Local NW Floridian with severe injuries from exploding ecig battery

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deluxe

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I just want to point out for those who may not be aware that there are battery-free PV's available from several different vendors. They are called "usb passthroughs" and plug into the usb port on your laptop or into a usb wall adapter. Some of these devices DO still use a battery so read the description carefully if you want a device that is completely battery free.

These devices are really a great idea for the times you're at your desk or on the couch. It's a shame they don't have more models with better features. However they do work and if you're really nervous about batteries, you do have an option :)
 

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Ok. AW Batts - what kind of charger?

The only charger I will use is a Pila charger, I have owned some cheaper ones and once I did some research, I bought a Pila. I've been using it for almost a year, and I plan to replace it soon. And get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
 

joeman

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I just noticed that Fox news has the identical story same name but says it happened in Mobile, Al. Humm. Makes you think someone is behind this???? This needs to be researched!!
This story looks like it is might be new news, current. Something happened Monday evening, story reported on Tuesday, multiple other outlets tying to the story on Tuesday and today. Then again, there are enough similarities on the surface that it also could be the same incident, just that the reporting was delayed by a month, hard to tell either way. Have to see if someone knowledgeable with the other recent story, from a full month back, can confirm whether these are the same or separate incidents. Since this new story lists the person's name and town, it should be easy for someone to say that either they are the same person or different.

I sent a PM to ECF admin asking if they can poke at it.
 

joeman

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Thanks Mark, I believe the story and it is so sad to happen. I'm a bit worried the media will spread the story, embelish. I just found it strange that Fox would pretend the incident happened in Alabama. I wish Tom a speedy recovery!!!
The Florida one is real. Someone contacted ECF about it, there was a post from OldSoldier, the accident occured Monday evening, Feb 13.
 

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Thanks Mark, I believe the story and it is so sad to happen. I'm a bit worried the media will spread the story, embelish. I just found it strange that Fox would pretend the incident happened in Alabama. I wish Tom a speedy recovery!!!

The Fox news story says the incident happened in Pensacola, FL and that the victim is recovering in a Mobile, Alabama hospital. I saw on another thread that it appears the man was using stacked batteries, or something that you're not supposed to do, so I hope that information comes out as quickly as it's spreading, just scaring people!
 

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Wow scary. I didn't realize they were that dangerous. How do you know which ones are bad and how do you improperly charge them to make them dangerous? I just stick it in my charger and when it turns green take it off. I even vape holding my 3 month old baby. Now you got me scared. LOL Really though. Maybe I should do some research too.

How do we know if our batts and chargers are safe?? Is it dangerous if I leave it on the charger all night? I'm guessing the answer to that is yes! Wow.. who knew? And is there any way to tell if there's a problem with a battery? Questions, questions!! I use V2's and Elite 808's... no plans for acquiring anything much bigger than those as they've worked very well for me.. how unfortunate for this poor man,,, and the rest of us too. The anti-ecig bandwagon is about to get fuller. damn.


One of the most important safety factors with li-ion chargers is whether or not they trickle charge. The rest of the proper charging methods are good to have (which is kind of complicated to explain), but having true charge termination (or at least extremely low trickle charge, like in the 100 microamp, uA, or less range) is probably one of the most important things to have. Sadly most of the li-ion chargers on the market trickle charge at a dangerous rate (in the double or triple digit milliamp range, which is VERY bad).

You can test your own chargers by using a DMM (Digital multimeter) to test the current after the charger has fully charged the battery. Just know that to test current you need to wire the DMM's probes in series with the battery and charger, and this can be a tricky method.

Please see this thread over at CPF, scroll down the thread and check out the section about testing the charger's current (its a ways down the first post), he explains how you can test this (also has pictures, which helps a lot in figuring out what he is talking about).
Simple guide to using a DMM for measurements


As for my suggestions on chargers, the Pila IBC is one of the best ones out there ATM.
Pila IBC Charger for 14500 / 17500 / 18500 / 18650 3.7 volt Lithium Battery Charger

If you want something cheaper but still does a great job following most proper charging procedures, check out the Xtar WP2 II, you can get it for about $17.
Xtar WP2 II Li-Ion Charger

Here is a thread taking measurements/review of this charger, its a good read and explains that the charger is indeed pretty good and safe. Surprisingly its one of the better ones out there despite its cheap price tag.
Review of / Measurement on Xtar WP2 II charger


Stay safe guys and gals! Li-ions are not batteries to take lightly!
 

Taniger1

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Wow, I just bought a Pila cause the battery charger I WAS using started going wonky!!! I bought the Pila cause it is the most highly reccommended on ECF, I also use AW batteries but I use them cause they just seem to hold a CHARGE better and sustain themselves longer. I don't run my batteries dead cause I like to vape at the 4.0 to 3.7v range, so when the batteries run uner the 3.7ish, I put them in for recharging! Just by shear LUCK I guess I been doing things right!

On a side note, I get my batteries and the Pila charger from from Oveready (just toss a dot com). Tad more spendy by a dollar or two, but, they ALWAYS ship right away, it takes about 3 days TOPS and I ALWAYS get what I order, no fuss no muss! Never had a complaint for or from them.
 

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I use NiMH 1.2v batteries, 4 stacked AA that last all day. I did have a problem once
where my atty connector shorted out completely, it ruined a couple perfectly good
battery springs, didn't even heat up the batteries. And the batteries were still fully
serviceable after being recharged (the short drained them completely)

If you want a bit higher voltage NiZn 1.6v rechargeable are also available and safe.
Work very well with a 2.0 ohm DCC, with ~7.5v fresh off the charger, drops to about
6.5v under load with dual coils.
 
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