You mentioned a car, not me. You seem to support cops abusing their authority to those that don't fully understand their rights. You also seem to put security guards above the law as well. Are you a crooked cop?
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You mentioned a car, not me. You seem to support cops abusing their authority to those that don't fully understand their rights. You also seem to put security guards above the law as well. Are you a crooked cop?
So now a maybe laser pointer should be handled like a maybe gun? Is that how you were trained?
(And I'm assuming in Ohio gun possession is generally illegal. In PA guns are legal and lots of folks carry them. Saying a guy has a gun without saying what he's doing with it isn't saying much)
Re read the article.
"Grabbed by the neck and dragged"
Were the exact words of the victim.
Awful lot of conclusions being drawn from that article. There isn't enough information to be certain what happened...
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How do you mean? A person was attacked without any evidence. The security guard isn't behind bars after a violent attack even though there should have been officers present.
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That's just silly.
Let's see no cops involved as identified as such. Support good cops? Fully. I don't put anyone above the law. But I guess you believe anything that happens when reported is truth. A 4 paragraph article is enough for you. Thats fine I prefer intellectual discussions.
Hillary said she dodged sniper fire. Humans exaggerate. Media inflates it more.
I am not comming to any conclusion other than more info is needed before we draw and quarter the guard.
I am not saying that. I was drawing a comparison which a resonance person would see.
No, gun ownership is not illegal in ohio as defined by my concealed carry permit. It is illegal to take one into an establishment that clearly states no guns.
Again it was a comparison made to show a point. Even a simpleton could glean that.
Trained? I am an accountant that knows business law. That is how I was trained. I do know the basics rights and wrongs. It is called a reasonable person.
As I said, I don't want to armchair quarterback the incident. Nothing good EVER comes out of that. But I would definitely find out what was going on, and why he reacted the way he did.
You have to remember, there are 3 sides to every story. His side, the other persons side, and the truth. We don't know all of the cicumstances of the incident. Security guard authority, impairment level of the person, agression of the person if there was any, etc.
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So you are saying that there were no cops at the event? I doubt that. A good cop would have arrested the security guard. So there were obviously no good cops there. That is self explanatory as there is no such thing as a good cop today. So it would seem that you support crooked cops.
It seems pretty obvious. A security guard with no real authority manhandled someone they shouldn't have and wasn't arrested.
How do you mean? The venue has tried to bribe the victim. That doesn't imply that the security guard didn't do anything wrong, quite the opposite.
That's a cop out!
( see what I did there?)
Well you said you enjoyed the questions, and invited more so I asked.
We are only discussing the article, not testifying in court, which is why I added the qualifiers. None of us know all the facts.
However,
You know as well as I do the guard can't grab someone by the neck and drag them away for simply having a vape (or laser pointer) at a concert.
That's illegal.
Which is the whole Point of this debate.
It started when I said security guards are not LEO and do not have the authority to "grab" victims " by the neck" for having a vape at a concert.
Or a laser pointer.
Judging SOLELY on the article and the statement by the victim in said article, then I agree the security guard is in the wrong. But here's where I say there are 3 sides. We have not heard what the guard has to say nor any independent witnesses to the incident. All we have is one side, and that's assuming he's telling the ABSOLUTE truth.That's a cop out!
( see what I did there?)
Well you said you enjoyed the questions, and invited more so I asked.
We are only discussing the article, not testifying in court, which is why I added the qualifiers. None of us know all the facts.
However,
You know as well as I do the guard can't grab someone by the neck and drag them away for simply having a vape (or laser pointer) at a concert.
That's illegal.
Which is the whole Point of this debate.
It started when I said security guards are not LEO and do not have the authority to "grab" victims " by the neck" for having a vape at a concert.
Or a laser pointer.
Thats where the investigation needs to take place. And when I say "independent witnesses" I mean not other security guards and not the guys friends. Theyre tainted. Friends take up for friends, co-workers take up for co-workers. Thats just reality sorry to say.
Like the "cop-out" by the way! [emoji6]
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I took your user name bluecat to mean you're a sworn Leo. Ok, you're not. Got it.
No. Just a die hard kentucky wildcats fan. Blue is the color and cat well goes without saying.
All this talk of lawsuits. What's a red neck worth money wise? Even if he wins, what are the damages? The value of the concert tickets? His pride? My guess is no attorney would take the case and the venue will offer him a few $1000...
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