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Rangertrix

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Pbusardos are like 40 minutes long...

A Pbusardo video under an hour?!?
I think I may faint!
In the vaping industry an hour is known as a 'Busardo'. At least he's made an indelible mark.

I do like his vids though. I've found I skip around in them, unlike years ago when I first started, lol.
 

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You use DNAs and EScribe and your coils doesn't last longer under TC than under wattage only? Sweet juices perhaps?

P.S. I have 7 pods filled with juice and no leaks nowhere. And one pod now has 9 refills (27ml worth) and still going strong so far. :)
 
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Sure Wayneo. I still got that first one that the wick burned up to take apart too. Although looking at those two photos posted, the shots shows clearly that the bottom is glued in. Funny I didn't notice this looking at them with my eyes. So if there is something to weaken the glue like alcohol or a heat gun, it should be a piece of cake. And if that works, somehow it will have to get it glued in again. Otherwise it will leak horribly.

P.S. That pod with 9 refills, I just refilled it again so that is now 10 (30ml). :)
 

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Thanks. But I use DNA & eScribe, and understand all of that. I guess there isn't anything to make this pod last longer than others, though.

That is wrong. Replay has, similarly to TC, dry hit prevention. One of the reasons why it needs a metal wire with a detectible Resistance change is because of that. The board will back of the power when the wick is less saturated.

Now if you vape lesser quality juices full of sweetener, your coil and wick will gunk up regardless, just not as fast with Replay.

If you want the most long lasting coils, use TC and Replay together.
 

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That is wrong. Replay has, similarly to TC, dry hit prevention. One of the reasons why it needs a metal wire with a detectible Resistance change is because of that. The board will back of the power when the wick is less saturated.

Now if you vape lesser quality juices full of sweetener, your coil and wick will gunk up regardless, just not as fast with Replay.

If you want the most long lasting coils, use TC and Replay together.

Okay, Bill & Soulseek- Help me out here. I want to buy & love this thing. But if I only get similar or marginally better life out of a coil, I probably won't.

I don't use sweet, but DIY NET. Probably even worse than sweet for gunking. Now you're telling me what I said is wrong. But all I'm saying is that I don't see anything presented here that indicates it prevents buildup of residue, which kills flavor & makes me rebuild. Explaining how TC works doesn't do it. Replay either. You're now telling me about dry hit prevention, but that's not my question/issue. I've only had 2 dry hits in my life (once forgetting to reopen Kayfun JC, and the other, the mod somehow got to 50W instead of 8 or 9- that one hurt). I vape at 8.5W, don't chain vape, and I don't kill coils/wicks by firing with dry wicks. In fact, I quit TC because I looked at eScribe and realized I rarely even hit 400F. Never had any issues with wicking, with my wattage and pace. Yes, I use DNA, and used TC on it extensively and got no really appreciable difference in coil buildup/life.

Without a review of what TC or Replay does, can you tell me exactly how it reduces buildup and extends life? I'd really like to know how it could possibly do this better than an RTA (doggy).

And yeah- I'm all in, Bill, when you get the plan together on how to rebuild it. that's what I want!
 
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Use flavors that are known to "burn" cleaner or unflavored even.
Thanks DW, but I like my flavors. I did unflavored for a while. I'm not choosing my vape on $ only, of course. My goal isn't to get the longest life possible out of a coil- they cost me less than $0.02. I'm just interested in finding a reason to justify buy this thing, because I loved it at first sight. Checks all my boxes, except for the $4 disposable pod.

Here's hoping I'm watching Bill's video on how to rebuild it shortly!:thumb:
 

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Thanks DW, but I like my flavors. I did unflavored for a while. I'm not choosing my vape on $ only, of course. My goal isn't to get the longest life possible out of a coil- they cost me less than $0.02. I'm just interested in finding a reason to justify buy this thing, because I loved it at first sight. Checks all my boxes, except for the $4 disposable pod.

Here's hoping I'm watching Bill's video on how to rebuild it shortly!:thumb:
I'm guessing that both sides are right and no matter how thin a pancake, it still has two sides. All you guys are right and certainly should buy or not as you wish. What I'm trying to say is that every once in a while each person should pamper/spoil one's self, life is too short and we work too hard, we deserve to buy something that caught our eye and it was love at first sight. Just my 2 centavos
 

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I'm guessing that both sides are right and no matter how thin a pancake, it still has two sides. All you guys are right and certainly should buy or not as you wish. What I'm trying to say is that every once in a while each person should pamper/spoil one's self, life is too short and we work too hard, we deserve to buy something that caught our eye and it was love at first sight. Just my 2 centavos
It caught my eye and I don't really use pods. Mine came in 5 days ago. I really like it. Decent flavor...(I'm use to single coil mech squonkers with restricted DL). Airflow is surprisingly open. It feels like a quality device...not cheap at all. Does it replace anything? No. Will it be in my pocket anytime I go somewhere? More than likely.
 

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Here is one example of how long coils last under TC and the same applies to Replay mode. In the pic, I am disappointed in the poor quality of this iPhone camera. Anyway this coil was rebuilt on June 29th of this year. That is almost 3 months old. Its a Ni200 26/32g Clapton usually running at 420°F.

Wicking has been changed a few times since then, but the coil has never been dry burned (nor should you with nickel). But I quit dry burning about 3 years ago when I looked at Kanthal after dry burning under high magnification. Microfractures all over.

This wicking was changed 3 days ago. Previously I was using organic cotton. This is my first attempt with rayon. And the pic shows it looking burnt (especially on the left end). But it really doesn't look that way. It is all juice that makes it look that dark and the camera makes it darker yet. And the camera makes the coil gunkier looking than it really is. Anyway here it is till I get other camera batteries charged up to get better photos.

Ni200 26-32 Clapton - 3 months old.png
 

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It caught my eye and I don't really use pods. Mine came in 5 days ago. I really like it. Decent flavor...(I'm use to single coil mech squonkers with restricted DL). Airflow is surprisingly open. It feels like a quality device...not cheap at all. Does it replace anything? No. Will it be in my pocket anytime I go somewhere? More than likely.
I had to go out of town for the last three days, it was a rather short notice thing. I had the Orion and a BB with me and a 30 ml bottle of juice. I keep my older battery charger in the car just in case my batteries run low while at work (never happened but better safe than sorry) so off I went. The Orion is a serviceable pod/mod, it will not replace my BBs or the other mods but it definitely held its own and came in handy. Good flavor and good vape with the 0.5 ohm pod/coil, good battery life with the REPLAY function on.
 

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Sure Wayneo. I still got that first one that the wick burned up to take apart too. Although looking at those two photos posted, the shots shows clearly that the bottom is glued in. Funny I didn't notice this looking at them with my eyes. So if there is something to weaken the glue like alcohol or a heat gun, it should be a piece of cake. And if that works, somehow it will have to get it glued in again. Otherwise it will leak horribly.

P.S. That pod with 9 refills, I just refilled it again so that is now 10 (30ml). :)
Looking around at CA glues and such.....I'm taking a wild guess that is the type of glues used in these pods so it might be this stuff will work? Stick Fast CA Glue Debonder, 2 oz.
 

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According to the SDS it is acetone and propylene carbonate. Just mentioning it in case it is useful.
It's got the makings of nail polish remover, propylene carbonate is derived from PG
I think that it might tend to "eat" the plastic.
Edit: the fingernail polish didn't seem to have much reaction to the glue or the plastic...a hacksaw did though.
 
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I'm super surprised how much I use my Orions SnapDragon NY. I thought I would use them more when I am out and about. But I am using them like 90% of the time anyway. So what pods did you order with it? Personally, I don't think you will be disappointed in either one really. :)
 

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... This wicking was changed 3 days ago. Previously I was using organic cotton. This is my first attempt with rayon. And the pic shows it looking burnt (especially on the left end). But it really doesn't look that way. It is all juice that makes it look that dark and the camera makes it darker yet. And the camera makes the coil gunkier looking than it really is. Anyway here it is till I get other camera batteries charged up to get better photos.

Here you go, a better camera. Ni200 26/32g Clapton almost 3 months old. Hundreds of ml vaped through it.

Ni200 26-32 Clapton - 3 months old_2.JPG
 
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