LR 801 tips/tricks?

[Switched]

On VG and the 801, even though I am flooding less, maybe I am still dripping too much. After like 10 times dripping, sometimes I might get flooded out, or performance will drop. I can get a gurgling but the atty will be a dry hit, or if I blow out into a tissue (and see a lot of juice) and then re-prime I get better performance. This just means I am dripping too much right? I do space out and take like 1 hit then set it down, come back and re-drip sometimes.

By the sounds of that description, yes you are definitely dripping too much. After you blow them out, no need to re-prime, 2-3 drops should get you off running.

In terms of the mixing, I feel bad for you that you can't tolerate PG Switched. I think if I was allergic I would be tempted to quit vaping. The one time I vaped like 80-90% VG, I got phlegm and a coating on my tongue, couldn't stand it. I was actually wondering how low I could go on VG before getting too invisible of a vape, but I haven't played around with it yet. If that is going to hurt 801 performance, or I would maybe get better performance going toward 60/40 PG/VG, I just wanted to know.

Maybe it is because I properly cut my VG that I don't get the coating on my tongue. I do get some accumulation in my throat, but not as much as smoking.

Prior to switching to all VG I used to vape 80/20 PG/VG (the VG diluted to 20%) not a problem, and great vapour.

It's curious to me that you say "vapour = steam = water in gas form", because there is definitely something different about vaping VG. I read your thread about predominantly-VG mixes hurting performance, and I know how VG gunks up my mouth. Is the problem that VG doesn't convert as fully to water when vaporized as PG?

PG is more volatile than water (SG) VG OTOH is heavier than H2O and hence less volatile. It sinks in the solution. Since both nic and water have an SG of one, it becomes a mute point. That being said... I could dilute with PGA, but that changes the fl;avour and makes the vape harsher.

 

[VaporMadness]

NHalers high octane liquids are the.... as far as I am concerned from experience, they are simply too thick.

They are a little thick... but I sure do like the vapor they produce... its like the visible form of throat hit and it just feels a little heavier in the air. I've got some new BWB liquids that are thinner and taste nicer, but there's just some extra satisfaction that I get out of the Octanes that i think is mostly due to the vapor (i think). I'm starting to play with blending the BWB's with some thicker liquids that I've got (100% VG stuff).

Ah yes Goldie winter and summer oil. Ya need to carry your PVs in your inside pockets as well as your liquids in this type of weather. This is even with diluted VG. Man I wish I wasn't allergic to PG. I enjoy VG but miss certain traits only a PG liquid could offer.

I feel bad for you about the PG thing too. Do you know if your sensitivity to PG is permanent or is it something that can diminish over time? Ya know, I'm looking forward to my 6v setup (it'll be here tomorrow), it should provide a little higher power than my 3.7v rig. Some extra wattage may let me come to appreciate higher PG/VG ratios. And if thats true maybe Isaac's move to 1.8 for the LR line will be even more appreciated!

I was hoping to hear the "twisted and colored" ones from that other place would fit.

The twisted and colored tips are very cool looking!

On VG and the 801, even though I am flooding less, maybe I am still dripping too much. After like 10 times dripping, sometimes I might get flooded out, or performance will drop. I can get a gurgling but the atty will be a dry hit, or if I blow out into a tissue (and see a lot of juice) and then re-prime I get better performance. This just means I am dripping too much right? I do space out and take like 1 hit then set it down, come back and re-drip sometimes.

Gurgling... yup, that sounds like a bit of flooding to me... it's a balancing act... although sometimes liquid that has leaked out of the atty and into the 510/801 adapter makes a kind of gurgling sound too without the atty being flooded... sometimes i just have to clean off the adapter.

60/40 PG/VG

About being "too runny", i was just parroting another poster's complaint about a thinner liquid as compared to a thicker one. Personally, i think 60/40 is a pretty good ratio, even 50/50. It really does come down to personal preference. It's all good

 

[Switched]

They are a little thick... but I sure do like the vapor they produce... its like the visible form of throat hit and it just feels a little heavier in the air.

The downside is it makes it difficult to stealth vape because the vapour lingers. It is hard to convince someone your not smoking when the vapour lingers longer than cig smoke LOL. I also appreciate where you are coming from. The visual is important to you, me it's flavour.

I feel bad for you about the PG thing too. Do you know if your sensitivity to PG is permanent or is it something that can diminish over time?

Once one becomes sensitive to something, that is it. I troubleshot what was happening for some time before I reached my conclusions. Some flavourings that use a heavier concentration of PG as a carrier are definitely noticeable, even in an all VG mix. So yeah it sucks to be me on the bright side, I am still vaping I am definitely on a fast track towards 0 nic though. I will have supplies on hand for low nic fixes as I cannot vape unflavoured juice. I know I test all my unflavoured when they come in.

Ya know, I'm looking forward to my 6v setup (it'll be here tomorrow), it should provide a little higher power than my 3.7v rig. Some extra wattage may let me come to appreciate higher PG/VG ratios. And if thats true maybe Isaac's move to 1.8 for the LR line will be even more appreciated!

Higher voltages = shorter pulls for same performance. Long pulls = major gag, for me anyway. I used to be 5-7 sec pulls. I am now down to 2-3 sec. There is some benefits to all VG liquids. You loose some taste, but the throat hit is the greatest lost. That being said... I was never a vaper that went for reckless TH anyway. Yup! it is all good.

Oh I forgot, the 306s will deliver in my time of needs down the road. They have been set aside especially for that

 

[Wharf Rat]

Truly a FOG Machine !!! I just got my IKV MINI 801 today. Followed priming instructions (earlier in thread), actually dripped about 12 drops. I started with 8 and it didn't look wet enough. I let it sit for several minutes then blew it out and added 2 more. I thought I got good vp from carto's before. I had no idea. This is amazing! I thought the camera made vapor look so thick in review videos. It is real and I'm loving it
Thanks VM and Switched.
Thank you Isaac for another great IKV product and I hope you feel better soon !

 

[VaporMadness]

WTG Wharf... sounds like you done broke the code!