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K-Sound Krew

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Defended from being ripped off.
How can people get ripped off?
He's selling the same crap that everyone and their mother is selling

For the most part ECF members are middle aged, if it's this late in the game and you’re so gullible that you can't detect a shyster when you see one then you deserved to get ripped off
But that statement isn't in regards to parked, I don't see anything malicious in his intent
 

rsngfrce

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Watch Leaford's reviews of EPuffer. Now search on the number of people who got bitten by it. People review the product they are given and we all know that the same product in the hands of different people can yield dramatically different results. I don't think Leaford intentionally misled anyone, any more than I think Parked did.

We all have our own opinions but that's all they are.

I bought the EPuffer based on Leaford's review and got bitten by it. The problem was he was reviewing the product not the company. The product doesn't really suck, the company does.

I do think there was a problem ONCE Parked began reviewing items he knew he was going to be selling... it can be easily misinterpreted IF NOTHING ELSE.
 

Nuck

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Why wouldn't parked just remove those darn reviews? whats the point of keeping them?

(everyone can answer)

I wouldn't have either. Read the loaded questions in his forum. They weren't seeking answers, they were laying the groundwork for yet another forum pile-on.

It happens a few times a week at least. This is just the latest crusade.
 

Sun Vaporer

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If this is covered up I will be very uncomfortable with this community.

This discussion happened here because of lack of honesty, erasing that is impossible and people should know it.


You Kate made the unilateral judgment that Parked lacked honesty without any evidence to bear at all to back up this vial clam and slander him and his business---what you stated is not an opinion, rather a rank and uncalled for attack on Parkerd --that is an opinion you are not entilteld to without facts in anybodys book--Sun
 

K-Sound Krew

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You Kate made the unilateral judgment that Parked lacked honesty without any evidence to bear at all to back up this vial clam and slander him and his business---what you stated is not an opinion, rather a rank and uncalled for attack on Parkerd --that is an opinion you are not entilteld to without facts in anybodys book--Sun

You should only eat shellfish if it's a month that has an R in it
:p
 

Nuck

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REALLY! I very much miss the vapor production! I did have a battery go bad after a couple days, but if the company wasn't so bad to deal with, I would likely have kept it! IT WAS MY FIRST BABY! ;)

Yeah..The convenience and vapour were pretty impressive. They have a new model that I'm hitting hard that appears to be pretty good. Based on previous experience, I'm gonna keep pushing it for a few weeks before I post good things about it.

They do seem to have solved the burning carts issue though.

Edit: Oops..a bit off topic. I'll post an angry post next time to make up for it.
 

parked

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You put him on trial Kate and called him dishonest --so do not twist the facts--you called him dishonest and got called on it--so do not twist it around--some of us had to come in here and stop the nonsense---Sun


Kate you did call me dishonest which was totally false !!!!and again this does not belong in this thread.

thanks

parked
 

Sun Vaporer

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I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as the next person Sun.

Do you think that if you complain about me enough I'll change my mind and say Parked acted with the utmost integrity?

If you need it spelled out for you Kate --then fine. An opinion is great --anyone can have one--but when you make an accusation that someone is dishonest--that is no longer an opinion--and that calls for factual evidence--evidence you do not have. No one is looking for you to change your mind--what would be nice is some facts that Parkerd is, as you say, dishonest----Sun
 

Terraphon

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Ok...Someone wants evidence of impropriety?

Watch these videos:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/dietsmokes/5315-parkeds-review-intellicig-evo.html

(Here's his follow-up to the above)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/dietsmokes/5821-parkeds-intellicig-evo-review-take-two.html

In those videos he claimed that the EVO (an M-401) has little to no throat hit.

Cons:
#1 Carts hard to refill not as easy as a 901,801,LadyPipe,Dura,Kissbox
#2 For me no throat hit whatsoever (at least for me)
#3 Cuttoff time it has blows needs to be longer.

But..

M401 Black Tie Edition - Diet Smokes .com

He mentions throat hit being good

M401 Red Edition - Diet Smokes .com

"*cough* the throat hit is very nice"

(check 2:55 or so where he fails to hit the cutoff and then coughs, again)

M401 "The Bumble Bee " - Diet Smokes .com

"as you can see *choke* it has nice vapor production and a nice throat hit"

Yeah...that's biased reviewing, right there...In Mr. Parker's own words.

The Evo gives "no throat hit" but the dietsmokes 401 makes him choke.

Case Closed...I know this guy has a lot of fanboys and people that think he's a good dude but...c'mon...There it is in living color and I absolutely DEFY anyone in here to make a case on his behalf after consideration of all of those videos.
 

igetcha

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this was my answer on another post:-

there are thousands of people who review products (not just e-cigs!) who recieve freebies! its part and parcel of doing reviews! and if you think i might be biased because i get a freebie every now and then then take a look at my reviews! you will see that i clearly state if i purchased the item or recieved it for review. you will also see that there are only a handfull which were freebies. you will then see that out of that handfull of freebies a lot of them i only gave marks of 6 - 6.5 out of 10! hardly what i would call a score that will sell that product in the millions! and pay special attention to my review of the TW Ginseng e-liquid..........i describe it as "tramps feet!" oooh, i bet they went straight out of stock after that with the mad rush for it! and whats more, anything i cant give at least a 6 out of 10 i dont bother to review........i simply send it back and tell them its awfull.
 

K-Sound Krew

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Parked, I believe you put reviews on the review board for products you knew you were going to sell without making clear that they were not unbiased reviews.

The only person who can cover up this mess is Smokey Joe, ask him to edit the facts.
I agree some what, I think his positive reviews decided which products he would stand behind and sell, isn't that common sense?

If I did reviews for 50 products which ones would I sell my top 10 or the bottom 10?
 
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