MaxxFusion Burn tests coil temp test..silicone melt test..

[pmos69]

Sounds like a better carto design is needed. Something that should be easy to assemble and not unseat. The Clearomizers are interesting but they tend to leak I hear. We need to get some physicists that specialize in fluid dynamics. ;-)

Lots of problems with them, yes: YouTube - Kanger Clearomizer First Impressions (Carto-T)
Note: These are actually not clearomizers.

 

[cryx]

Again, as in the other thread, I think you're being a bit alarmist about formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is a natural substance present in the air, most food and drinks, and is produced in our bodies by normal metabolic processes. It's all a matter of the amount. I have a hard time believing that even in a worst case scenario that those little bits of silicon could produce enough formaldehyde to pose any hazard. Even if you outgassed all the potential formaldehyde in the silicon componants, it's probably less than what's in one analog cigarette, or than what's in your body right now as a metabolic byproduct. And definitley less than the industrial exposure that has been correlated with elevated cancer risk.

Yes, it's all about quantity, but that's not exactly the point here. More on that in a second.

Yes, the body produces trace formaldehyde. Heck, we contain a little of almost everything. No, formaldehyde is not in drinking water. The EPA has rarely detects it and they can measure less than 1ppb(illion). No, formaldehyde is not allowed in food (unless you enjoy eating chicken feed which recently received an exception). It does naturally occur in trace amounts of some foods such as mushroom, apples, onions. Even China has banned formaldehyde in their food. A few years ago, they shutdown 180 factories after they were found to be adding formaldehyde to food and candy.

However... This is all beside the point, and we are discussing the talking points of the chemical industry. Formaldehyde is not considered carcinogenic when -ingested-. It is a carcinogen when -inhaled-. Yes, there's probably more formaldehyde in a single cigarette (but I don't know that), but I thought we were all trying to evade the nasty stuff in cigs?

The real question is why is there even the possibility of a carcinogen being produced in these cartos when it could easily be avoided?

 

[VAPlN']

We do have to consider the reality that (especially for what is charged for a five pack of these cartos), they have to produce them relatively quickly to make a profit. Be prepared to pay more, if you are going to reduce the pieces per hour that can be produced. Not that people wouldn't pay more for a better product. I would appear that at least most of us would. But, Bloog has to compete with a lot of other companies for market share and from a business standpoint, there is a middle ground that has to be sought. This has to be a mass produced product to be viable. In my opinion, it is already superior to most of the other similar cartos that are out there. Without spending an inordinate amount of resources on each piece, they will likely not be able to obtain a 0% failure rate, even if they try.

 

[cryx]

Hmm. Out of 15 cartos, I've had 4 that were completely unusable right out the pack. That's a 27% DOA rate. I've only had 3 survive for more than a couple fills when people are touting, 10, 20+ fills. That's over 50% short-term failure rate. Those 3 are going strong though like a tank, so I guess I expect a little more. Why not a <10% failure rate?

Rummage through the Chinese vendors. Cartos like these cost $.55. A kit with 2 batteries, 5 cartos, a wall charger, and a usb charger are $12. A case is $1.20. Passthrus are $2.50. PCCs (not bloog's) are $11.60. The prices drop in bulk. I know there's a lot of business overhead and I'm not condemning profit. In fact, I've tried encouraging my wife to expand her business to sell ecigs. There's a hell of a lot more margin here than what she sells.

My point is the issues can be easily fixed w/o impacting profit very much, and yes, I'd pay a dollar or two more for a safer product.