lJoy/Limitless RDTA (build tutorial and first impressions)

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suprtrkr

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So the only cons are;

Lack of driptip adapter -> solved with griffin/kennedy driptip

Small 4ml+ tank.

In less than 1 hour I manage to blow away 7ml on the supreme. Refilling doesn't look as hard as refilling a for example lemo 1 tank. Just cap off and in it goes

Anyone tried to fill the tank by just dripping from the top? I guess that if it does not leak when it's wicked properly, juice would not find its way into the tank when dripping from the tip either

Either way, you guys made me all excited :)
I just tried. If you drip in the cap, it will wick down into the tank. Using the filling port is faster, by a lot. I just dripped through the chuff, but I overdid it, and it puked out the air holes. I'd recommend using the port :)
 

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I just tried. If you drip in the cap, it will wick down into the tank. Using the filling port is faster, by a lot. I just dripped through the chuff, but I overdid it, and it puked out the air holes. I'd recommend using the port :)

Expected this result already.

When the tank is empty, i guess it can be used as a dripper, but not excessively. It would fill up the tank slowly but gradually

What am I saying lol, just pop up the cap and chuck it in; done

2 weeks waiting time for delivery to go. Tough time ahead
 

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So the only cons are;

Lack of driptip adapter -> solved with griffin/kennedy driptip

Small 4ml+ tank.

In less than 1 hour I manage to blow away 7ml on the supreme. Refilling doesn't look as hard as refilling a for example lemo 1 tank. Just cap off and in it goes

Anyone tried to fill the tank by just dripping from the top? I guess that if it does not leak when it's wicked properly, juice would not find its way into the tank when dripping from the tip either

Either way, you guys made me all excited :)
You can't, it's so easy to refill tho...takes 2 secs, filling from top would take longer it it was achievable
 

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Expected this result already.

When the tank is empty, i guess it can be used as a dripper, but not excessively. It would fill up the tank slowly but gradually

What am I saying lol, just pop up the cap and chuck it in; done

2 weeks waiting time for delivery to go. Tough time ahead
2 weeks?! Ouch how is this so?!
 
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That's where I ordered mine from too cause I'm a cheapskate..... Lol
Gearbest

€17.

I've been buying things like a monkey high on crack the past few weeks. This low price was the little push I needed to go ahead. Downside is that it takes quite some time to receive

Oh well, I received a supreme less than one week ago, will play with that in the meantime
 

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I've had mine for about 2-3 weeks now, love it. My only problem has been the grub screws keep stripping (yes I'm a bit heavy handed.) Does anyone know which screws to use as a replacement?
I usually replace all of mine with cup point grub screws, preferably American manufactured. These are the ones I use in my Mutation V4s: 10 STAINLESS STEEL 2.5mm x 4mm Socket Set Screws Grub Cup Point + 1.3 Hex Key

I suspect M2.5 x .45 x 3mm is what we want, meaning those I linked above are too long. I think these will work: 10 STAINLESS STEEL 2.5mm x 3mm Socket Set Screws Grub Cup Point + 1.3 Hex Key

It's your 4 bucks, though, and I can't go bail for the thread spec as I can't, just now, lay my hands on my tiny, tiny metric thread gauge, or my spares for my Mutations. Still, the screw body calipers 2.47mm in diameter, which is consistent with M2.5 threads, and .45mm pitch is the standard in that size, and the length is dead-nut 3mm. For 4 bucks, go for it :)
 

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Ok, finally a build for tootle puffers. I ran 28ga Kanthal A1, 9 wraps on 2.5mm, for 1.8Ω. It vapes perfectly in the green between 9 and 20 watts. I ran single coil again-- this one quite a bit smaller ;) -- between the posts. Dividing the (2.5mm) wick tails into the four juice ports results in some largish gaps in the deck floor. This rig will leak juice if it's laid on it's side.

I used the insert to reduce the capacity of the chuff cap-- it's a little plastic part that pushes into the middle of the chuff, held in place with o-ring friction, that reduces the air pathway to 5.9mm, see photos-- but I found the machine will not reduce air flow down to the point where it isn't too airy for MTL. It took a while to remember how to MTL. I gave that up away back when I first found a tank-- Ye Olde Protank II-- that would (marginally) accommodate direct lung. I managed it, however, and you just can't rig the draw hard enough for a good MTL hit. The fix I came up with was to wrap a piece of clear tape and completely close the air slits (a vape band would also work, but I don't have one). The air still bypasses enough to get a MTL hit out of it. I think it's coming in between the chuff cap and the top cap wall. The bottom seal of the top cap is tight enough to be juice tight, I wouldn't think any air would be getting through. It is in this MTL regime, I think, the lack of a 510 drip tip adapter is most felt. A fine diameter tip, like a Kayfun, would tighten the draw up enough for MTL without resorting to tape.

All that said, it does work very well down in the low watt regime. Flavor is excellent, even down to tiny watts, if you can squeeze the air enough to avoid swamping the vapor and provide some resistance for MTL draw. In addition to that, for low watt direct lung folks-- small cloud for at-work use, for example-- just take the tape off and it will direct lung hit very nicely with the air completely closed in the 9-20 watt range with the 1.8Ω build I have in it. Opening the air slots very slightly-- about 2mm-- provides sufficient additional make up air at 9 watts to make it vapable for me, although I do like them more freely breathing. Opening the air slots half way and running the watts to 15 makes me less unhappy I ripped out the 316SS twists a couple days back. I can vape it like that for work, no problems. Flavor across this range remains superior to excellent. At 20 watts, the build I have in it approaches 200 mW/mm² coil surface thermal flux, and this is the upper limit of where I like to hit my juice.

Bottom line: I really don't recommend this for MTL hitters. A pity, but the draw is just too airy unless you want to put a vape band over the air slots or something. That would work. Next time I message iJoy, I will suggest (among other things I think will help) adding an additional chuff insert with a much smaller hole, in the 1.5-2mm range to tighten up the draw or, better still, a similar part to accommodate a 510 drip tip. Or both.

Here's some pics: a teeny tiny build for the TPs among us:
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Wicked, the tails divided, and placed in the ports. The coil is so small, I didn't bother to thin the tails:
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The chuff and inserts, plus the insert installed:
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Finally, a top view showing the wick gap in the ports. Yes, this one will puke juice onto the deck if laid over, and it will leak out the air slots or drip tip:
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I usually replace all of mine with cup point grub screws, preferably American manufactured. These are the ones I use in my Mutation V4s: 10 STAINLESS STEEL 2.5mm x 4mm Socket Set Screws Grub Cup Point + 1.3 Hex Key

I suspect M2.5 x .45 x 3mm is what we want, meaning those I linked above are too long. I think these will work: 10 STAINLESS STEEL 2.5mm x 3mm Socket Set Screws Grub Cup Point + 1.3 Hex Key

It's your 4 bucks, though, and I can't go bail for the thread spec as I can't, just now, lay my hands on my tiny, tiny metric thread gauge, or my spares for my Mutations. Still, the screw body calipers 2.47mm in diameter, which is consistent with M2.5 threads, and .45mm pitch is the standard in that size, and the length is dead-nut 3mm. For 4 bucks, go for it :)
McMaster-Carr have grubs in US. I've been going there. A.. T handle allen wrench(hardened steel) would be killer for grubs. It would have to be small with plastic on the T. Just Haven't seen one yet. It's way easier to hold and turn.
 

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Have you seen a T-handle Allen wrench for the grub(set screws). Just wondered since it's been some time since we talked about the philips clip on a screwdriver (points on v8)..
I have never seen a t-handle set that small. Wotofo makes this part and includes it with their attys that need a hex key. That's what I have been using:
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I have never seen a t-handle set that small. Wotofo makes this part and includes it with their attys that need a hex key. That's what I have been using:
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Thanks buddy. A simple tiny T-handle(hardened steel) would be killer compared to a slippery L Allen that's soft and twists. Maybe you can let someone know(you have more clout). I don't need other tools such as philips head comboed. If you think about it just a small Allen T is way cool. I think it will sell or part of extra's in each atty box. You have better grip and torque(ya see).
 

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i got one of these last Friday. i really really like it. as already mentioned, it's an RDA sitting on a reservoir. this thing really kicks the vapor and flavor. i'm really enjoying it. the build quality, ease of build, leak free design, and overall looks are top notch. i cut my wicks to the top of the glass and have no problems staying saturated. this is probably my favorite atty at the moment. i didn't think anything would top the Boreas and Moonshot that i've been using.

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