*** Members To Look Out For *** The BLACK List ***

[Sun Vaporer]

If that was the intent to pass judgment on Parked and cast him as a Blacklist "no gooder" --then that has mission has been sucessful. Anyone new that reads this thread is going to think Parked is shady ---and that is not right. The posts should be moved or striken from the tread.-----That is my take on it as Parked does not belong in the "blacklisted member" thread---Sun

 

[gep]

Alright guys ...

Just got off the phone with Parker ... We went ahead and moved all of his review threads in to his own subforum. Thus, there should be no more commotion.

Well, done.

Rest your arms and fingers everyone, no need to continue the

I was at the forefront of this inquiry. I was taken aback by receiving an email that was tagged with Janty on it after I placed an order from Parked. Others noticed some other things that on the surface were admittedly, not transparent.

Questions were asked. Answers were given. Reviews were moved in the best interest of all (including Parked's, IMHO) to Dietsmoke's subforum.

The issue of "unaffiliated fans" placing links in sigs, well, that's a different subject.

As far as the reviews from others who are not currently suppliers but receive products "gratis" in order to review, that has been the standard operating procedure from the beginning. Let it be.

And in the interest of fairness, yes, this info should not be part of this stickied thread and if possible should be moved or whatever.

(Let's note however, for the future, that THIS was where the majority of the discussion on this topic took place BECAUSE this was where the topic was finally addressed: In THIS thread. Unfortunately, when the topic was brought up in OTHER threads, it went unaddressed. Food for thought for all involved.)

OK? Ok.

Ciao! I have work to do.

 

[rsngfrce]

The guy did nothing wrong.

Well, I wouldn't quite go that far...

 

[Terraphon]

Terraphon-- your reputation with reviews is above reproach--to hell with these unrealistic standards and passing of judgment that is going on here---If someone likes standing in judgment, that speaks volumes about them--making derogatory judgments without careful restraints is outright dangerous---------Sun

Above reproach or not...I want to make sure it always stays that way.

I don't know about Mr. Parker's intentions. I don't know if he was thinking "I'm gonna make myself some business and do Jeff a solid" or not...I just know things should have been handled differently by him in order to avoid all of this.

Full disclosure is always the path to unquestionable integrity.

 

[Kate]

If this is covered up I will be very uncomfortable with this community.

This discussion happened here because of lack of honesty, erasing that is impossible and people should know it.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I'm sorry sun , I don't see any of that here. openess and transparency would a fairer reviewer make.

Apostle--I would agree about that take but for the Thread we are in--Judgment about Parked's verasity have been made without concrete evidence that he acted with Malice---I do not see malice here at all. I see a correction needed about his reviews--not some horrific act on the part of Parkerd-----what next--a call to string him up? This is an outrage IMO.

 

[Kate]

No judgement has been made, he's not on the warning list.

 

[Nuck]

Well, I wouldn't quite go that far...

To me, doing wrong is taking orders for back ordered stock and not informing the customer or just not shipping product. It could also be not replacing faulty product or hiding costs, etc.

Not adhering to the spirit of some arbitrary forum rule ranks right up there with farting on a bus on the 'wrong' scale. Sorry, it's just really hard to take any of it all that serious.

Allowing a damaging thread to stay stickied, on the other hand, when the supplier has done nothing to adversely affect his customers is pretty far out there.

 

[Walrus]

If this is covered up I will be very uncomfortable with this community.

This discussion happened here because of lack of honesty, erasing that is impossible and people should know it.

I don't know that I'd call it a lack of honesty. A lack of forethought? Yep. It did have to take months of preparation before opening the business. Continuing to do reviews without mentioning that those preparations were being made? Not the best judgment, but I'm not reading anything nefarious into it. He's not given me any reason to believe that it was anything less than oversight.

 

[rsngfrce]

Interestingly, this post was recently made http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...es-why-no-extra-chargers-m401.html#post149802 by a person who I don't know if is familiar with this thread or not. I'm certainly not advocating covering this up!

 

[Walrus]

No judgement has been made, he's not on the warning list.

I agree. There was discussion as to whether it was warranted, and that was appropriate. There is no warning, and as of yet there doesn't need to be.

 

[Kate]

Ok, honesty could be disputed but transparency and conflicting interests should be taken into account.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

If this is covered up I will be very uncomfortable with this community.

This discussion happened here because of lack of honesty, erasing that is impossible and people should know it.

On the one hand no judgment has been passed--yet on the other hand there was "a lack of honesty" . That is inconistant pleading at its best----Parked is a good kid and this is nonsense--a lynching that is fatally flawed. Call Parker out for the review issue--yes. Call him dishonest and trash him----I think not-----Sun

 

[Bellinghamster]

Aww hell...

Parked is a good guy, he's done what few else could. He had the financial wherewithal to put together a site carrying a majority of the devices, backed by a LARGE inventory, on U.S. soil [i.e. inside the customs net]

I <3 PS, but they haven't been able to supply the market adequately. When they sell out - you have to go hunting. Of course, it wasn't all their fault with the move... and the FDA... and customs... and the recent explosion in membership.

All of Parked's reviews have merit in that you get to SEE the devices in action. I think it's only appropriate though that they have been moved, as now they are "advertising" not "reviews". I'd hate to see them deleted, there's a lot of work there that shouldn't be lost.

I personally think he might have been a bit biased towards Janty, but he never hid it. He talks about Jeff being across town, and how Jeff "gave" devices to him for review, etc. If a supplier is gonna come hang out with me, give me free stuff, answer all my questions, etc... I'm gonna have a hard time finding anything negative to say. I'm also sure Parked never had to wait for replacement Janty parts

So for those that think he acted unethically - you have a choice. Buy or don't buy from him. You have no idea how many members on this forum might have secret allegiances to suppliers, and you need to take any review for what it is: One person's (possibly biased) opinion.

@Parked: Don't worry about the thread. All press is good press. If you make your customers happy, all this will blow over soon enough.

@Cash: Congrats on being the stand-up and diplomatic guy you are. You are in the weirdest place being a supplier and mod... especially on this thread. You're handling it very well

 

[Walrus]

To me, doing wrong is taking orders for back ordered stock and not informing the customer or just not shipping product. It could also be not replacing faulty product or hiding costs, etc.

Not adhering to the spirit of some arbitrary forum rule ranks right up there with farting on a bus on the 'wrong' scale. Sorry, it's just really hard to take any of it all that serious.

Allowing a damaging thread to stay stickied, on the other hand, when the supplier has done nothing to adversely affect his customers is pretty far out there.

I disagree, when it's that particular forum that is being used as the vehicle for promotion. We have rules. We adhere to them, or get called out.

 

[K-Sound Krew]

The majority is posting in favor of parked, so drop it

If you want a witch hunt I can think of atleast 10 other members who should be on here

 

[Kate]

On the one hand no judgment has been passed--yet on the other hand there was "a lack of honesty" . That is inconistant pleading at its best----Parked is a good kid and this is nonsense--a lynching that is fatally flawed. Call Parker out for the review issue--yes. Call him dishonest and trash him----I think not-----Sun

'Parked is a good kid' that's your judgement. I'm allowed mine. He's still not on the blacklist so hasn't been judged by the powers that be.

 

[Kate]

Who should be on here K? Let's get this in the open so we can have confidence in who we're dealing with.

 

[gep]

To me, doing wrong is taking orders for back ordered stock and not informing the customer or just not shipping product. It could also be not replacing faulty product or hiding costs, etc.

Not adhering to the spirit of some arbitrary forum rule ranks right up there with farting on a bus on the 'wrong' scale. Sorry, it's just really hard to take any of it all that serious.

Allowing a damaging thread to stay stickied, on the other hand, when the supplier has done nothing to adversely affect his customers is pretty far out there.

Speaking of.... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../9687-now-something-completely-different.html

 

[Nuck]

Speaking of.... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../9687-now-something-completely-different.html

"[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]Whether he did it or not, he might have gotten off easy. A 13-year-old student at a Stuart school was arrested in November after authorities said he broke wind in class."

Dear god...the human race never ceases to amaze me

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