M1A1 description

[Bovinia]

J, it takes a little practice but you'll get it! For drilling I think most folks use a 1/16" bit. Like you said, practicing on a used carto is the way to go until you get the hang of it.

Tracy I forgot to answer you about the saddle valve...it's far easier for me than going down to the basement and fooling with my dremel. So far so good with the two cartos I have punched with it

 

[JGD]

I got my tank working.... finally got the hole punched using more barbaric methods than my diamond drills, etc. (screw/anvil, hammer) and it's working. But I'm not loving it! I need to find the correct sized tip for it... a wheezing of air can be heard while vaping and I never get more vape than I do from a normal Boge carto.. usually less. I get a bit of juice in my mouth through the drip tip from time to time also.... and the hole isn't too big. At first it was too small so I just slightly enlarged it to allow juice to get in. I have one smaller hole on the other side as well. I somehow got the 1.5" tank instead of the one I thought I ordered the 1").. probably my mistake. We have about 12 saws (gem cutting saws) and easily cut it down to correct size. No leakage... we fixed that issue easily. But the vapor production with my tank just isn't impressive. Ideas?
Also, on the front page of your site it shows per-punched cartos in various colors but I can't find them for sale anywhere on the site! Can someone give me a link to the per-punched Boge cartos (suitable for the Riva 510) on the site?

 

[markfm]

On hole size, I'm a dremel person, I just use a single decent size slot, 1/16 - 1/8" tall by 1/4 - 1/3" wide -- pretty large. I vape a thin eliquid, 70% PG plus PGA in the flavorings, no leak. This is on the 1" tank.

I never have gotten more vapor than on a well filled carto, it is just that it is consistent, not having to top off the carto.

I haven't gotten a 1.5" tank to work well, though admittedly only ran a couple cartos in it; I believe this is due to the physical size of the carto, needing to adjust the quantity/placement/size of slots to properly wet the carto. I find a standard length carto (I prefer the fusions, but have used multiple other types), with the single pretty large slot, provides a good vaping experience. I still get 22 - 24 ml of eliquid through a carto, same as without the tank, just that I get excellent vapor right through to the time when I need to change cartos.

 

[FAAmecanic]

To me the vapor I get from my tank is about the same as the first few vapes you get from a well filled carto.

 

[5cardstud]

I got my tank working.... finally got the hole punched using more barbaric methods than my diamond drills, etc. (screw/anvil, hammer) and it's working. But I'm not loving it! I need to find the correct sized tip for it... a wheezing of air can be heard while vaping and I never get more vape than I do from a normal Boge carto.. usually less. I get a bit of juice in my mouth through the drip tip from time to time also.... and the hole isn't too big. At first it was too small so I just slightly enlarged it to allow juice to get in. I have one smaller hole on the other side as well. I somehow got the 1.5" tank instead of the one I thought I ordered the 1").. probably my mistake. We have about 12 saws (gem cutting saws) and easily cut it down to correct size. No leakage... we fixed that issue easily. But the vapor production with my tank just isn't impressive. Ideas?
Also, on the front page of your site it shows per-punched cartos in various colors but I can't find them for sale anywhere on the site! Can someone give me a link to the per-punched Boge cartos (suitable for the Riva 510) on the site?

You need to put Fusions in your tank and then you'll know what vapor is. They are little vapor makers. Oh and soon to be in two sizes. I have three sizes but one isn't needed. But two def are.

 

[Modrod.]

You need to put Fusions in your tank and then you'll know what vapor is. They are little vapor makers. Oh and soon to be in two sizes. I have three sizes but one isn't needed. But two def are.

I'm telling Isaac.

 

[5cardstud]

I'm telling Isaac.

He already knows. Check this out.

 

[Modrod.]

Of course he knows, Mr. Fusionman beta tester.

Is the tallest XXL?

 

[5cardstud]

He was going to go with one of the longer ones. I'm pretty sure your going to see the longest one in stock soon. It fits in the longest tank I got. We have been wanting Mega Fusions since the fusion came out.

 

[dmako]

Congratz Exodus and welcome! I'm jealous of you awaiting your new BP, and you got it in my new favorite color! You better not tell me what part of CT you're in or I might end up on your door step to see that new BP and tank

You gave some good suggestions, I guess we'll all used to most folks coming here to ask questions before they pull the trigger. I'm glad you figured things out, but remember that we're always here if you have any more questions

Lot of CT people here, I'm also from CT!

 

[Bovinia]

Hey Dmako! You know it's funny...we have quite a few vapers here in CT but I've never run into any other vapers except the few I've converted. But then, Manchester ain't all that big and I don't get out much

Welcome to our funny farm!

J, I think Mike decided not to sell the pre punched cartos, he probably just forgot to update the site with everything he has going on right now. I'm not having any vapor issues with my Boges, do you think you aren't getting enough juice feed? How does the top of your carto look...wet, dry? I'm bummed for you

 

[5cardstud]

I punced one and kept getting dry hits so I thought the hole was too small but upon looking at it I saw the hole was right next to the bottom seal. I moved the hole up next time I put a new carto in and it works great. I think the closer to the heating element the better it is. But who knows. I'm not a carto punching expert, I'm just punch drunk.
The design of the M1A1 is the best there is. For some reason they work better than any other tank I've used. I had to do something until I ordered a new M1A1 tank so I cut up a 10cc syringe I had and put the M1A1 ends on it and it worked perfect. Even with this Joe Magee Tank piece on it the M1A1 out performs any of my other tanks so it has to be in the design.

 

[JGD]

I hope I explained my situation correctly... my tank is now a 1"/ I cut it down from 1.5 to a 1" without an issue or any leakage. It's the lack of consistency in the vaping that has me confused. It goes from giving me great hits, to leaking in my mouth to not vaping at all. My Chibi (which only lasted 3 days) worked better than this tank has thus far. I know as a newbie it's ME doing something wrong, I just can;t figure out what it is. I've moved the tank around and moving the holes up higher actually seemed create more leakage in my mouth. But I need to buy the correct tip.... any links or ideas on what tip would be best for the Boge with the M1A1 tank? I get a constant wheezing from my tip. But the tip works with a Boge normally, so it seems odd to me.
WIll those cartos you guys posted work with a Riva 510? And, if so, where do I buy them??

Thanks everyone!!!

* I used a dremel-like tool ( a Foredom flex shaft) for my first attept at punching but the drill bit popped through and punctured the inner tube. All of our more expensive jewelry equipment resulted in similar results. In the end, a screw and an anvil worked the best. But I'm not getting the air bubbles... which makes me think the holes STILL aren't big enough? But how can I have holes that are too small with small leakages from time to time? Getting a bit of juice in my mouth is really yucky! Could that be a tip issue?

 

[JGD]

*Also, I;ve heard of people sawing slots instead of drilling holes. I have mini diamond saw blades for my dremel/flex shaft. Is that an option I should consider? DO any of you buy pre-punched cartos? I want one just to see if the carto is the issue...and for comparison purposes. Ecigs show one on thier front page but don;t seem to actually have them for sale?

 

[5cardstud]

That screw will get you in trouble if you tighten it to tight. It warps the tank enough to let air in and that causes juice to leak out. This thing is a trial and error but once you get it right it is Saweeeet. Remember tanks are an add on and cartos weren't made for tanks although they do work great in them. I use Fusions in my tanks and I won't vape without a tank now. It keeps a constant flow to the coils so it's like vaping a freshly filled carto every time. I slotted mine for quite awhile but got too lazy to go to the shop in the cold to slot them so I just use an Awl and Hammer. I have also drilled them and used a hacksaw. It doesn't matter how you do it as long as you get a hole in it to feed juice through. I put the hole in the carto. Then I fill the carto just like I did before tanks came to be with the bottom condom on. Then I put the carto (Fusion in my case) in the tank, fill the tank, put the screw back in. BTW, I shortened the screw in mine so it doesn't touch the carto.Then I'm good untill tomorrow. I have MAP tanks, Round ball tanks, Some other tank I got somewhere and the M1A1 and it works the best. I just got done ordering another 1.5 and a new tube for my 1.0. The juice you use makes a difference too. Cartos don't work well with thick juice.
Right now I'm vaping on a home made box mod, Variable voltage that has been dropped so many times it now has masking tape holding it together with an M1A1 that has a Syringe piece for the tube and it works like a million bucks. But not like my Buzz pro did before I messed it up and fried my M1A1. But like I said I got stuff coming to be regulation Buzz Pro and M1A1 vaping again.

 

[JGD]

Yeah, I figured out the screw issue right away when I had some leakage at the bottom of the tank. How long did you make your slots? One slot or two? Would you say a 1mm hole is a good size for drilling? Is one hole good enough or do two work better? Is the tip you use of crucial importance?

 

[Bovinia]

J, you just need to use a regular 510 drip tip on your Boge cartos. I'm a bit perplexed as to why you are getting juice in your mouth and the only thing that comes to mind (along with the wheezing you describe) is that your tip is not seating completely in your carto. Or maybe you just have a bad carto

You could try using your rotary tool with the cutting wheel to slot a carto and see if that makes any difference. Welcome to MadVapes LLC has a lot of drip tips and they carry pre punched cartos if they aren't out of stock. I don't know anything about the Riva so I can't advise you there. Have you tried asking on the vendor forum where you bought your Riva?

We want to get you happy with your tank, so keep asking until we get you figured out

The Fusions come from http://ikenvape.com/store/ but you will need a 510 to 801 adapter to use them with your Riva

 

[JGD]

Thanks very, very much for all the great info and advice!

 

[5cardstud]

When I used the dremmel to slot mine I would stop as soon as it penetrated the carto. then I would open it a little with a pick because if you get them too big you get gurgling and juice in your mouth. I grew up in the inch foot era and MM to me are greek. Just make a hole about 1.mm or about the size of the 18 guage syringe needle I use to fill my tanks. It's about 4 inches long with a blunt end. I got it with an ink cartridge refill kit and it works great for filling tanks. I know

Anyway just get a hole about that size in it and fill it, then the tank.

 

[Bovinia]

If you decide to try the Fusions, they use a 510 size drip tip even tho they have an 801 bottom fitting. I get most of my adapters at either Madvapes or GoodProphets.com - Your View into the World of Vaping...