Let's Talk Hardware

[retic1959]

The Rose is on my wish list. But I have to stay away from Qorax's threads. I spent too much time today on the Erlkonigan thread, and now I'm fighting wanting one. What build did you settle on for your Rose? I just ordered another Veritas to go with all those new flavors, and some 26 ga Kanthal to experiment with.

I just dropped a 26ga .8 single in it but the flavor is not as intense as the .4 build , I'm gonna lay another .8 coil in alongside to give me duals at .4 ohms and we'll see how that goes but right now I'm favoring the 24ga Gplat .4 single I had in it , avoiding the Elf Queen is no problem for me but that Gus Estia is another story , native triple coil with independent airflow for each coil , AFC and JFC , oh the possibilities there .

 

[Bronze]

The Rose is on my wish list. But I have to stay away from Qorax's threads. I spent too much time today on the Erlkonigan thread, and now I'm fighting wanting one.

What build did you settle on for your Rose? I just ordered another Veritas to go with all those new flavors, and some 26 ga Kanthal to experiment with.

And Q likes the expensive stuff.

 

[Chakris]

I'm really fighting the urge to go look at all those shiny things y'all are talking about. I did take a look at Papaw's VV Grand's because I knew I was safe there (can't get a new one anymore). I closed the window as soon as they started talking about other stuff.

It's bad enough reading about shiny stuff here. All the talk about ZNA's a while back talked me outta waiting for the new SVD. BTW - on 11-10-2014, Singapore post's tracking says, "Despatched to overseas (Country code: TH)" So I guess I'll be checking that out in a few days.

In other news, BK's Rum extract is simmering in the Magma with a 1.1ohm dual coil atop the provari. Didn't think it'd fire at that resistance, but as long as I keep it at 4.2 or lower it fires. At 16W, it's a mighty fine vape. Good job BK!

Oops, the Provari is making a liar outta me - it just threw up an E2 on the display. That was after the button started flashing low bat, though. Anyway, it's PanMag time.

 

[Chakris]

I have one more delivery coming in after that from NET.com and I'll be set till the end of the year, I think.

 

[LAwaters]

And Q likes the expensive stuff.

Clearly! Those gorgeous pics don't help with resisting, nor does the glowing language in the Q descriptions.

I am content. I. Am.

 

[Bronze]

Clearly! Those gorgeous pics don't help with resisting, nor does the glowing language in the Q descriptions.

I am content. I. Am.

Q is a forensics guy. E-Cigs is a major hobby for him. He loves it.

 

[LAwaters]

I just dropped a 26ga .8 single in it but the flavor is not as intense as the .4 build , I'm gonna lay another .8 coil in alongside to give me duals at .4 ohms and we'll see how that goes but right now I'm favoring the 24ga Gplat .4 single I had in it , avoiding the Elf Queen is no problem for me but that Gus Estia is another story , native triple coil with independent airflow for each coil , AFC and JFC , oh the possibilities there .

I had to do some reading and watching on YouTube to know what Gplat was. Interesting. With the gold vs. blue varieties, it's like guitar strings. The way that guitar players get into different brands and premium vs. regular within the brands, and the relative performance of each. Gplat being soft but less springy looks a lot easier to work with.

But triple coils?! Good thing you have a good friend to help keep you supplied in juice! Duals drink juice at an alarming rate. The flavor is worth it, but it's more of a now and then thing for me these days.

 

[Dusty_D]

I'm still not sold on duals. Triples are out of the question for me. I did look at the Estia a couple months ago when my locals were talking about it, but decided I didn't need it.

 

[Bronze]

I'm still not sold on duals. Triples are out of the question for me. I did look at the Estia a couple months ago when my locals were talking about it, but decided I didn't need it.

Dust, I think you're closer to my style of vaping than retic's or the people who like the high power, low resistance vapes. It's just a simple preference. I've done duals on a number of devices and it doesn't add anything to my experience in the way I like to vape (cooler). I always end up with single coil builds.

 

[LAwaters]

My experiments have been about the flavor first, which we all know varies with the build and the settings. Duals are certainly warmer, and the vapor is dense and moist. The craving it keeps away for me is for the lung hit, even more than throat hit. Yes, just a preference.

Now I'm trying to find a way to get that experience without chewing through batteries and juice.

 

[Bronze]

My experiments have been about the flavor first, which we all know varies with the build and the settings. Duals are certainly warmer, and the vapor is dense and moist. The craving it keeps away for me is for the lung hit, even more than throat hit. Yes, just a preference.

Now I'm trying to find a way to get that experience without chewing through batteries and juice.

Yeah, I think flavor is a primary factor for most people. And of course flavor is interpreted so differently from person to person. Things like throat hit, vapor production, and warmth can be measured and compared. But flavor can't. And setups can affect flavor quite dramatically. It's certainly worth people to experiment to see what they like and with the new gear we have there are more and more options. It's actually quite mind boggling. Wasn't but a few years ago the only thing you could adjust was the resistance of your atty. And even then, it was a small range.

 

[LAwaters]

Yeah, I think flavor is a primary factor for most people. And of course flavor is interpreted so differently from person to person. Things like throat hit, vapor production, and warmth can be measured and compared. But flavor can't. And setups can affect flavor quite dramatically. It's certainly worth people to experiment to see what they like and with the new gear we have there are more and more options. It's actually quite mind boggling. Wasn't but a few years ago the only thing you could adjust was the resistance of your atty. And even then, it was a small range.

It's a good time to be vaping, for sure. It's hard to believe I actually enjoyed smoking considering the flavor of that.

 

[retic1959]

I'm still not sold on duals. Triples are out of the question for me. I did look at the Estia a couple months ago when my locals were talking about it, but decided I didn't need it.

I don't need an Estia , I WANT one !

 

[Dusty_D]

I don't need an Estia , I WANT one !

For me personally, WANT = NEED!

I haven't NEEDED anything for a couple years atleast.

 

[retic1959]

I had to do some reading and watching on YouTube to know what Gplat was. Interesting. With the gold vs. blue varieties, it's like guitar strings. The way that guitar players get into different brands and premium vs. regular within the brands, and the relative performance of each. Gplat being soft but less springy looks a lot easier to work with. But triple coils?! Good thing you have a good friend to help keep you supplied in juice! Duals drink juice at an alarming rate. The flavor is worth it, but it's more of a now and then thing for me these days.

Gplat is a scam , I'm not saying it doesn't work as advertised but secret formula my azz ! Someone brought it to a metallurgist for analysis and it turns out Gplat is 316L stainless steel wire , Amazon sells 50ft for $5 . It is a lot easier to work with than Kanthal of the same gauge and a lot less resistance as well , it heats up fast , 24ga Gplat heats as fast as 30ga Kanthal , it has it's uses but no need to spend a fortune on it .

 

[PapawBrett]

As I vape down the last ml or so of Shadow in this HCigar KFL Lite + v2, I want to thank a certain gracious young lady for offering me the opportunity to experience a ProVari setup first hand. It is a sturdy and impressive little device for sure. I think I am more impressed with the ProVari than the KFL, but if I ever choose this setup long-term I am sure I could adapt to the KFL.

Thanks, Bridget. Sending a PM your way...


EDIT: Just looked at the return address. It's Bridget, not Bridgette. Duh-huh

 

[rdsok]

My experiments have been about the flavor first, which we all know varies with the build and the settings. Duals are certainly warmer, and the vapor is dense and moist. The craving it keeps away for me is for the lung hit, even more than throat hit. Yes, just a preference.

Now I'm trying to find a way to get that experience without chewing through batteries and juice.

It's actually illogical ( in a technical sense ) to go dual coil and expect to save batteries or juice..

Using dual coils halves the resistance... decreasing resistance in turn increases the amperage load at a given voltage which decreases the battery life

Using dual coils also increases the surface area... an increase of surface area means you increasing the area that you are vaporizing juice from...

I'd like to say that increasing the surface area also increase the flavor making it more saturated... but that is only true at certain wattage ( heat ) settings since higher wattage in some cases can decrease flavor also even when there is more vapor being produced... so this attribute relies on other factors making it not something you can say for certain one way or the other without taking those other factors into account... in short, I don't believe its it isn't something we ( at this point ) can estimate or calculate like the other two previously mentioned attributes

 

[LAwaters]

It's actually illogical ( in a technical sense ) to go dual coil and expect to save batteries or juice..

Using dual coils halves the resistance... decreasing resistance in turn increases the amperage load at a given voltage which decreases the battery life

Using dual coils also increases the surface area... an increase of surface area means you increasing the area that you are vaporizing juice from...

I'd like to say that increasing the surface area also increase the flavor making it more saturated... but that is only true at certain wattage ( heat ) settings since higher wattage in some cases can decrease flavor also even when there is more vapor being produced... so this attribute relies on other factors making it not something you can say for certain one way or the other without taking those other factors into account... in short, I don't believe its it isn't something we ( at this point ) can estimate or calculate like the other two previously mentioned attributes

I know - hence the smiley face! I find that the Veritas is close with a single coil to the flavor and moist vape feel of the Magma's with dual coils. Now I'm trying different gauges of wire to see if they get it even closer. I like not using as much juice and battery life with the single coil. But as an occasional treat, duals are still awesome, at least in the Magma.

 

[Iowa Gal]

Dripper question... I have an IgoW that I want to set up as dual coil. My goal would be to come in around 1.0ohm (I think). Do I understand correctly that I want to build two coils at 2.0ohm to get there? I probably won't have time to mess with it until the weekend...but just checking.

 

[Bronze]

Dripper question... I have an IgoW that I want to set up as dual coil. My goal would be to come in around 1.0ohm (I think). Do I understand correctly that I want to build two coils at 2.0ohm to get there? I probably won't have time to mess with it until the weekend...but just checking.

That would be correct. Build what you would think is a single 2.0ohm coil and double the coils. Your resistance would be 1.0.