Manual vs Automatic batter?

[ScottP]

So far I have only vaped with automatic screw on type batteries and cartomizers. I am now using Boge XXL LR cartos but it is time to get new batteries. So I was wondering what are the advantages and disadvantages to manual and automatic type batteries? How exactly do the manual batteries work? Do you hold the button down while using or is it an on/off button?

What about battery brand? Is there a clearly superior brand? I did buy a Smoktech battery recently but my old charger doesn't work for it. New charger is coming in the mail. I prefer batteries about the diameter of a standard cigarette (length not as important) not some big magic marker looking thing.

 

[rielevilnside]

I would recommend from experience getting an ego kit. suggestions for this would be an ego twist or some kind of ego 510 connection ecig battery. Remember the more mah the better.

Also the difference between the auto and manual is that if you flood an auto batt you can damage it and or make it not functional. with a manual battery you are given a little more wiggle room and if you flood it you can just clean out the connection and get back to vaping.


How the Auto battery works? - You pull/inhale on it and there is a switch if you will that when the vacuum is applied to it, the ecig is turned on and vaping. When the holes for the airflow are blocked and gooed up from juice getting inside the vacuum is hindered and it doesn't work as well and can stick on or off.

How a manual battery works? - You push and hold the button on for as long as you take a drag. then let go. it takes a bit of getting used to but in my opinion I like both types. I still use my Auto 808 Smoov ecig kit. And I have an ego twist and a volcano Inferno. I would say if you got the money get a Provari. It is a big step in the right direction for battery life as well as the options you have to play with to find your sweet spot. I hope this helps ya out! Good luck!

 

[carrotcake]

You have to hold it. I've switched to manual, less delay, less breaking. With auto, they have to have a hole where juice can enter and break your battery. Manual is sealed.

The battery brand usually has to match the atomizer you use. I just got Halo G6 white 72mm manual batteries and tan blank cartomizers. I'm going to use it as a my outside piece since it looks like a cigarette. I'm using Aroma WTA juice. Ego T 1100mah for home use.

 

[John Alexander]

It took me a while, but when I got the hang of it, I totally preferred the manual.

 

[Kevin Brown]

best worlds is to buy it all

but when working and vaping a 808 auto battery is the bees knees with a soft tip on.
the huffing while concentrated on a project is sublime
no smoke in eye pain and it huffs so well on an auto i was blown away
200% better than an analog
a manual is preferred for everything else

 

[Aceman12]

Manual will last longer before breaking because they're sealed. I used vapor 4 life batteries. Solid little batteries for the look alikes. I think the smoketechs are a safe bet though. You do owe it to yourself to try an ego though. They only look like the small sharpies...

 

[Oktyabr]

Years ago, when I first started experimenting with e-cigs, all we had were expensive "automatics". One of the big reasons why I didn't quit smoking cigarettes back then is because the automatic design is very fragile and prone to failure, as others have said. Manual switch on a variable voltage battery all the way....

 

[NatashaR]

GO manual, and get something w/ adjustable volts or watts. I too started w/ an auto battery of a cig size and swore I'd never go bigger... that lasted a month. Would not go back there for the world now. I like the Vision Spinner for a VV. The VAMO w/out the extension for a VW. Just a HUGE world of difference in vape cloud and taste. With a Kanger Pro Tank on top!

 

[carrotcake]

There seems to be "sealed" autos coming out but I don't know how they work. The battery may be sealed but the sensor never can be. Doesn't matter if the battery is protected if the sensor goes bad.

 

[Katya]

So far I have only vaped with automatic screw on type batteries and cartomizers. I am now using Boge XXL LR cartos but it is time to get new batteries. So I was wondering what are the advantages and disadvantages to manual and automatic type batteries? How exactly do the manual batteries work? Do you hold the button down while using or is it an on/off button?

What about battery brand? Is there a clearly superior brand? I did buy a Smoktech battery recently but my old charger doesn't work for it. New charger is coming in the mail. I prefer batteries about the diameter of a standard cigarette (length not as important) not some big magic marker looking thing.

Hi Scott and welcome to ECF!

I don't know what kind of batteries you're using right now, but I suspect they are Joye 510--or a 510 clone/knockoff, since you're using Boge cartos.

It really depends on what you need; generally speaking, manual batteries give you much more control over your vape, as you activate your battery with your finger and heat up the coil before you take a puff, thus eliminating the need to "suck the milkshake through a straw" syndrome associated with many automatic batteries. When my friend Oktyabr and I first started, the autos were horrible, so most of us switched to manuals. In my case, it took me 1/2 hr to get used to the button. But others prefer autos.

New automatic batteries are much better, many come sealed and the draw has been improved dramatically. The latest Joyetech auto eRoll is widely popular among new and experienced users.

If you want to try a manual, get a Joyetech 510 280 mAh battery and see how you like it.

There are also kr808 batteries, both auto and manual, that are very popular, like SI Volt series. Look them up--just remember that they are not compatible with 510 connection, so you'll have to get a battery and a charger and some kr808 cartomizers.

Good luck.

 

[ScottP]

Thanks all for your responses. Very helpful indeed.

@ Katya,
280 mAh battery? I thought higher mA was better, most people seem to recommend 650-900mA

 

[Katya]

Thanks all for your responses. Very helpful indeed.

@ Katya,
280 mAh battery? I thought higher mA was better, most people seem to recommend 650-900mA

Cigalikes only come in 280 (maybe 300+ if it's an XXL).

If you want 650 mAh, you have to get a fatty. Yup, they look like sharpies, but they are not very big.

 

[Katya]

Size comparison.

 

[ScottP]

I think I might could handle sharpie size, but some of the rigs I have seen posted on this site look more like lightsabers. I do think I should always have at least one light weight auto around because when I am doing something with my hands, I can still smoke hands free like a real cig but I think I might give a manual a try.

Another battery question too. If you have a passthrough and the battery itself completely dies and will no longer hold a charge, can you still use it to vape while plugged in? I would assume so but wondered if anyone knew for sure. Also is the SmokTech Passthrough 900 mAh a good battery or should I look for a different brand? I would be willing to pay more for an initial setup, if I can replace the batteries semi-cheaply instead of having to buy a whole new setup every few months.

Is there such a thing as a reasonably small (sharpie size) battery that is both passthrough and has internal interchangeable batteries?

Sorry for all the questions but I am in the market for a new setup since my original battery seems to be on it's last leg after just a few months. I am looking for the right combination of portability, acceptable vapor levels, and longevity.

 

[Katya]

One question at a time.

I love eGoTwists and my Spinners, see picture above. They offer variable voltage, portability, and they come in different lengths. The best medium size e-cig money can buy. I don't want a big mod either.

The best PTs are made, IMO, by Joyetech. There are several types, the one I like and recommend is the PT with detachable battery; your battery is charging while you're vaping, and if you need to go somewhere, just unscrew the battery and take it with you. The best of both worlds.

There is a new eGo that comes with replaceable batteries, I think it's the third one from the left in the picture, but I've never heard of such a battery in PT.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/401814-ego-rs.html#post9173150

 

[DavidOck]

You mentioned you preferred the "pencil" size batteries....

Madvapes carries them in sized up to 350 mAh, which will last a lot longer than the standard ones (usually 150 - 180). They have both auto and manual for 510 connections, not sure about 808.

Yep, autos can be killed by leaking juice, but they are great for hands free vaping.

The suggestions for something like the Spinner are spot on. About a Sharpie size, VV, and even the 1300 isn't overly large.

 

[chrisrook]

I prefer manual batteries myself. It used to be that was easily available in any size. Heck, my friends first kit was a manual 510. More though required, but we enjoyed them. I think I read somewjere over a year ago that manual batteries let you vape for longer before shut off (at the time, 5 seconds for auto and 8 seconds for manual.) I don't think this is the case anymore though. I haven't tried it yet, but I don't think auto batteries will let you use a rebuildable. The auto switch relies on the passing of air over it, without an air hole in the bottom of the atty, there is no air flow. Either way, it's your choice, and if you've never used a manual battery, give it a try. Worst case scenario you have a back up battery.

 

[ScottP]

I think I have decided on trying out the SmokTech Passthrough 900 mAh I mentioned previously. I have decided on this because it is cheap and I am not sure I am going to like manual yet, so I don't want to jump into an expensive test. Also it is available from a source I already have an account with and I don't like giving my credit card info to everyone on the internet.

So now the next item I need to decide on. A tank. I would like to find a decent entry level tank that will fit this battery without hanging over the sides. In other words the tank needs to be the same width as the battery or slightly less, not wider. Looking for something that will not leak in my pocket. Cheap replacement parts is a plus. Any suggestions here?

 

[StainlessB8]

Manual is my preference.

 

[Katya]

So now the next item I need to decide on. A tank. I would like to find a decent entry level tank that will fit this battery without hanging over the sides. In other words the tank needs to be the same width as the battery or slightly less, not wider. Looking for something that will not leak in my pocket. Cheap replacement parts is a plus. Any suggestions here?

The only tank I know (except for SmokTch DCC, which has some problems with leaking) that fits eGo-class batteries is the Boge f15. I got mine at VapeLite--4 bucks.

BOGE F15 TANK CARTOMIZER 1 ML - $4.00 : VapeLite your source for Boge quality electronic cigarettes, Boge electronic cigarettes

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