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    About the same here. Probably anyone that started vaping far enough back did cartos as well. There's a box around here somewhere full of what I call Karto Krap, tanks, etc (kind of like another one full of Kanger Krap). They were a fail from the start for my DL style, so I dived into mech tube mods, rebuildable rda's and the destined to fail Provari's in short order.

    The very first 18XXX tube mods I bought... Segelei #20 Roller, #9E, #8W with both tubes and from their first preorder a ZMAX V5 VV/VW. It turned out that I wasn't much of a fan of telescoping tube mods, and especially mods of any description that couldn't fire sub ohm builds.
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    I have always considered sub ohm on a mechanical mod to be an adventure of doom.
    Thank God they have come up with enough box mods so that folks can sub ohm safely.

    But I'll stick to my mechanical mods (with 1.5-2 ohm coils)
     

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    I have always considered sub ohm on a mechanical mod to be an adventure of doom.
    Thank God they have come up with enough box mods so that folks can sub ohm safely.

    But I'll stick to my mechanical mods (with 1.5-2 ohm coils)

    And TJ's signature is what started me on the path to leaving the crowd. It took a while but I did it.
     

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    Oops, sorry. My questions was directed at @Spydro and wasn't meant as nasty. Just a curious question. I don't think anyone in this forum owns as much nostalgic gear as he does.

    And, in a similar vein of non-nastiness, I have deleted my snarky question, leaving only my answer.
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    That's ok. Not a problem. You didn't need to edit anything.

    And to clarify, I wasn't trying to insinuate that @Spydro is a vendor or anything like that. Just asking if, in his past, he had ties to the industry in some manner, I mean to have so much gear. Like for instance, maybe was a reviewer so got a lot of gear to review.
     

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    Sheesh, take a hiatus from the computer for a bit and... ;)

    @UncleJunkle, I wasn't a reviewer for the industry, I was just an every day user like most folks who posted his personal experiences with gear I had on open forums. The personal ties I had with some specific gear makers was mostly friendly ones where they offered and sold me some special or rare gear I was interested in. One of those ties lead to being offered a spot on their team, but I was not at all interested in being on anybody's payroll, so I declined.

    I have always been a collector of many things, like the thrill of new discovery. Lots of things were as investments, but many others were mainly because they were part of the specific hobbies I did most of my life. And I bought the best available. Since I had stopped smoking before I knew there was a vaping alternative to it, I considered vaping and doing DIY from the start as being just another fun hobby to pass the time with that would have learning curves. That's why I bought some early historical vaping gear that I didn't plan to ever use when I had the opportunity to buy some collectable pieces of that history.

    As for the "so much gear"... my path in vaping was no doubt a progressive one. Especially early on as I was learning what I liked and didn't like, and more importantly what my final vaping style would end up being. And it was a hard row to stop doing later. So somewhat like what @CMD-Ky experienced until I stopped listening to the arm chair experts on the forums and most of the industry reviewers years ago. I bought mostly MTL gear at first that didn't get it done for me, some that was pure junk to me. And more of it later that were hyped as better than the early buys but still not my thing. And with both mech and regulated mods there was a share of failures as well. The biggest fail on my part with all that was probably because when something showed some promise I bought up a lot of it and spares for them while they were still available and they ended up being a fail. Seven Chalice atty's at about $1200 comes to mind, a total fail. Top gear at the time to many who did MTL, worthless for DL. Several $200-$500 mods that also was not my thing. So maybe my path was like a 'do I really need 37 Reos/Woodvils' kind of thing to some folks. The answer was YES with them anyway as they became my favorite gear and have had the longest daily run of all my gear since the first one bought in mid 2014. So I don't consider 37 of them and endless spares for them as being a fail (even though I never used hardly any of the spares). Same with other similar gear that did stay on my gear front line for a time but eventually were retired. So yes I do have a ton of gear, it would take a finger binary system to count them. And a fair amount of it still unused/brand new. I didn't care about the cost at the time because I saw them all as vaping history (like the gear I bought because they were already old and outdated vaping history). They are not on display, I don't have anyplace big enough here for all of them (same as most of my collections). So they are retired in storage boxes.
     

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    The biggest fail on my part with all that was probably because when something showed some promise I bought up a lot of it and spares for them while they were still available and they ended up being a fail.

    I can sorta relate to this.
     

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    Your collection could start a vaping museum. Sort of like American Prohibition Museum | Visit America's Only Prohibition Museum should vaping ever become legal and the nannies, the tax collectors, and tobacco monopolies get their comeuppance.

    Sheesh, take a hiatus from the computer for a bit and... ;)

    @UncleJunkle, I wasn't a reviewer for the industry, I was just an every day user like most folks who posted his personal experiences with gear I had on open forums. The personal ties I had with some specific gear makers was mostly friendly ones where they offered and sold me some special or rare gear I was interested in. One of those ties lead to being offered a spot on their team, but I was not at all interested in being on anybody's payroll, so I declined.

    I have always been a collector of many things, like the thrill of new discovery. Lots of things were as investments, but many others were mainly because they were part of the specific hobbies I did most of my life. And I bought the best available. Since I had stopped smoking before I knew there was a vaping alternative to it, I considered vaping and doing DIY from the start as being just another fun hobby to pass the time with that would have learning curves. That's why I bought some early historical vaping gear that I didn't plan to ever use when I had the opportunity to buy some collectable pieces of that history.

    As for the "so much gear"... my path in vaping was no doubt a progressive one. Especially early on as I was learning what I liked and didn't like, and more importantly what my final vaping style would end up being. And it was a hard row to stop doing later. So somewhat like what @CMD-Ky experienced until I stopped listening to the arm chair experts on the forums and most of the industry reviewers years ago. I bought mostly MTL gear at first that didn't get it done for me, some that was pure junk to me. And more of it later that were hyped as better than the early buys but still not my thing. And with both mech and regulated mods there was a share of failures as well. The biggest fail on my part with all that was probably because when something showed some promise I bought up a lot of it and spares for them while they were still available and they ended up being a fail. Seven Chalice atty's at about $1200 comes to mind, a total fail. Top gear at the time to many who did MTL, worthless for DL. Several $200-$500 mods that also was not my thing. So maybe my path was like a 'do I really need 37 Reos/Woodvils' kind of thing to some folks. The answer was YES with them anyway as they became my favorite gear and have had the longest daily run of all my gear since the first one bought in mid 2014. So I don't consider 37 of them and endless spares for them as being a fail (even though I never used hardly any of the spares). Same with other similar gear that did stay on my gear front line for a time but eventually were retired. So yes I do have a ton of gear, it would take a finger binary system to count them. And a fair amount of it still unused/brand new. I didn't care about the cost at the time because I saw them all as vaping history (like the gear I bought because they were already old and outdated vaping history). They are not on display, I don't have anyplace big enough here for all of them (same as most of my collections). So they are retired in storage boxes.
     

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    You thinking of Boba's Bounty?

    DING! DING! DING! DING!

    That was a good one...........

    ..... but NOT the proprietary one that Blu had put out at the time that nobody could find....... I think Johnson's Creek was trying to approximate it, but never really succeeded.
     

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    And TJ's signature is what started me on the path to leaving the crowd.

    I also like his sig line. Because it applies to many other things.

    I'm on a hair group on FB, and the gals are product-chasing all the time, end up with cupboards filled with stuffs they won't use. My saying is "hey, all that stuff used to be money!" but taht's not really the point. The point is that the more you work with something, the better you can understand it, and sometimes, you can have a breakthru with it, diff. application or technique, etc.

    Holy grail is hard to get to, but I agree, leaving crowd and saying to self: what will work for ME, not what works for everyone else.
     

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    I Remember a Huge Thread about it, but I Can't remember the exact Flavor.

    Johnson Creek e-Liquids was the 1st Bottled e-Liquids I ever got. And I remember How Cool it felt to be Able to Refill an Atty or a Carto. Verses being at the Mercy of buying Pre-Filled stuff.

    Sad to see them go.

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    well back then there weren't that many "lab made ejuices" was there? I just remember them being one of them.

    So much of stuff I bought was still from cottage industries, i.e, I'd get labels that were obviously made on ink-jet printers LOL
     

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    Carto's on cigalikes got me off cigs very easily and quickly over 10 yrs ago, so they hold a special place in my heart.

    So you were dripping jiuice down into them and you had to keep doing that all day or did you just fill up a bunch of them at a time. That was hard work back then. :)
     

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    So you were dripping jiuice down into them and you had to keep doing that all day or did you just fill up a bunch of them at a time. That was hard work back then. :)

    I don't really remember how long a carto actually lasted but always took several batteries and cartos out and about.....that is why when the tanks came along it was a miracle :)
     

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    I have actually never had or seen a carto. How did they work? There was like matrass foam around a coil or something?

    :blink:

    Think of a Long Cigarette Filter that has a Vertical Coil inside of it. And to keep the Filter Material from burning, the Coil is Sleeved with a Silica Tube.



    BTW: Carto is short for "Cartomizer".
     

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    Think of a Long Cigarette Filter that has a Vertical Coil inside of it. And to keep the Filter Material from burning, the Coil is Sleeved with a Silica Tube.



    BTW: Carto is short for "Cartomizer".


    BTW2: 2/3rds of the Fun of using Cartos was Dreaming Up Ingenious ways to Fill/Clean/Dry them.

    Like this...

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