Little itty bitty mods under $100.

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But what about regulated, shorty tube mods? Am I the only one who still prefers the tube form factor? I can't believe they haven't miniaturized 20-30W dna or Yihi circuitry so that regulated tube mods don't have to be lightsabers.

I prefer the tube over the box, but the length is over the specs. :(
Wish there were some more regulated 14500/14650 mods around, but not many that I have found.


I have to admit that I also appreciate a quality tube mod. I keep my brass Nemesis (clone) with a SMOK 15W kick around, mostly for my KFL+v2. At 95mm-ish without the atty, it's bigger than I want to carry out and about.

We can always opt for a ProVari P3. In 18350/500 mode it's a nice size. At $200, it ain't cheap. It's 20W max. And battery life is going to be an issue. But it is a reliable device, providing many years of service.

At this point in vaping, having our cake and eating it too is possible with some compromises. iStick 30W / Cloupor Mini-type devices seem to have been the best of the trade-offs for me. Everyone has to determine their own preferences in trade-offs and choose a device that comes closest.

After vaping on a buddy's SXmini for a weekend, I'm waiting for the new M Class to land. I may just pay the $200 and be done with mod-shopping for a while. In the last 9 months, I have about $250 in regulated mods. I can justify another $200 for a mod that will last me a couple of years or longer.

The only remaining issue for me is battery life. A good 18650 barely gets me through a light to moderate day of vaping at 15-20W. I haven't purchased any new attys since Thanksgiving. If I move to new clearo/RTA combo tanks that require 20-30W+ for a good experience, my battery requirements will change too.

Vaping, along with other industries, is waiting for new battery form-factors and chemistries for major advances. Until this happens, I don't expect significant market changes/advancements like we've experienced the past few months with the mini box mods. I'll know we've reached practical perfection when I can purchase a device the size of an analog 100 with the battery and juice capacity to last me an entire day of excellent vaping. One can dream, right?

I hope everyone is having a fantabulous weekend! I'm welcoming Spring with open arms...:2cool:
 

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In the early 1960's, a consortium led by Bill Lear (of Lear Jet) set out to create The Greatest Practical Joke Man Has Ever Known.

The 8-track player they came up with proved to be a resounding success. These things would:
a. Change tracks in the middle of a song -
b. Could not be fast-forwarded or reversed -
c. The tapes ad an average lifespan of approximately 48 seconds, after which they would slow down and start to sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon.

And that's not all. Basically, they were simply terrible.

This success greatly angered the nation of China. China was bigger, stronger, older & wiser, yet they were not the ones to come up with this amazing trick on humanity. Since that day they have been focused on an even better practical joke. They've gone to great lengths, and dedicated a tremendous amount of resource, into finally upstaging the hallowed 8-track tapes & players.

Well, the king is finally dead (and love live the king!).

Ladies & gentlemen, I give you The Smowell. I don't even know where to start. Let's see....

OK - the battery compartment. The Allen screws are so tiny that one might require a microscope to remove and replace them. Plus, they don't even sit straight in! You've got to find the correct angle, then HOPE to get them in securely.

Build quality. Oh boy. I firmly believe that if I squeezed hard enough, in one hand, I can crush this thing. It's build like an old, cheap soda can from 1972 ("Tab" comes to mind).

The buttons rattle like a group of kindergarten kids with symbols.

It's a 25 dollar mod that I wouldn't pay 25 cents for (too late now, Bucko!). I'm sorry but the thing just plain bites.

How does it vape, you ask? HOW THE HECK WOULD I KNOW??? I couldn't even get the dang batteries inside.

Kat had originally nicknamed them, "Welly" because she wrestled with the enunciation of the idiotic name "Smowell". I agree, it's a tough-talk. I have now officially changed "Welly" to "Smelly".

And, before I put them up in the classies as a buy one, get one free ("Smelly BOGO Sale, IF YOU DARE!"), I must tip my cap to China. They won.

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Worse than 8-Track? For those of us over 40, that says a lot. I'd feel bad PIFing them let alone selling them. :?:
 

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In the early 1960's, a consortium led by Bill Lear (of Lear Jet) set out to create The Greatest Practical Joke Man Has Ever Known.

The 8-track player they came up with proved to be a resounding success. These things would:
a. Change tracks in the middle of a song -
b. Could not be fast-forwarded or reversed -
c. The tapes ad an average lifespan of approximately 48 seconds, after which they would slow down and start to sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon.

And that's not all. Basically, they were simply terrible.

Huh, you seem to have a higher opinion of 8-track than I do... :laugh:

And while it's possible with many regulated mods to run in shortie mode, with an 18500/350, you'll not get the mAh ratings of the custom fit lipos. Or even the ones on the sheet that use 18650s - if you can get them installed :facepalm:

As mentioned, in the short config, may still be taller than the limit for this thread.
 

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Worse than 8-Track? For those of us over 40, that says a lot. I'd feel bad PIFing them let alone selling them. :?:
I can only promise the most honest ad you will ever see. If it sells, it will be (as Kat projected) some up for the challenge and possibly someone who wants to add a good chip or something.

You modders... (smh & lol).

And if it doesn't, well, I'll strongly consider The Great Crush.
 

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And DavidOck, I think you misinterpreted my reference to it being a "resounding success." Do not separate that from the original point (practical joke).

Nah, I was pretty sure that was sarcasm.

But you did find the only way you could rewind:

"The 8-track player they came up with proved to be a resounding success. These things would:
a. Change tracks in the middle of a song -
b. Could not be fast-forwarded or reversed -
c. The tapes ad an average lifespan of approximately 48 seconds, after which they would slow down and start to sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon."

You found the undocumented bug, er, feature, for reverse - step a... A sharp whack on the dashboard would change back to the previous track, rewound for as long as you wait to pound the dash in frustration.
 

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Nah, I was pretty sure that was sarcasm.

But you did find the only way you could rewind:

"The 8-track player they came up with proved to be a resounding success. These things would:
a. Change tracks in the middle of a song -
b. Could not be fast-forwarded or reversed -
c. The tapes ad an average lifespan of approximately 48 seconds, after which they would slow down and start to sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon."

You found the undocumented bug, er, feature, for reverse - step a... A sharp whack on the dashboard would change back to the previous track, rewound for as long as you wait to pound the dash in frustration.
Omigawd I had forgotten ALL ABOUT THAT!

Thanks (all) for indulging me, and good night. [emoji3]
 

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I was considering getting a Smelly Welly when I instead decided to be the Guinea pig for the Althea Smart-30. Glad I made the decision I did! Although the batteries are not replaceable, it is a solid little mod that lasted me 3 days (not exclusive use) before I needed to charge it. Build quality appears to be on par with the iSticks.

Still looking for an itty bitty with replaceable batteries. So far looks like the Clouper may win bit I am in no rush. I will wait to see what China comes out with after their big convention coming up.
 

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Just ordered the "authentic" Clouper Mini 30 from FT, to round out an order of spare parts, and the replaceable battery option was important to me.

So maybe a review in 6 or 8 weeks :glare:

(Actually, my previous experiences with FT have been reasonable shipping times from China and customs. Not a quick as domestic, of course...)
 

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I beg to differ. I recently (couple weeks ago) got a Cloupor mini and a Smelly. Both are working excellently. No issues with either of them. Yes, the screws on the smelly are very small and either they or the supplied allen key are out of spec. I found an allen key which fits nicely and also discovered that a torx number 6 works as well. Some idiot on the production line used thread locker (the soft or temporary kind) on the threads which made the first battery install a pain in the ... No problems with them after the first time. Fit and finish is excellent considering the price. No rattles. The fire button is easy to feel/find with my thumb and has a very nice feel to it and is clicky enough but not too loud. The unit feels plenty substantial to me. I have no worries about mechanical damage. All that being said, the cloupor is the better unit and I won't be buying any more smellies. I just wanted to add a different opinion of the device to the thread.

8 tracks - yes the tapes wore out after awhile. No rewind was a minor annoyance for me. They beat the holy hel out of cassettes for sound quality with a working cartridge. Cassettes sounded like absolute crap in comparison. It would have been difficult to listen to vinyl on my motorcycle or in my car. I was very happy with them while they were available. And no cassette, ever, could do discrete quadrophonic. You have no idea how annoyed I was that quad never caught on. It was Amazing! I still have a quad 8 track player and a few tapes but haven't fired it up since the 80s.
Have a good one everybody.
 

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I was considering getting a Smelly Welly when I instead decided to be the Guinea pig for the Althea Smart-30. Glad I made the decision I did! Although the batteries are not replaceable, it is a solid little mod that lasted me 3 days (not exclusive use) before I needed to charge it. Build quality appears to be on par with the iSticks.

Still looking for an itty bitty with replaceable batteries. So far looks like the Clouper may win bit I am in no rush. I will wait to see what China comes out with after their big convention coming up.

I considered the Cloupor Mini as well. It's "cute" but doesn't have that wonderful form that many of us love in the 'Stick, the IPV Mini, even the Smelly Welly. It may tho just be our best option for a non-fixed batt mod, at least for now.

Besides...... it's easy to bring! :laugh:

Just ordered the "authentic" Clouper Mini 30 from FT, to round out an order of spare parts, and the replaceable battery option was important to me.

So maybe a review in 6 or 8 weeks :glare:

(Actually, my previous experiences with FT have been reasonable shipping times from China and customs. Not a quick as domestic, of course...)

I have marked my calendar for your review. ;)
 

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I was considering getting a Smelly Welly when I instead decided to be the Guinea pig for the Althea Smart-30. Glad I made the decision I did! Although the batteries are not replaceable, it is a solid little mod that lasted me 3 days (not exclusive use) before I needed to charge it. Build quality appears to be on par with the iSticks.

Still looking for an itty bitty with replaceable batteries. So far looks like the Clouper may win bit I am in no rush. I will wait to see what China comes out with after their big convention coming up.

Kat can confirm that I grabbed one of my iSticks, and emitted the words, "The iStick feels like a {X}ing Provari next to this thing."

Hi all
I beg to differ. I recently (couple weeks ago) got a Cloupor mini and a Smelly. Both are working excellently. No issues with either of them. Yes, the screws on the smelly are very small and either they or the supplied allen key are out of spec. I found an allen key which fits nicely and also discovered that a torx number 6 works as well. Some idiot on the production line used thread locker (the soft or temporary kind) on the threads which made the first battery install a pain in the ... No problems with them after the first time. Fit and finish is excellent considering the price. No rattles. The fire button is easy to feel/find with my thumb and has a very nice feel to it and is clicky enough but not too loud. The unit feels plenty substantial to me. I have no worries about mechanical damage. All that being said, the cloupor is the better unit and I won't be buying any more smellies. I just wanted to add a different opinion of the device to the thread.

8 tracks - yes the tapes wore out after awhile. No rewind was a minor annoyance for me. They beat the holy hel out of cassettes for sound quality with a working cartridge. Cassettes sounded like absolute crap in comparison. It would have been difficult to listen to vinyl on my motorcycle or in my car. I was very happy with them while they were available. And no cassette, ever, could do discrete quadrophonic. You have no idea how annoyed I was that quad never caught on. It was Amazing! I still have a quad 8 track player and a few tapes but haven't fired it up since the 80s.
Have a good one everybody.

I'm genuinely happy that you view them differently. And the 8 tracks too, for that matter. It just goes to show that there's somebody out there for almost everything.

My ad, when I decide to put it up, will be unaffected by your success though (with all due respect). I think people should know my low opinion, since I'm selling it. I'll link back to my post in this thread though, so I'm kind of glad that any prospective buyers might also see yours, since it's more positive.

And I obviously have no hesitation typing this here, also for their potential viewing.

Dear potential buyers: I think edamps' view is probably much more realistic than mine. I can get pret-ty cranky when things don't go my way, so it's probably not quite as bad as I'm making it out to be.

But, in all fairness, it might be... :D

 

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Re: the Welly (love the nick). I have one and I, too, love it. Yes, the screws are a royal pain but I am a tool junkie as well as a PV addict. A 1.5mm allen head bit on a screwdriver and I was good to go after I found one of the screws in the carpet. I installed a 35 amp LG battery and will charge using the micro USB port so it was a one-tiime issue. Plan on using flat top batteries to help with getting the cover back on. This order took two weeks and I like it enough that I've ordered another.

I wanted something 18650 that is pocket friendly. I've been using vamo aluminum v5's in 18350 mode and had to change batteries too often. The Welly is about 1" shorter than the Vamo. I also wanted something at least 40 watts to fiddle with RTA building. I doubt I will sub ohm (too hot) but I can try some options.

I can't compare the Welly to high end/high watt mods because I won't spend enough to have one. $30 + or - is good for me.
 

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One of the many reasons I have to NO plans to ever use anything rebuildable. Between eyesight and dexterity, it's just not for me.

I've had plenty of mods that I needed to use screwdrivers with, but this stupid thing is ridiculous.

You want 'em? BOGO, baby!!!! ;-)

I didn't say that. We can't talk about it here. Not that I expect anyone WOULD, given my "outstanding" review (cough).

Well after your glowing review, and since what we may speak of here is severely limited, lemme juzt say this. Get a priority shipping box box, stuff them in it and stick a $10 bill in there and I will give you my address! :p

I'm broke an really need $10 :lol:
 
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edamps and BacsiBob, I am glad to hear of positive reviews for the Smelly Welly. I do hope they work out for whomever chooses to enjoy some sweet vapes on them, but they will not be in my near future. I trust DPL's take on the matter, and since we partner'd in this endeavor, if one does not have one, the other does not either. That is NOT to say that others won't enjoy them. I sincerely hope they do.

But those screws........ puleeze. No, not ever, could I be bothered with them. To me that's a vape gear part the size of a 1/2 of a flea...... lost in the carpeting? Yeah/no.

In fact, just after we ordered them, and when I realized the batt cover was screw obliged, I made a statement wondering if there might not be a way to change from the screws to magnets. Perhaps that is a pastability, but not one that's going to happen to the less tinkering types, like us.



Kat can confirm that I grabbed one of my iSticks, and emitted the words, "The iStick feels like a {X}ing Provari next to this thing."

Precise wording. I confirm. ;)


Re: the Welly (love the nick). I have one and I, too, love it. Yes, the screws are a royal pain but I am a tool junkie as well as a PV addict. A 1.5mm allen head bit on a screwdriver and I was good to go after I found one of the screws in the carpet. I installed a 35 amp LG battery and will charge using the micro USB port so it was a one-tiime issue. Plan on using flat top batteries to help with getting the cover back on. This order took two weeks and I like it enough that I've ordered another.

I wanted something 18650 that is pocket friendly. I've been using vamo aluminum v5's in 18350 mode and had to change batteries too often. The Welly is about 1" shorter than the Vamo. I also wanted something at least 40 watts to fiddle with RTA building. I doubt I will sub ohm (too hot) but I can try some options.

I can't compare the Welly to high end/high watt mods because I won't spend enough to have one. $30 + or - is good for me.

I could NOT pronounce S M O W E L L. Was it Smowell as in M O L E? As in N O E L? I was just sooooooooooo konfused, so renamed it. :p

Glad you are enjoying it!



I was thinking of sending DPLongo22 a Self Address, Pre-Paid, Priority Mail Flat Rate Box.

Ya Know, to save Him/Her 10 Bucks.

;)

LOL! I have a feeling that will not be necessary, but how kool are YOU! {{{zoiD}}}
 

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To Me, the Screws on the Smowell battery hatch are neither Here nor There.

Because I didn't buy it to as a Mod to Swap batteries In and Out of. More as a Mod like the iStick where I use the On-Board Charger.

I've had it for 3 Weeks. And I haven't taking the Battery out once. Probably won't until the Battery starts to fail.

I'm Really Liking the Shape of it. And it is Light as compared to my IPV Mini's. Yeah, the Buttons rattle. But I don't really Notice them anymore.

For the a 50W Mod, at the Price I paid for it, I'm Happy. Very Happy.

BTW - The Paint has started to Flake Off my Black IPV Mini.
 
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