LR 801 Shorty

[aschmidy]

I wish I had read this whole thread more carefully before I ordered, as I kind of want a real drip tip for the LR shorties that I bought. However, maybe the new ones have come in, or will soon enough to fulfill my order in a timely manner. Failing that, I am hoping Iken can switch my atomizers to the longer 801 LR's. I am down to one LR now. A couple weeks ago I had four, from other vendor. So that shows how well most of these other ones last, even if you are careful and don't let them dry out.

I wish I was better with a computer, but it would take me a week to post a picture. These LR801 shorties look really sharp with my super t black drip tip. It works just fine on it, I just don't push it all the way down, it still fits in snug, no leaks or air. I hadn't had any luck with 801s before, but these are really nice! Smooth with tons of vapor. Just how I like it

 

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Ahhhh, good to see the shorty will not only be drip tip friendly, it is coming in at 3.5OHMS :d:d:d

Isaac, why don't I just send you my pesnion check direct

 

[Vaporologist]

Switched, you're alive!

I'm with you all the way, shorty 801 3.5 ohm drip tip friendly at 6V, very nice! I had no idea he was bringing them in until he sent out the newsletter. I guess he just loves to surprise us.

The SLB 510 3.5 ohm which you and Isaac recommended for 6V has taken my vaping experience to a new level. Remember how I told you once that I chain-vape and go through 5-7 ml of liquid per day? Well, no more. With this configuration I take 3-5 drags every 10-20 minutes and it just hits the spot, offering pure satisfaction. I'm down to 3-4 ml per day and get as much satisfaction as I need. I suspect that the shorty 801 3.5 will provide as much satisfaction with even more flavor.

 

[Switched]

Yes I am alive and kicking, I have been the entire duration here. I need to re-evaluate my nicotine consumption when I get back home. I believe I am over doing it. I'm not sure how much I vape a day I used to say 3-5ml. I think it is more like 5-7 though. At 24 mg that represents 120-168mg a day, compared to 50mg for analogs. So 3ml of 18mg would be more like it. Might have to go as low as 12mg.

 

[Iken]

I wish I was better with a computer, but it would take me a week to post a picture. These LR801 shorties look really sharp with my super t black drip tip. It works just fine on it, I just don't push it all the way down, it still fits in snug, no leaks or air. I hadn't had any luck with 801s before, but these are really nice! Smooth with tons of vapor. Just how I like it

Aww Ash! It's fairly easy. Just hop over to Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket make an account using only your email address, it's totally free. You click upload, it will ask where is the photo in a standard windows box, you click it, then it will give you a list of codes, you only need one the IMG code, right click copy and paste it anywhere you type on the forum, done and done.

Ahhhh, good to see the shorty will not only be drip tip friendly, it is coming in at 3.5OHMS :d:d:d

Isaac, why don't I just send you my pesnion check direct

LOL Ahh just have it set so it forwards a percentage Not greedy
One of the best things in the world is a surprise, well a pleasant surprise anyway! I owe all the credit to you my friend No person alone is perfect. With the help of yours and everyone else's like Vman,Mini,WWay Aspen (I could just keep on going with a lost!) inputs. We're learning how to create our own vaping sanctuary and home. As the additions role, we all will keep advancing together.

Yes I am alive and kicking, I have been the entire duration here. I need to re-evaluate my nicotine consumption when I get back home. I believe I am over doing it. I'm not sure how much I vape a day I used to say 3-5ml. I think it is more like 5-7 though. At 24 mg that represents 120-168mg a day, compared to 50mg for analogs. So 3ml of 18mg would be more like it. Might have to go as low as 12mg.

Oh man, we need to change your setup Switcher! I'm down to 12mg, but we don't want to go that route! LOL. Seriously though, that kind of tolerance you built up can be scary. Nicotine itself isn't really bad for you as we know, but having your body rely on that heavy of an amount can be and if your mind is telling you caution please take heed my dear friend, you have me really concerned here. You have all the necessary tools on hand and I know how much you Love your eGo, but maybe it's time to use something with a higher voltage to give you the satisfaction enough to ween down a bit.

 

[mwa102464]

Switched dont feel so bad buddy, I hit two tankfulls a day on my 2 GGTS/AVS units plus use my egos, so I'm up around 10-12 ML's a day of 24mg. I know that doesnt seem possible but belive me it is the way my AVS units like to drink and filling my LR510 Carto's too along with my AVS tanks I go though some darn juice. I have to figure a way to start cutting back on my MG as well, I have one avs unit running at 6v on my GGTS & another one at 3.7 with an LR in it too, so I am going to try and gradually start cutting back 2mg's a week now until I get down to 12mg all day vape and re evaluate then. I have to at lease try this and now

 

[Switched]

*SNIP

Oh man, we need to change your setup Switcher! I'm down to 12mg, but we don't want to go that route! LOL. Seriously though, that kind of tolerance you built up can be scary. Nicotine itself isn't really bad for you as we know, but having your body rely on that heavy of an amount can be and if your mind is telling you caution please take heed my dear friend, you have me really concerned here. You have all the necessary tools on hand and I know how much you Love your eGo, but maybe it's time to use something with a higher voltage to give you the satisfaction enough to ween down a bit.

Isaac,

It is because I vape a variety of different liquids that I cannot monitor my consumption accurately. I take a couple of toots every couple of minutes, so I thought I was alright, which represents 60 toots an hour give or take, which equates to roughly 4 analogs and hour, so I thought I was fine.

I am at 18mg in the morning, 24mg during the day and 18 or 30mg (sometimes) at night. The 30mg represents the cigar and pipe blends. Although at night I have seen my vaping reduced quite a bit, at times, sometimes only 15-20 toots the entire evening.

This conversation was spurred by a discussion I had with Rob from Vapables during the meet up. Although absorption rate through vaping is not as great as analogs (lack of ammonia), burning tobacco didn't deliver the full nic content of a cig either. But in his humble opinion, we should be aiming at what we consumed as smokers. e.g 2mg per cig = 50mg per pack (25s in Canada).

So when I get home I'll start a day off fresh with 2 x 3ml bottles of differing liquid and measure my consumption @ 18mg. BTW 30mg is used only on occasion.

I found dripping causes me to vape more. which I may have to re-visit as well. No biggie for me as I am not a fan of dripping anyway. I'll save dripping for demon chasing

In retrospect, I top off my carts about 8 times a day which represents 64-72 drops or a little over 3ml, so I may be fine. I know I have seen myself drip almost an entire 3ml bottle from mid afternoon to late evening, and that is a concern for me.

The good thing, is that I don't vape a cig worth every time I toot (15 hits), unless I am vaping with a smoker who went out for an analog, but then I am probably only vaping 1-2/hr. Hey, I might even surprise myself once I monitor myself. I know I can vape 18mg so cutting down is no biggie. The down side, I have about 1/2 litre of 24mg liquids which I will loose the flavour when I dilute them down, which may very well result in a greater consumption, because I may wind up using my PV as a pacifier (not a good thing).

ETA: Switching to HV may not be a solution Isaac, which means dripping and my consumption increases there. However, because I roll my own, I may indeed be able to do so by increasing the flavouring. I tried Nhalers 12mg HV liquid, it was blah. Mostly VG and little flavour, which equalled less than favourable satisfaction. To boot, I am not a big fan of HV neither but 5V with a 3 Ohm atty, now we are talking. Although the last combo doesn't give it to me, my nirvana is found between 6-8 watts, which I can easily achieve.

 

[VaporMadness]

I'm really not sure if my nicotine intake is greater with vaping than it was with smoking. Thankfully, I'm not noticing any ill affects associated with too much nicotine. Striking the balance between getting enough, but not too much, nicotine and inhale/exhale fix in many ways is more difficult with vaping than it was with analogs. Cigarettes came in these measured doses, vaping does not.

So when I get home I'll start a day off fresh with 2 x 3ml bottles of differing liquid and measure my consumption @ 18mg.

That sounds like a good plan to get a baseline on how much your hitting the pipe so to speak. You could put yourself on a bugdet in this way too if you wanted.

I tried Nhalers 12mg HV liquid, it was blah. Mostly VG and little flavour, which equalled less than favourable satisfaction.

I like drew's liquids, haven't tried the HVs but the 10mg Octane tobacco flavors have become a staple for me. That high VG content is almost certainly contributing to the shorter than usual atty life that I keep bumping into... but i like the thick smooth vapor too much to stay away from that much VG.

 

[Switched]

I'm really not sure if my nicotine intake is greater with vaping than it was with smoking. Thankfully, I'm not noticing any ill affects associated with too much nicotine. Striking the balance between getting enough, but not too much, nicotine and inhale/exhale fix in many ways is more difficult with vaping than it was with analogs. Cigarettes came in these measured doses, vaping does not.



That sounds like a good plan to get a baseline on how much your hitting the pipe so to speak. You could put yourself on a bugdet in this way too if you wanted.



I like drew's liquids, haven't tried the HVs but the 10mg Octane tobacco flavors have become a staple for me. That high VG content is almost certainly contributing to the shorter than usual atty life that I keep bumping into... but i like the thick smooth vapor too much to stay away from that much VG.

Yup! I picked that up a while back. I found that rolling the vape instead of exhaling gives me great satisfaction over clouds of vapour. My mixes are 80/20 and folks at the GTA meet couldn't believe I wasn't vaping VG or using an LR. Just good old RYO liquid on the P18 and short lizard.

 

[mwa102464]

Thats the perfect percentage of pg/vg switched I'm righ there with ya on that and lately been mixing at 75/25, flavoring percentage however is key for me, these people that say they use between 5-15% maybe with menthol or pepermint but for most of my Home brews Im up around 30% and really enjoy tasting what I'm vaping as well. I've also found that the RYO is most deffinately the way to roll cost wise and just being able to get everything right where you want it is key for me. Perfect high Wattage and the corect ohm match with the best Liquids all equal the best vape sessions.!!

 

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Thats the perfect percentage of pg/vg switched I'm righ there with ya on that and lately been mixing at 75/25, flavoring percentage however is key for me, these people that say they use between 5-15% maybe with menthol or pepermint but for most of my Home brews Im up around 30% and really enjoy tasting what I'm vaping as well. I've also found that the RYO is most deffinately the way to roll cost wise and just being able to get everything right where you want it is key for me. Perfect high Wattage and the corect ohm match with the best Liquids all equal the best vape sessions.!!

Yup! you must have read my notes I've done 25 and right up to 35% and settled on 20%. I may go as high as 25% when I drop nic though. IMO cutting the VG with H2O is key for wickability.

 

[mwa102464]

Really H2O I dont have any problems wicking what so ever and would think H2O would only hurt that aspect and also dilute the taste, I cant say I agree with you on this one switched no H2O for this big guy, I also have been doing the flavoring and testing a bunch with mixes and for me it is up around 25-30 on almost every flavor I use execpt the menthols and pepermints or any sort like that, I also really like the 25pg over the 20 it just seems to make for the perfect mix for me and gives me just that extra bit of vapor to create plumes of it and with the 25-30 flavoring I can really taste my vape sessions and I would almost go up against the best of em with my mix's now

 

[VaporMadness]

Yup! I picked that up a while back. I found that rolling the vape instead of exhaling gives me great satisfaction over clouds of vapour. My mixes are 80/20 and folks at the GTA meet couldn't believe I wasn't vaping VG or using an LR. Just good old RYO liquid on the P18 and short lizard.

Hmmmm... that makes me want to try my hand at it. Getting big vapor is key for me, more so than flavor or throat hit. To feel and see a voluminous plume of "smoke" and wisps of "smoke" is just, for whatever reason, important. I'll put it this way... there is such a thing as too much flavor and too much throat hit... but there is no such thing as too much vapor

Are there tangible differences in the base ingredients (VG or PG or NicBase) from the different suppliers out there... or are those basically equivalent? No doubt the flavors are tangibly different. May be time for me to visit the DIY liquid subforums.

 

[Vaporologist]

It's so funny how we are all so different. For me, #1 TH, #2 Flavor, and #3 Vapor. When I started vaping it was all about vapor. Now, I want to take 3-4 hits, have my breath taken away. That's where I get my satisfaction. It needs to taste good, too. If there is a lot of thick vapor I won't complain by any means but it's not my main concern. I've had liquids that produce a ton of vapor with little TH and I felt unsatisfied and kept on chain vaping, something I don't enjoy as much anymore. Now, it's mostly about the feel, TH and flavor.

 

[Switched]

Hmmmm... that makes me want to try my hand at it. Getting big vapor is key for me, more so than flavor or throat hit. To feel and see a voluminous plume of "smoke" and wisps of "smoke" is just, for whatever reason, important. I'll put it this way... there is such a thing as too much flavor and too much throat hit... but there is no such thing as too much vapor

Are there tangible differences in the base ingredients (VG or PG or NicBase) from the different suppliers out there... or are those basically equivalent? No doubt the flavors are tangibly different. May be time for me to visit the DIY liquid subforums.

Ahhhh, my dearest Goldielocks yes there is.

I support all you stated with the exception of the bold text. Heavily laden VG liquids cause clouds of vapour that linger, not something one wants in public. During my vacation I vaped in public extensively, including many restaurants before and after meals, no one was the wiser. AAMOF I don't believe I could have pulled off what I did, otherwise. Remember these were all non-smoking areas, to include but not limited to a smoke-free amusement park. Folks saw, gawked and couldn't figure out what I was doing but never did anyone nor staff say a word. I even vaped on the rides (where and when I could LOL)