MaxX Fusion: Finally, a VAPABLE supermini!

[Turbo]

Does anyone know who the manufacturer is for the bloog max fusion cartos. I'd like some for my ego in a 510 and a supplier said he would track them down if I found out who made them.

I've heard the 'Eigate' makes them, but I'm sure other companies are knocking them off, if they are the original manufacturer that is...

 

[son et lumiere]

Thanks Turbo.

 

[springtime]

"These batteries are compatible with virtually all Kr8 and GreenCig cartomizers and with 901 atomizers."


I really like my Bloog Maxxfusion batteries, however they are not working with my 901 atomizer. I have other KR8 batteries (Premium, Smoketip) that work just fine with my atty. When I screw my atomizer onto the Bloog battery and take a draw, the blue led lights up but the atty never even gets warm, much less produce vapor. What's wrong?

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

I don't know, springtime. I don't use 901 attys that much, but I just put one on my Bloog and VOLT batteries and it works OK on each. [Notice I say "OK." the voltage of those batteries and resistance of their cartomizers are carefully matched. For me at least, a regular resistance 901 needs higher voltage (minimum: true 3.7V, i.e., starting at 4.2V fully charged) to vape well.]

 

[waylonjessi4ever]

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This is a review of Bloog’s MaxX Fusion Mini PCC Kit. I received the kit two weeks ago free of charge for the purpose of writing this review … and you know what I (and all reviewers in this situation) say next. In addition, you deserve to know that Bloog is an advertiser on CyberWolf’s and my VapingGuides.com website. However, we benefit from that only if you were to use the discount code shown on that site … and I will not include that code in this review. Instead, you can use the “LEAFORD” code of equivalent 10% off value (from which we do not benefit).

I will mention what I know about other variations of the MaxX Fusion, but this review focuses on the Mini PCC Kit that I received. I will be comparing the Maxxy (as I affectionately call it) primarily to Vapor4Life’s Vapor King, because: it is the best known and leading Kr8 supplier … both brands are pricier than most (other than the mass-marketed rip-offs, which these are not) … and Kr8 cartomizer guru, Leaford, influenced the design and manufacture of the most recent versions of each brand.

Although much has been written or videoed about this new Bloog product in a very short period of time – here on ECF and elsewhere – there are very few photos of it (even on Bloog’s website) … and I’m no photographer. I’ve tried to pull together what I can. [Thanks go to GrimmGreen for the priceless facial expression below as well as for the photo at the top and a couple more toward the end, all of which I ripped from his video review.]

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The Cliff Notes

My reviews and articles can be long-winded. Here’s the short version:

• MaxX Fusion kits and parts are a bit pricey … but worth it IMO. [Add “if you can afford it” to all of the following.]

• If you are just starting out and want a good e-cig that looks and feels like a “real” cigarette – go buy the MaxX Fusion Mini PCC Kit.

• If you want a vapable super-mini – go buy the Mini PCC Kit.

• If you want the simplest, most convenient e-cig – go buy any Kr8, the best of which is the MaxX Fusion.

• If you want the best performing Kr8 cartomizers – buy these Maxxy cartos.

• If you want the large capacity (2ml+) cartomizers that are so popular these days – buy a Tank or clearomizer or something … or wait a couple weeks for the 4ml Leo cartos to become available.

• If you want the best performing skinny and/or automatic battery (regardless of model) – buy these Maxxy batts … and, if needed, get a $1 adapter from Good Prophets to use with your favorite atty or carto.

• If you want 650+ mAh – go buy a fat batt or mod (then stick a MaxX Fusion carto on it). [If you want it to have a smooth, rich taste, make that fat batt a Leo.]

The Specs

The MaxX Fusion is a cartomizer-based, Kr8-compatible e-cig, available with either a “Standard” 78mm battery (yielding an assembled mini-sized e-cig 118 mm long) or a “Mini” 65mm battery (yielding an assembled supermini-sized e-cig 103mm long). That is, pretty much the same sizes as the Vapor King Regular and Shorty shown in this photo illustration by Birdy:

[NOTE: MaxX Fusion batteries are a bit shorter than their Vapor King counterparts, but the cartomizers are slightly longer.]
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The Mini PCC Kit

This kit contains all the boxes and items shown in the above photo, i.e., two 65mm batteries (in the available color of your choice), five prefilled cartomizers (in the available flavor and nicotine level of your choice), a unique Mini PCC (with replaceable battery) and USB charging cord for it, and a small manual for the e-cig and for the PCC. [I don’t remember receiving the pouches in the photo, but then I didn’t pay for this kit, did I.]
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Bloog's kit sells for $90, i.e., the same price as V4L’s Vapor King Ultimate Ultimatum Shorty Kit – roughly comparable, but with a manual USB passthrough (available from LiteCigUSA for $11) substituted for the special features of Bloog’s PCC.

Batteries

All batteries sold by Bloog (other than the new Trifecta, not covered in this review) are automatic switch. Whatever the technology used, MaxX Fusion auto batteries do not require a primer puff or an extended draw to activate. According to FieldOfVapor, they have a 5-7 second cutoff. [I wouldn’t know; I’ve never reached it.]

Like other Kr8s, both battery sizes are true nominal 3.7V (4.2V fully charged) – more than any other skinny or fat batt. [EDIT: Leaford has just informed me that, unlike other Kr8s, a built-in "voltage regulation function...provides a steady 3.6 volts, from full charge until right before it is fully discharged." This probably explains the consistent puff-to-puff performance and why some have had problems using Maxxy cartos on other Kr8 batts.]

The “Standard” battery is 320 mAh: 40 mAh higher than any other Kr8. The “Mini” battery is 220 mAh: 40 mAh higher than the Vapor King “Shorty” batt. These are the highest mAh of any skinny batt of their respective length. When purchased separately from a kit, batteries cost $20 (either size): $3.50 more than Vapor King batteries. Available colors are black, white, silver, red, and blue. [As I write this, all the shorter batteries seem to be out of stock. EDIT: I've just been assured that they will be back in stock by the end of the month.]

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These batteries are compatible with virtually all Kr8 and GreenCig cartomizers and with 901 atomizers. [The only exception I found was a V4L Cool Cart that didn’t screw in all the way.]

Cartomizers

As mentioned above, MaxX Fusion cartomizers are a couple mm longer than most Kr8 cartos. They hold 1 ml of juice. That’s more than most Kr8 cartomizers, but less than a MEGA eGO carto or Tank. [You could squeeze 1.2 ml in there but Leaford doesn’t advise it.] br5495 took one apart and found polyfill that wraps around a long wick. However it works, the carto is less subject to burning than other Kr8 cartomizers.

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They can be filled easily by dripping into the mouthpiece end (with or without removing the large-holed pop off cap) or by using Doggsbody’s carto cap (a.k.a. condom) technique from the battery end. When I’m at my desk, I use the carto cap method: I can get more e-liquid in that way and more quickly.

[This photo illustration from iesmoker.com is the best one I could find of the technique. Shown is a male-connector 510 carto, but it works equally well with the female connector Kr8 cartomizers.]​

When I’m out and about, I top it off as needed by dripping in the hole in the mouthpiece or battery end. [NOTE: Unscrew the carto from the battery first, then wipe it dry before screwing back on. Automatic batteries like these are not sealed. They can’t be – it’s the suck that turns them on.]
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[Annotated photo courtesy of jayvap33.]​

Others have written that Maxxy cartos can be refilled a great many times without tasting nasty. I can only partially confirm that, since (after two weeks) I have not yet hit the yucky wall on any of the three cartos I have in rotation (filled with different flavors). [Update: As I put the finishing touches to this review, the vapor from my most used and refilled carto is diminishing and starting to taste “off.”]

All MaxX Fusion cartomizers are black. The prefilled ones sell for $11 (a few cents more than V4L Wow cartos) in any of 12 flavors: Reds, Kamel, RY4, 555, Menthol, Spearmint, Vanilla, Chocolate, Coffee, Cherry, Grape, and Apple. So: fewer choices than V4L’s huge selection, but the basics are covered. Blank cartos sell for $10: $1 more than V4L Wow blanks.

Maxxy cartos work – and work well – on all Kr8 automatic batteries. I don’t have a manual Kr8 skinny battery to test them on, but they work very well on my manual Elegant Easy Kr8 fat batt.

Mini PCC

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Bond, James Bond!

I’ll let FieldOfVapor demonstrate and describe this lightweight, nifty-looking PCC:

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To clarify and/or reinforce:

• The Mini PCC only accepts the shorter MaxX Fusion batts. I think even V4L’s Shorty’s would be too long to fit in the slot provided.

• The indicator lights work just fine … except for the e-cig battery charge level (which always shows as full).

• The reason the Mini PCC is so lightweight is that the casing is plastic. It seems pretty sturdy to me and I’ve had no problems (even though I carry it in my back pocket) nor have I heard of any breakages. Time will tell how its durability compares to the metal casing of the standard Kr8 PCC.

• To start the battery charging process, you need to press the button for about 3 seconds (until the battery charge indicator on the left side of the window starts moving back and forth). [Easy enough, but I went for a day wondering why the batteries weren’t recharging. I finally broke down and glanced through the little PCC manual. Duh! Right there in black and white.] Do as I say; not as I did.

The Experience

My experience with and assessment of the Mini PCC Kit is similar to GrimmGreen’s:

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Unlike him, however, I’m vaping this far more than 1% of the time. After a couple days of conscientious testing (e.g., trying various combinations of MaxX Fusion and other batts and cartos and attys), I’ve just been vaping this for personal enjoyment. I find myself reaching for my Maxxy just as frequently as my Leo and my ProVape-1 (with a 901 atty). Each provides a satisfying, but different, experience.

Whatever the technology and resistance level that is used, MaxX Fusion cartomizers generate more vapor than any carto or atty that I’ve ever used at 3.7V (with the possible exception of an LR 306 I tried once and an extraordinary 901 atty I’ve also been vaping these past two weeks).

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The throat hit is solid (i.e., strong without being harsh). The taste is similar to Vapor King Wow and Premium cartos, i.e., without the unpleasant undertaste of most Kr8 cartomizers, but nothing to write home about.

I’ve only tried two of the prefilled flavors. The Reds do taste very much like what I remember an analog cigarette tasted like – that’s great for a new vaper, but not so great for me. [I did try to smoke an analog cigarette about a year ago, but couldn’t finish it. Revolting! But in fairness to these Reds cartos, the flavor is not nearly as offensive as I found that analog experiment to be.] The RY4 tastes somewhat like RY4 e-liquid, but not nearly as good as the US-made RY4 I’ve been vaping these days.

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What I find so staggeringly impressive is the size. My Leo and ProVape-1 (examples of high quality fat batts and mods, respectively) shown above are big. The Maxxy is so tiny. It’s particularly convenient when driving: no dripping required and hands-free operation. And it is a fun change of pace for me.


The Price for that Experience

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So what is the price to pay for this great performance in a small package?

• The selling price, of course. But I am not as put off by this as GrimmGreen. I view the MaxX Fusion Mini PCC Kit as the Lexus of Kr8’s and of superminis. You get what you pay for (assuming that you avoid ripoffs, which this certainly is not). Not everyone (e.g., not I) can afford a Lexus … but if you can, go for it!

• The mAh obviously. But with that PCC (or any Kr8 PCC), you can vape just as long without fixed position recharge as with a high-mAh fat batt or mod.

• The taste is about tie with V4L’s Premium and WOW cartomizers, i.e., not bad. But, for me, it doesn’t compare to the Leo, 801, or 901 atomizers.

Is It Worth It?

To Me?

On my very tight budget, will I order more Maxxy cartomizers when my current stock is depleted? I might. If I were in love with cartomizers (which I am not particularly), I definitely would keep ordering these – blank, for filling with my favorite e-liquids. Maxxy cartos are definitely worth the few extra cents.

Will I replace the batteries whenever they die. Probably not. Vaping a good supermini is fun, but I am primarily a fat batt/mod man. I’d rather spend that twenty bucks on two Leo attys. But, if you are a confirmed mini or supermini vaper, these are excellent skinny batts and may be worth the price.

Would I have purchased the Mini PCC? No. Although certainly lighter weight and fancier than the standard Kr8 PCC, this is more of an indulgence for me. On my limited budget, I’d probably use the Maxxy cartos on my 750 mAh Elegant Easy (a combination that vapes great by the way), avoiding the necessity of $20 batteries or any type of PCC.

To You?

Reread the Cliff Notes at the top of this review. In summary:

• If an initial investment of $90 (with ongoing expenses no more than any other PV) is not beyond your means – and you want an easy to use, excellent performing e-cig the size of a 100s cigarette – what are you waiting for? Why haven’t you bought this MaxX Fusion Mini PCC Kit already?*

* [A good answer is that the kit is out of stock as this review is posted. However, I’m sure that is a very temporary situation. Why else would they have asked so many of us to review it? EDIT: I've just been informed by Bloog that all their items (and others) will be in stock by the end of the month.]
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• If money is tight – but you like what I (and others) have had to say about the Maxxy cartomizers – consider a less expensive Kr8 kit, e.g., from LiteCigUSA or CigEasy. [If you want it to be supermini sized, get Vapor4Life’s Vapor King Shorty Value Kit.] Then order your MaxX Fusion cartomizers from Bloog. And use that LEAFORD coupon code to get 10% off.

In Conclusion

This is the e-cig that can draw the masses into vaping!​

I've always felt that the two-piece, cartomizer-based Kr8 was the type of PV that would do it. I think that Leaford may have actualized that potential with the MaxX Fusion "Mini" (actually, a super-mini).

As for the price, compare it to what are sold in the malls. [As an example, I see that, online, a two-battery Smoke51 DUO without PCC and with only two cartos sells for $150! Of course they do throw in a "Club 51 Membership Card" not included in Bloog's $90 kit.] Need I comment on the relative quality of the mall e-cigs and the MaxX Fusion (or virtually any model sold by ECF suppliers)?

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That concludes the serious review.

• If what you want is a big fat batt or mod with mega mAh and mega capacity tankomizers – why did you bother plowing through this page upon page of prosaic prose? I never even sang a song.

Oh wait … it’s not too late!

Tip: Start humming “Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear…” Snapping fingers is optional.

Want a super super-mini?
There is just one conclusion
It produces such great vapor
Yes that e-cig – MaxX Fusion!
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you state that the carts hold 1 ml " more then any cartos " but the ones i use from v4l DO hold 1 ml ....?????

 

[waylonjessi4ever]

My wife is still happy as a clam with her KR8 after over 15 months. She will take a puff off of one of my REO's once in a while, just to taste whatever I happen to be vaping, but she has absolutely no interest in a mod. I did get her a couple of PigCig batteries which she uses on occasion, but that's it.

how are the pigcigs ? i use kr808-ds now .I was looking at those !
and for mike : i wouldnt have quit smoking if i hadnt had the ease of use ( maintenqnce ) included of my 808's .Its not a chick thing ,its and ease thing .I dont care how it looks ,i care how it vapes .I also ,fyi buy juices from multiple sources and refill and drip too ! I didnt want an expensive hobby ,i wanted to quit smoking analogs .

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

you state that the carts hold 1 ml " more then any cartos " but the ones i use from v4l DO hold 1 ml ....?????

Based on my conversation with Leaford (who was involved with the development of both V4L's WOW cartos and Bloog's Maxx Fusion), my understanding is that the Maxxy (and now the VOLT BTW) are slightly longer than V4L's and most others. You can squeeze as much as 1 ml in the standard Kr8 and as much as 1.2 ml in the Maxxy ... although Leaford doesn't recommend such squeezing.

how are the pigcigs ? i use kr808-ds now .I was looking at those !
and for mike : i wouldnt have quit smoking if i hadnt had the ease of use ( maintenqnce ) included of my 808's .Its not a chick thing ,its and ease thing .I dont care how it looks ,i care how it vapes .I also ,fyi buy juices from multiple sources and refill and drip too ! I didnt want an expensive hobby ,i wanted to quit smoking analogs .

For a high-mAh Kr8 battery, I prefer the 1300 mAh Echo (which is an automatic BTW). I reviewed it here. BILLB OKC sells them via PM at the lowest prices. Vaping a Kr8 carto on it feels like I'm smoking a cigar (I find that I hold it the same way).

Or, with an inexpensive 510-to-808/901 adapter (e.g., $1 from Good Prophets), you can use any of the ubiquitous eGo-type fat batts. And, with such a fat batt, you can begin to explore (at your own pace) the wonderful world of 510 cartomizers, e.g., Smok Tech Dual Coils.

 

[prometheus]

Just saw your write up Don! No wonder I don't do these. I could never have done the Bloog justice like you did. Guess I will leave the reviews to the pros