Well the whole exchange was mainly just that he was utterly mystified that I have no use for TC vaping with titanium -- I couldn't taste the juice well at all with it, and after a single day, there was so much gunk that it didn't vape at all anymore, so it would mean a brand new coil everyday from a material that costs more than twice what kanthal costs -- and my kanthal coils last *months*. So it's very clearly not for me at all. When he said what his normal kanthal builds were like, and the wattage he runs them at, I can see why he likes TC, but at 9w? Not necessary at all, and not even desirable. I should have started telling him about the awesome tight draw of the Achilles, and INSISTED that he would prefer it, at 9w, over everything else just as I do.
Andria
I can relate. I can't count how many times I've had conversations like that. I can put on their shoes enough to empathize that it's different for everyone and throat hit, whatever's is important to them even though I hate it for me. But the reverse? Noooooo. Please, don't expect me to believe you are getting any flavor from max vg mixed with as much air as possible and then vaping in a style that misses all the taste receptors. They can taste .... and I'm going to waste money on their juice and hardware suggestions? The worst part is they are not merely explaining, they are insisting! Unless I join them, I am wrong.
I run into this with rebuilders too. Every thread turns into a thread about coils even if it's device oriented. I find that as exciting as cleaning toilets. I'm not afraid to do it, I'm procrastinating until I have to. I've got a stash here. I've got a little stash of cartos and tanks too for CYA. But right now I figure we are in the golden age of vaping and I want to enjoy the convenience of commercial coils as long as I can. I want t o push manufacturers to the max of development. I don't expect anyone else to share my opinion so why do I feel I have to defend mine? Why does every thread turn into coils - not just a few posts but pages and pages until the original topic is lost? I abandon most threads anymore. Sorry.
I think what got me was I got a friend started vaping. Gave her gear and wanted to hook her up with a b&m. Poor kid, she was overwhelmed with egos and evods, and I knew I had to get her into flavors fast. We went to two stores, very nice and sincerely helpful people but all they had were mechs at the time and rebuildables. They had tons of juices and none of them had any intense flavors that recent smokers need. Nothing over 12mg. Average was $20/30ml. Ouch. I had given her some leftover stuff and she played with some of my stash so she was expecting flavor. Watching them try and get her into battery safety and coiling was surreal. We brought isticks and nautluses with us and they didn't have that stuff. Nope, one guy went to the back room and brought out an old 650 ego and ce4 which he gave to her. This is how people are supposed to quit now?
I still have a few old disposable baugway ce4's for a mech I have. I threw that together and the flavor was intense. I wish they still made those. I think it's vital to vaping's survival that we never completely loose sight of why we vape.
IMO cloud chasing has it's place, but it's more like a sport than THR. A lot of our equipment development is derived from those that push it to the next level. They are the vocal enthusiasts that spend mega money, that manufacturers here. Just like car racing or dog breeding or any other industry. That should be reflected in equipment like a 200w mod sold as pro or exhibition level. It's not mom and pop stuff, I question if TC is ready for main stream.
Anyway, goodnight all. [emoji99]
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