I have two that sizzle and crackle like a sparkler on the 4th of july, really harsh on my throat..and two that are smooth and wonderful. well one, the other got really wimpy after a few weeks, I think it's pooping out on me.
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I think these things need to be kept very wet like a HV Atty that works for me on the HV's S im gonna try that as soon as I get mine hopefully tomorrow
I have 2 that have lasted 3 weeks and still going strong. I've been using them with my Chucks, BB, and my laser mod. They do give a throat hit similar to 5V, but I find that I still like my GLV better. I don't get any harshness and get better flavor with the GLV. Hopefully they can improve upon these attys some more.
It would be interesting to get a thermocouple inside the cone and see what is going on in there. Evil little atty killing gremlins live in there I suspect 
Another reason the Tornado has been put away and the XShaler is in my hand at the moment.
Another reason the Tornado has been put away and the XShaler is in my hand at the moment.
I've been using the same LR atty for about two weeks with my BB. It still works perfectly. You all talked me out of getting a tornado though!
Glinda i was using the same atty for few weeks too but i opened another package and now using that one . the other one still is working well. i use the LR atty on my Phidius, Xhaler and GG Grant and it still works good. guess i am lucky.
It would be interesting to get a thermocouple inside the cone and see what is going on in there. Evil little atty killing gremlins live in there I suspect
Another reason the Tornado has been put away and the XShaler is in my hand at the moment.
This is my dead LR atty where I removed the bridge and mesh. Before taking the pix I did tear apart the coil because it was already broken. That inner cylinder is not attached to the wall so that is why it moves around so easy. I tend to break things when I try to take attys apart with old batteries so I did this with my pipe cutter.
Actually, it may be most, but not all. I don't have a tornado, or a mega battery, and like LukeNM, mine died on my Silver Bullet @ 3.7v.
I understand it's a business, all I'm saying is attys should at LEAST have a warranty for DOA and a day or two. I can see after that, tuff luck. I can also see that a number of factors can go into the life of an atty, and a business shouldn't have to worry about all of those. But in the interest of customer service, I think a DOA and short warranty is good for all.
Drew,
Were your LR atomizers from different manufactures? I am seeing inconsistencies between them.
My first order included the black LR atomizers, these had white insulation around the center pole and was over flowing with primer, I burned the first one out really quick (possibly my fault, by not keeping the atty wet enough trying to burn off the primer). The insulation and center pin seemed to move around a bit once they got heated as well. My second one from that batch seems to work alright, but lost the flavor and vapor after about 10 days.
My second order also from your first batch were the stainless ones that also had white insulation, these had very little primer and I had been using one for about 3 weeks. It finally died 3 days ago. There seemed to be some "play" between the insulation and center pole just like the black ones. These also seem to be outlasting the black ones I have.
This last batch of stainless ones have black insulation and seem to not move around as much as the ones with white insulation and have very little primer. I am not sure if they will last as long as the first SS batch since I just started using one, but they seem to be working alright.
If they are from different manufactures, there seems to be a difference in build and possible quality. Also I vape only one liquid constantly and only use one type of PV, so I doubt that these are contributing factors to the inconsistency I am seeing.
Were your LR atomizers from different manufactures? I am seeing inconsistencies between them.
My first order included the black LR atomizers, these had white insulation around the center pole and was over flowing with primer, I burned the first one out really quick (possibly my fault, by not keeping the atty wet enough trying to burn off the primer). The insulation and center pin seemed to move around a bit once they got heated as well. My second one from that batch seems to work alright, but lost the flavor and vapor after about 10 days.
My second order also from your first batch were the stainless ones that also had white insulation, these had very little primer and I had been using one for about 3 weeks. It finally died 3 days ago. There seemed to be some "play" between the insulation and center pole just like the black ones. These also seem to be outlasting the black ones I have.
This last batch of stainless ones have black insulation and seem to not move around as much as the ones with white insulation and have very little primer. I am not sure if they will last as long as the first SS batch since I just started using one, but they seem to be working alright.
If they are from different manufactures, there seems to be a difference in build and possible quality. Also I vape only one liquid constantly and only use one type of PV, so I doubt that these are contributing factors to the inconsistency I am seeing.
I don't think it has anything to do with a Tornado/ego either..I think it has to do with shipment differences, the first one I bought lasted 10 days worked great.. the second two were DOA.
On another note I am trying another vendor on a Tornado and it is working but doesn't seem to give me the same vape as the first one I bought from Nhaler.. I think it has more to do with quality control issues at the factory.. not one device over another.
On another note I am trying another vendor on a Tornado and it is working but doesn't seem to give me the same vape as the first one I bought from Nhaler.. I think it has more to do with quality control issues at the factory.. not one device over another.
I use the LR atomizers on my eGo and ProVape. I'm finding that the difference isn't with what device it is on, but rather the juice. These atties don't seem to like high VG juices. Straight PG or a mix of no more than PG/VG - 80/20 and the atties work fine with either device.
This is my dead LR atty where I removed the bridge and mesh. Before taking the pix I did tear apart the coil because it was already broken. That inner cylinder is not attached to the wall so that is why it moves around so easy. I tend to break things when I try to take attys apart with old batteries so I did this with my pipe cutter.
Is that a LR from NHaler?
If so.. then it is different from the unit(s) that I have received from them. Probably a different manufacturer.. certainly a different manufacturing technique.
Interesting that the only people reporting problems here all use them on the eG0/Tornado. The one that has died on me died on my Tornado as well, while on the Bartleby (& now XShaler!) another LR atty has been going strong for a couple of weeks no prob. That cone slows the draw across the atty which I suspect could lead to the atty getting too hot...?
ScottBee, you use them on a Tornado right...any probs or words of wisdom on this?
I'll just throw some mud at this.. no assurance that any of it will stick.
A LR atty... just like a standard atty on HV, is trying to dissipate a lot of power. There are "beneficial" ways for it to dissipate that power, and wasteful ways. If the power is used to make vapor.. that's good. Any power wasted on making (excess) heat (or light!) is bad. And since the coil is trying to dissipate a lot of power in a small space, the only real ways to keep it cool (and prolong the life) is to present it with a lot of liquid to "vaporize", and/or a lot of airflow for forced convection cooling. And.... give it a good heat rejection path for any power that isn't carried away via vapor or airflow.
The Tornado/eGo hurts you in two ways if you are running the cone. The cone "tightens up" the draw... which reduces the overall airflow through the atomizer. And while that usually makes for a "warmer" vapor.. that also means the the coil isn't getting as much cooling air. Secondly, the cone, by design, helps to keep the outer body and overall atomizer temperature a bit higher via the extra layer of insulation. Obviously, that causes the coil temps to go higher also.
While both of those "features" may be viewed as benefits with standard or HR atomizers..... they can probably bring LR atties to an earlier death.
I started removing the bridge and wick to improve airflow and make it easier to drip directly onto the coil. I'm wondering if this may attribute to early deaths because you have a hot or warm metal coil that you are dripping room temperature juice onto. I'm curious if that caused my coil to become brittle and later fall apart when I soaked it in lemon juice/distilled water. The atty was working fine before the soak, I just wanted to get rid of some residual flavor. After the soak the coil was broke and missing the middle section.
Was it a "Phidius Woodius Maximums Orgasmitus" 1.618Ω unit.. or one of the pedestrian 1.5Ω units?
This has me intrigued....
Now I'm intrigued too. Here's one I got last week, it's a 'pedestrian 1.5Ω unit. It died on the TornEgo late last night, but it sacrificed itself for a few autopsy photos for anyone interested:
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