Just so you know they put chemicals in cigarettes that keep you addicted to them, and it's not just nicotine.
May contain Diacetyl formaldehyde etc...
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I know it's crazy....
And when you consider that the "chance" is less than you'd see similar from an Apple (Apple seeds contain arsenic and can be very deadly), yet no warning on apples.
It's just scare tactics...
If it was certain that it did contain dangerous chemicals it would be another thing, but at this point, it's fear-mongering.
Sadly the media has done their job well. Most if not all of your concerns have been soundly debunked right here on this forum but it is hard to know the truth when the media has constantly demonized vaping
I will try to put it in plain language but if ones mind is already made up what I say will have no affect. The liquid we vape does not contain formaldehyde. It has shown to possibly be produced when heating the liquid past what most of us vape at. If you smoked you were already exposed to Diacetyl but in much higher doses. Bottom line.....E-liquid mixers are being forced to put lies and suppositions on their labels.
Absolutely..Sadly the media has done their job well. Most if not all of your concerns have been soundly debunked right here on this forum but it is hard to know the truth when the media has constantly demonized vaping
I will try to put it in plain language but if ones mind is already made up what I say will have no affect. The liquid we vape does not contain formaldehyde. It has shown to possibly be produced when heating the liquid past what most of us vape at. If you smoked you were already exposed to Diacetyl but in much higher doses. Bottom line.....E-liquid mixers are being forced to put lies and suppositions on their labels.
And now that the diacetyl scare "fad" has died off (and it just didn't work out and no one died or got sick from it at this point still - after 10 years), so now we've having the formaldehyde scare fad to replace it.
Do you really believe the state of California tested ANY juice before requiring that label?
(Hint: they didn't).
Cali labels and regs are to discourage e cig use and funnel that revenue back to cigarretts, which are insanely taxed and provide MSA payments based on profits and sales, to the state
It's all about money.
You dont really believe the State of California cares about your health do you?
I understand what these chemicals are about etc,i smoke flavourless so its not a concern of mine.
Flavours or whats in them give me bad acne .
Flavours or whats in them give me bad acne .
Trust me I know governments and money grabs,our Prime Minister doesn't have a clue on most things other than taking pictures and kissing babies for a picture and more TAXES.
We have regs now as well,just not as tough as some U.S states.
We have regs now as well,just not as tough as some U.S states.
Do you eat bland flavorless food?
The flavorings used in almost ALL e juice are FDA approved food grade flavorings.
The exact same flavorings used in everyday food items.
yes but consuming and inhaling are two very different things,just because you can eat something doesn't mean you can inhale vast amounts of it into your lungs.
The argument is that they have been deemed safe to eat, not to heat and inhale.
There has been little to no testing of flavorings for inhalation, and it's perfectly feasible that something that would do you no harm if you ate it might cause a problem if you heat it up and inhale it.
I'm only playing devil's advocate here - my personal position is that it's probably perfectly safe to inhale them, (and certainly exponentially safer than smoking) but the argument does have merit and is not ridiculous at all.
This is one of the reasons I vape unflavored - why add a potential risk if you don't need to?
if there was no such thing as unflavored liquid I would vape it without worrying too much, but since I have the choice, I choose not to use flavorings.
I think that's understood....But "vast" amounts? I thought you said you understood these things? You shouldn't eat "vast" amounts of them either. How do you know the "vast" amounts of vg, pg and nicotine you're inhaling are safe?
This kinda seems like deja vu from when cigs were first a big thing,the smokers said nothing here to worry about lol.
Nothing is 100% safe but I chose not to add other potentially harmful chemicals to my vape.
Nothing is 100% safe but I chose not to add other potentially harmful chemicals to my vape.
I thought we were talking about "chemicals" you claimed were in the flavorings?
Formaldehyde isnt safe to eat and is not found in food grade flavorings.
That's fine and I completely respect that. You've done a good job of not being the snarky purist that Vapes better than everyone else in this discussion. It's noted and appreciated. Don't go off the deep end with phrases like "vast amounts of these chemicals" to try and prove your point. Even the ones trying to shut us down say "Trace amounts". We're talking about trace amounts if any at all. Cigarettes are loaded with diacytl and formaldehyde....As far as I know, that's not what was killing me.
If you really want to freak out, google how flavors are extracted. Most are done with alcohol or butane. Both FDA approved.
This.
If you like unflavored, there is no advantage to adding flavorings, but there is a potential disadvantage (we just don't know either way).
If you can't stand unflavored, then flavorings are a huge advantage, and the potential added risk is probably too small to worry about - it may not even exist.
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