Literally about to give up vaping

[ruff]

Finally made it to the end of this thread and i feel for ya on the problems you've experienced so far, there will be more along the way but with this forum and all the helpful people it will get easier to overcome, that being said i have a couple of answers for you i think lol.

you asked about the juices and them tasting differently as far as chemical/alcohol/plastic tastes some vendors use different means of diluting liquids and flavors, I've seen some people use alcohol's, distilled water, and just plain pg or vg, some flavors can give off different flavor notes (floral, candyish, menthol) among others, some juices may contain sweeteners and I'm unaware of what kind of taste that would give off because i don't think I've had any in mine (i mostly diy).

when i first started out i had the 510 slim batteries that resembled a cigarette and they worked for a while with lr single coils quite well for me but then i realized i was rotating batteries constantly so i looked for a bigger battery solution which led me to a vv boxmod that i put through hell and i dont know how many battery rotations with a Dual Coil Carto tank for the delivery system also running 1.5 ohm dual coil cartos with 3 holes punched. i now use a "monster mesh" (DID style Rebuildable genesis tank) on a VMAX which will last me 1 to 1 1/2 days on a single charge.

as many others have stated juice is a preference as far as what works for you, i love bobas bounty from Alien Visions (100% vg juice) and it worked quite well in my dct with 3 holes punched, ive had a few of the high caliber liquids you speak of and i ordered them from Altsmoke there were a couple that were alright as far as flavor for me but i found other vendors with better tasting juices that i like, recently ive tried halo's tribecca and midnight apple and they were both great, also pyramid fusion from Gotvapes is one of my new favorites along with Backwoods Brew's 555, i still dabble in the DIY but not near as much since ive found these vendors and im sure i will find many more along the way.

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

1st I'd like to ask.... are your nic levels what they would have been had you been still smoking? I ask because a couple of times mine weren't. 1st time was day #1 we bought 18mg and 0mg and did 1/2 & 1/2 and I didn't realize until I was all jumpy and irritable that we were really only getting 9mg's. The second time was I didn't realize my atomizer needed replacing, for 2 days I was getting very little vapor and hubs fixed it for me and I felt like that person who hadn't had a smoke for like 6 hours getting that first hit. I actually flooded his ego-c from hitting it too hard and too fast over and over but damn if I didn't feel better in no time. As a matter of fact I now only use my ego mini when the battery is dead on the ego-c he fixed up for me with his spare parts. He even told me that day before we realized what was going on that I needed to stop being such a ...... lol I feel bad, I knew I was antsy, just didn't realize HOW antsy!

Now on to my thoughts on what I'd like to see on the forum. I used to work at the PO, we had an acronym for every piece of machinery in the place. Customer calls and says I am expecting a package and DC says it arrived at unit. I say ok, let me check. I go look in an APC, look in a BMC, look at the scan area, look in a hamper, look on a steel or truck, look in carrier station. If I go back to customer and tell him/her all the places I looked they are going to look at me just like most of us newbies look at the answers to some of our questions.

I am also a photographer and take my nephew out with me sometimes. He asks a question and I forget sometimes that I am dealing with someone who doesn't understand the difference between aperture and shutter speed, DOF, bokeh, and forget about explaining the inverse square law. If I start trying to explain any of those things in technical terms he looks at me like I grew 2 heads. Because he is new to that world.

Remember this is all new to us. I see things like I have this mod with this doohicky on top, and we don't understand what a mod or a doohicky is. We don't know that in order to have 1 thing there are other things you need as well. Case in point... I just ordered a Zmax during their Vets day sale. I had absolutely no clue what to get with it and honestly all I can do is HOPE I ordered the right stuff because this is a whole new world for us!! It's not like deciding between a marlboro or a winston, and some of us can't afford to keep trying new things to get it right.

I second guess every single purchase because I have no clue what I need. So I completely understand his frustration. Sometimes when I want to give up on things in life it isn't really that I want to give up on that thing, I just want to give up on frustration. Like hey just 1 day where everything is good would be a step in the right direction and give me hope.

 

[tj99959]

Been there, done that... totally not true.

Seriously, there are TWO 'reliable' and 'consistently' dependable systems that gives me the same results as 'dripping' off a 510 atty without the hassle of having to actually 'do' that... it took me a couple years to 'find' them, but I did.

I have 510 atties that I actually 'drip' from time to time to compare to this system.... and hands down, the non-drip system produces 'better flavor' vapor and throat hit.... hands down. For real!

That doesn't surprise me a bit. While a normal 510 Atty is a good choice to learn how to drip with, it is, by far, the least efficient atty to drip with.

 

[Robino1]

Taste is an elusive and a subjective thing. Think about it. We are getting flavor from wet AIR. We are not chewing something that is filling your mouth with a tangible food that gives your senses the texture, the wetness the flavor as you bite down on something. The flavor in the juices are trying to trick your mind into remembering those feelings of that certain food it is trying to mimic. When the taste buds go wonky, they can no longer make the mind remember what it is supposed to remember about that flavor since the taste buds can no longer send the flavor signal to the brain. It is just WET AIR at that point.

There have been many discussions about what to do when that happens all over this forum. There is NO stock answer that works for everyone. Plenty of suggestions where some worked for some people but not for others. For some it is time that heals. For others it is more water. Yet for others it is lime juice or something that zings the taste buds back into shape. And for some other people it is simply smelling something strong that whips those pesky buds into shape.

Yes changing up different juices throughout the day minimizes the chances of the old taste buds from going south, but it is not 100%.

I don't know if you know about steeping. Steeping is where when you get your fresh juices in the mail you need to get the alcohol that was used in the making out of that juice. It also lets the flavors meld together to create what the vendor is trying to make the juice taste like.

To steep properly:
Take cap and nipple off the bottle
Shake well (till tiny bubbles are noticeable)
Leave caps off for 48 hours shaking repeatedly throught the day. ( this allows all of the alcohol to come to the surface to evaporate out)
. What that does is to concentrate the flavors more because the extra liquid is now leaving.
After the 48 hour cap off, put the nipple and cap back on. Put it away out of direct sunlight. Shake whenever you think about it for 1 - 2 weeks. This gives the juice time to mature into the flavor it is meant to be.

You can try it after a week. If you still get that plasticky, chemical taste. Put it away for another week. Some juices need more time. The more complex the juice, the longer it needs to steep to get all the flavorings to meld. I have found some juices that need three weeks to get to that magical stage. If after at least three weeks steeping and I still don't like it, I'm never going to like it and write it off as a do not reorder juice. BUT, I may keep it because my taste buds may change a few months down the road. Them damn buds again!

I hope this helps a little on the flavor issues you may be having with some of your juices. I hope that I was able to answer some of the "why does" questions you probably going to have.

Good luck.

 

[mrwilliams2]

OP, I have a few unopened goodies that I picked up and didn't care for while I was trying to find my way to what I liked. If you'll PM me your name and address (If that is allowed here. If not, let me know and I'll remove this), I'll be happy to send them to you free of charge. I'll even cover shipping! I know I have some LR Phoenix Top and Bottom coil clearamizers that just weren't for me, but maybe you'll like them. I don't have any unused blunt tip syringes though, so you'll need one to fill them. I also have some juice that I know I'll never vape. You may like them too!

 

[Apathetic Cardigan]

I forgot to make one suggestion that is going to sound totally weird. If you aren't getting flavor (like me), work on your vape issue first. Buy a bag of jolly rancher hard candy, cinnamon, whatever flavor it is you want. Suck on a piece of candy while you vape. It is a temporary fix BUT at least you will feel like you are getting flavor with your vape. I am doing this waiting on my taste buds to "wake up". It appeases me some during the day.

That is a way good idea. Thanks.

 

[Cookster]

Also, please don't take this as an insult to your intelligence, sometimes we forget the simplest things, but are you shaking the crap out of your juice? It contains different levels of viscosity, and separation can occur, leaving you with blah juice at the end.

Just a thought...

 

[fourthrok]

In addition to the other suggestions here for revitalizing your taste buds, I've heard that if you stick your nose into an open can of fresh coffee grounds and inhale the smell (not the grounds themselves!) deeply several times that it can clear things up so you buds work better again. I'm not positive it works, but I've tried it a couple of times. Didn't hurt!

With me, the taste of my vape is effected by an array of things. Stress, being tired, hungry or dehydrated, pain...all sorts of things. Sometimes just making a concentrated effort to drink a whole glass of water and nibble a few snack crackers helps. Sometimes not much is going to help but a nap (but that isn't practical all the time). The candy trick can help sometimes. Unless you have a tooth causing you pain already. I love the juice I make. I may be the only one in the world that would like it..but it's my recipe and suits me to perfection. But even it can get tasting less than stellar if other factors are working on me to stress me out physically or mentally. It happens.

One time I ate some broiled chicken with highly seasoned boiled potatoes and other sides...was eating alone so I was vaping while I was eating. Later I noticed that my vape was tasting WEIRD. I was using the same EMSCC I'd been using at dinner. I went to bed and when I got up the juice was still tasting WEIRD. Not good. Not the juice I make! What's up? I was getting pretty frustrated and worried when a light dawned on me. I pulled off the drip tip I'd been using since dinner the previous night and put on a new one. Presto. Juice was back to it's usual delicious self. Go figure.

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

Wow, that is extremely nice and generous of you!! Is there a place on the forum that we can share our dislikes with those who might like them? Better than totally wasting the stuff! I have a grape that the hubs and I both tried and neither of us like it. I might have a home for the grape today but I am sure I will have others along the way that I dislike.

OP, I have a few unopened goodies that I picked up and didn't care for while I was trying to find my way to what I liked. If you'll PM me your name and address (If that is allowed here. If not, let me know and I'll remove this), I'll be happy to send them to you free of charge. I'll even cover shipping! I know I have some LR Phoenix Top and Bottom coil clearamizers that just weren't for me, but maybe you'll like them. I don't have any unused blunt tip syringes though, so you'll need one to fill them. I also have some juice that I know I'll never vape. You may like them too!

 

[Boxster]

Wow, that is extremely nice and generous of you!! Is there a place on the forum that we can share our dislikes with those who might like them? Better than totally wasting the stuff! I have a grape that the hubs and I both tried and neither of us like it. I might have a home for the grape today but I am sure I will have others along the way that I dislike.

Pay it forward Pay It Forward - PIF

 

[mrwilliams2]

Pay it forward Pay It Forward - PIF

I figured there was a section for this and I've even searched the forum over a couple of time looking, but never found it. Thanks for posting!

 

[blondeambition3]

That doesn't surprise me a bit. While a normal 510 Atty is a good choice to learn how to drip with, it is, by far, the least efficient atty to drip with.

Not trying to go , but what are the 'most efficient' atties to drip with?

 

[Marvin & Sennie]

That's awesome!!!!

Pay it forward Pay It Forward - PIF

 

[Rar]

Remember this is all new to us. I see things like I have this mod with this doohicky on top, and we don't understand what a mod or a doohicky is. We don't know that in order to have 1 thing there are other things you need as well. Case in point... I just ordered a Zmax during their Vets day sale. I had absolutely no clue what to get with it and honestly all I can do is HOPE I ordered the right stuff because this is a whole new world for us!! It's not like deciding between a marlboro or a winston, and some of us can't afford to keep trying new things to get it right.

+1 This is SO TRUE. I have been vaping for 18 months. There is so much new equipment that has come out in these months which I'm anxious to try. I have no clue what to get with some of this stuff and/or even if it's suitable for my devices.

 

[tartanraven]

Vaping in a new product wonderlannnnnnnnnd

 

[blondeambition3]

I think some people are making vaping waaaaaaaaaay more complicated that it needs to be. Just my

I'm going to be doing some YouTube Vids (SOON!) that will 'break it all down' for everyone.

As much as SOME People would like to keep things complicated, (as it behooves them financially to do so ), I'm going to UN COMPLICATE things once and for all!

Get the Popcorn ready folks

 

[tartanraven]

I think some people are making vaping waaaaaaaaaay more complicated that it needs to be. Just my

I'm going to be doing some YouTube Vids (SOON!) that will 'break it all down' for everyone.

As much as SOME People would like to keep things complicated, (as it behooves them financially to do so ), I'm going to UN COMPLICATE things once and for all!

Get the Popcorn ready folks

+1

 

[pocket_lintvap0r1]

I wished more people had experienced vapors around so they could learn about vari volt, different ohm carts, different aty, tank cart combos and good juice. In this business there's too many wolves in sheeps clothing waiting to get your money. There are fine products out there that are way more satisfying that real cigs though, just have to find/try and buy them for youselfs, thats the part that sux.

 

[tartanraven]

I wished more people had experienced vapors around so they could learn about vari volt, different ohm carts, different aty, tank cart combos and good juice. In this business there's too many wolves in sheeps clothing waiting to get your money. There are fine products out there that are way more satisfying that real cigs though, just have to find/try and buy them for youselfs, thats the part that sux.

Pardon the stereotype, but being prone to tinkering (my Lass shakes her head) I like the concept of trying new kit and modding.

 

[jcarabelos]

This thread is interesting to read now that I'm several years into my vaping experience. I remember when I first started, and I had no idea what any of the technical lingo meant, and I felt that I would never find the solution that worked for me. I went back and forth between analogues and ecigs for over a year. I agree with the notion that there is quite the learning curve, and it isn't necessarily easy to get the information you want if you're new to the whole scene. Some in-depth start-up tutorials would likely be beneficial. That being said, most -- if not all -- of the people on this forum started somewhere similar. It all comes down to personal drive.

I didn't read all of the posts here, Apathetic, but I would start by saying you shouldn't be going to that awful shop for advice. That was how I started, too. Went to local Colorado E-Smokes stores or mall kiosks for Smoking Everywhere and tried to gain insight. Not only do they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, they all sell the worst possible crap when it comes to this technology. Stick with the online vendors - they have quality, and it IS significantly cheaper (I smoked less than a half a pack a day, and I'm saving loads).