are little limitations here and there.
 

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I picked up a Silver Bullet Hot Spring for my Vamo. Never even gets remotely warm. I wonder if that spring issue is part of why the Vamo has a durability issue. Mine has been completely reliable. 5 stars. Love it. No need for a Provari.

I love how it remembers my variable voltage/wattage settings. Vape is always very accurate on NO2 mode.

I'd like to see the domestic manufacturing market of mods and other PV related items succeed, but, at least for me, the Vamo blows it out of the water hands down. So long as you manually work out the potential kinks...

Admittedly, I haven't purchased a Provari, so it's not like I can compare. But I'm not sure what else it could offer beyond what I already have. All I see are little limitations here and there.
I am betting that durability and overall quality-wise, Provari kicks Vamo's ... quite handily. Read my review. The Vamo kicks .... in many other ways.
 

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I really loathe vaping with my Amp XL, after doing some research (keep in mind I'm a newb)...I've come to the conclusion that I need a variable voltage battery. The Amp is ~4.17 volts and the Nebula (that I love) is ~3.14. I'm not a fan of the harsh throat hits, and the slightly "hotter" taste. Perhaps I will be able to enjoy Heather's liquids a little better now!
 

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I really loathe vaping with my Amp XL, after doing some research (keep in mind I'm a newb)...I've come to the conclusion that I need a variable voltage battery. The Amp is ~4.17 volts and the Nebula (that I love) is ~3.14. I'm not a fan of the harsh throat hits, and the slightly "hotter" taste. Perhaps I will be able to enjoy Heather's liquids a little better now!

We should meet up on a day I go pick up juices from HHV. Haven't done so yet... been waiting for them to move into their new facility. I can show you The Wave of The Vamo. Variable voltage is the way to go. I tend to use it over the variable wattage option counterpart. Variable wattage, for me anyway, works much better for heat. 100%VG Fireball on 10 watts AWESOME! If you're just wanting to relax and enjoy a nice flavor simply for the flavor, a moderate voltage is the way to go (imo).

At least for clearos. I might think differently using something else. Time will tell on that one.
 

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That is a damn good idea.

I'll look into trying the cotton. However, I haven't advanced into the rebuilding stage yet. lol still very green.

Also, I'm starting to get tired of the clearo world I've stuck myself in exclusively. Time and time again, I've heard dripping is the way to go, hands down. I mean, I don't even know what I need for that. I know I'd need a dripper tip, but obviously that won't work on a T3. I would need, what, an ego cone? Then put the drip tip on that?

Basically, I have my ol' Vamo. What should I get if I want to start dripping? All I have are T2s and T3s... and some old retired stardusts.

Or maybe it's tank time. My 510->ego adapter is essentially fused on my Vamo lol. And I'd also like to easily switch out a tank with on of my many T3 flavors. Any suggestions there? An ego threaded tank?

Sorry if this too many questions at once. No need to respond ;)

Right away I would recommend the Phoenix Bully dripper RBA from GotVapes. Easy to rebuild. Great vape. Holds about 15 drops of juice, and only about 10 bucks. I'll give more info tomorrow. Bed time.:)

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