Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face
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Baditude eats, sleeps and poops batteries information. I don't understand why people want to skimp on buying quality batteries and chargers. This is usually the #1 cause of an accident. I still have by first 2 sets of VTC5's that I rotate daily and use a quality charger that I've been using well over a year now. I only ever discharged on battery so far, and that was due to wrap discoloration. I did at one point try purple efest batteries in a regulated mod... and they didn't last, even with proper care.
Spend the money and get good quality batteries. It's not like you will be buying them every month if you take care of them and use a quality charger.
I see you have been around for less then a year. Venting and blowups have been going on since 2010, and they are happening with increasing frequency as people have pushed the limits. As always happens with these types of situations, it is very likely we are hearing of a small percentage of the actual events.
As I said in my original statement, a voluntary withdrawal of mechs is not going to happen. There is just to much money to be made as the profit margins are high with mechs. I am fully aware of reality. The real pretend world is thinking we can educate users on safer use of mechs to the point where it is not a problem. With a new generation of users every few months, it's not going to happen.
The reality is that these events will continue to happen, and it will continue to be a big problem for those of us advocating for THR. The only real hope is that mechs fall out of favor to the point where few are using them.
If you do really believe that your mechs are safer then a well designed regulated, as in Provari or Evolv, that constantly monitors battery health, you have crawled a long way down the rabbit hole of delusion. Certainly not someone I would trust to give me good advice.
I know of no one on this thread that has called for a ban, though this is the second time you have claimed it.
Your comparison to trucks is a bit bizarre, but instructive in its own way. Of course it is illegal for teenagers to drive a large truck (you actually need a special license to drive one), but essentially anyone can buy a mech and use one, including teens. I am really not at all sure what the point is.
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I know this post wasn't to me, but I'm going to comment anyway.
Why 2010? I imagine venting and blow-up incidents occurred before that, albeit to a lesser extent. And while some people are certainly pushing the limits of vaping (as they will push the limits of anything), I think the frequency is due more to the number of people who vape. As far as what we hear about...I guess it might depend on the type of event, the extent of damage and how busy the news day is. E-Cigarettes are a hot topic right now (yes, pun), but I haven't read any media stories about chargers catching fire, which I've read reports of happening on forums.
We will now return to the regularly scheduled thread.
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Warning to public well then do they tell the public the mod the tank the battery the resistance ?
I don't recall anything happening before 2010, which if memory serves me right is when the first mech came out (though it could have been late 09). This was long before low resistance, in fact long before anyone even thought of building their own coils. It was all pre-made atomizers, usually running at somewhere between 2 and 3 Ohms. The mechs where stacked, usually 2.5 volt Li-Po's (or whatever they are called) for a 5 volt hit. I think they also had standard non-stacked. It is all a bit fuzzy as I wasn't doing it.I know this post wasn't to me, but I'm going to comment anyway.
Why 2010? I imagine venting and blow-up incidents occurred before that, albeit to a lesser extent. And while some people are certainly pushing the limits of vaping (as they will push the limits of anything), I think the frequency is due more to the number of people who vape. As far as what we hear about...I guess it might depend on the type of event, the extent of damage and how busy the news day is. E-Cigarettes are a hot topic right now (yes, pun), but I haven't read any media stories about chargers catching fire, when I've read reports of it happening on forums.
We will now return to the regularly scheduled thread.
I can't remember the name of the USA company that made them (as far as I know they where all made in the USA), but I believe they went out of business after they got sued when one of there devices blew up and caused some serious injury.
Sorry about being so vague, but it was a long time ago and I couldn't even dig it up in the archives.
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a hard short occurs when the negative part of the case ( for example the 510 threads - side) touches the + tab of the battery.... a cut in the wrapper goes into auto fire
Please don't take this as I am arguing with you. I meant it seemed logical to me that as long as there have been e-cigarettes there must have been electrical problems of some kind with the components, just like any other electronic device. I did a quick search using 2008 as one of the terms and got results. While the incidents certainly didn't reach the magnitude of damage what's been reported recently, or, perhaps, the frequency of events involving mechanicals, I think they support my theory that regulated devices can give people a false sense of security and chargers should be recognized as a potential fire hazard.
(The links aren't directed at you, but rather anyone curious about vaping history.)
My Kissbox battery caught fire!! | E-Cigarette Forum
my experience with E-Cig.com | E-Cigarette Forum
Take Care !! | E-Cigarette Forum
Unrelated, but cracked me up: "...a decent sized e smoking device could be made around three AAA sized cheap metal hydride off the shelf batteries.. these would give 760 ma at 3.6 volts and work way better than the micky mouse cr-ap we now have."
hmmm okayyy seems to me that mechs arent the problem, its the batteries that explode...
but I have an idea a built in one shot fuze... you exceed the batteries set limit and the fuze opens up, and therefore you have to buy another battery... think Ill invest some money in Sony, Samsung, etc ( Im gonna get rich )
but I have an idea
a built in one shot fuze... you exceed the batteries set limit and the fuze opens up, and therefore you have to buy another battery... think Ill invest some money in Sony, Samsung, etc ( Im gonna get rich )
hmmm okayyy seems to me that mechs arent the problem, its the batteries that explode...
but I have an idea
The Panasonic NCR18650A and NCR18650B have something like that, but it auto-resets. Extraordinary protection in those cells. Go over a certain current limit or cell temperature and it shuts off the current for a few seconds. I tried everything I could to damage those cells but was unable to, including a 5 hour short circuiting. I removed the short, waited a minute, and then put it back in the holder and it acted like nothing happened.
Just wish it was available on higher current cells. Probably would be too large though.
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I'm a wimp with my mechs: roughly 1.2Ω and AW button top batteries. Blasphemy amongst real mech vapers, but I like a cool vape and they are pretty.
The only hardware limited in NL are tanks that have more than 2ml capacity. There is no regulation concerning batteries or batteryholders (regulated or non-) in the TPD or local Dutch regulation, other than what was already being regulated under Consumer Goods and electronics legislation. Only time will tell whether that's good or bad...
Yes, the reason is stupid politicians who don't understand anything about the subject they are making the rules for.
Next year this rule will be in affect across the entire EU.....as wil be the rule that we can't buy liquids with nicotine in bottles larger than 10ml
There is a lawsuite against this legislation pending on 1st of october....but I don't expect much of this.....so we are obliged to buy our good stuff abroad
I'm sure there is. Not that you or me would find it reasonable.
Reasons not based on reason can not be reasoned with. A good ol' 2-Minute Hate is all it takes to aim the sentimental mob in the Right Direction. Either you're with us - or you want cruel things to happen to Our Children.
With this protection in place they can only vape 2ml of Pure Evil before having to switch cartos. "Thank God".
This may not be THE reason. It's simply the best reason this cynical mind could come up with.
/rant off
(I'm secretly wondering how many currently politically active vapers fall for the same trick on topics they're not themselves involved with. Like anyone opposed to surveillance and logging of all digital communication being labeled as pedophile terrorist pirates.)
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sounds like they are trying to limit the total amount of juice on hand that can cause a potential poisoning....
I've rigged up adapters using 3 inch bolts and rubber washers to fit inside tube mods in place of a battery, then connect that to ac/dc adapters.
No battery to explode.
Do I get the superwimp award?
Stay away from the cans!!!! He hates these cans!!!!
the e-cigarette industry has been in the cross hairs of the government most notably the FDA
since 2007. this is when only cigalikes were around. The problems with the batteries,flavorings,coils
and wicking materials that have surfaced as the hardware advances are of little or no account to
the FDA. They are going to drop a big rock on us. Of course they will cite every reason they can as
an excuse but, even if there were only cigalikes all they have to do is utter two words. "the chillin'".
Game over.
regards
mike
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