Mixing/handling Question

[Auntie Mame]

When cooking or particularly baking sometimes the order of when to add things matters or what to mix with what (flour and fat for a roux or sugar and fats for a cookie) and sometimes how you handle things matter (kneading dough for bread is good, kneading dough for pie crust or biscuits is bad) etc. Some flavorings are oils, some contain alcohol, does it matter how they are handled, or when added? Does an oil based flavor or those containing alcohol emulsify better with PG or VG than the other? Just pondering while I tinker in DYI land.

 

[DeloresRose]

I don't think it matters with juice, although I know what you mean about baking. For me, it depends on how much I'm making. For small batches, I put the base, then flavor, then nic. Because there are three chances I'll know the bottle over, so I put them in order of how expensive the ingredients are.

For large ones, I put flavor, then nic, then base. Because I use a pipette for the flavor, and a graduated cylinder for the nic and base. So the base rinses all the nic out of the cylinder.

Once it's all in the bottle and shaken several times, it's going to blend the same no matter how it's added.

 

[dannyv45]

I've never seen the order of adding components matter and alcohol and PG flavors are OK but check the ingredience of your oil based flavors. What are usually safe are the natural essence oils of herbs and natural fruits such as orange. Anything with artificial preservatives or enhancers should be avoided. Oil base flavors tend to seperate and I find that a 1 hour steep in an ultrasonic cleaner helps prevent seperation. It may be nessessary to air mixes using alcohol bases and usually 24hours with the cap off will take care of that.

oil based flavor or those containing alcohol emulsify better with PG or VG


I've not seen it really make a difference other then higher VG concentrations may take longer to steep due to the thicker viscosity of VG.

 

[captknots]

Oil based flavor is a big no-no it will not mix, preparation order doesnt really make a difference however i find it easier to messure flavor by adding it first when using a pipette. Mainly tho just make sure the ratios are correct and your flavors are water soluable and diacetol free

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[Auntie Mame]

Thank you all. As someone who loves to tinker with cooking and baking recipes, am just trying to wrap my head around a new format

 

[boomerdude]

Oils like Loran can be used in juice, no problem. PGA used as an emulsifier can be aired off in fifteen minutes.

 

[Lurch]

I always put the nicotine in first so I can close that bottle tightly and put it away before I knock it over! I am a klutz that way....

 

[cthulhufan]

I used to use oil based flavorings but have since ceased due to the admonition of Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos.

Doctors, open your textbooks: glycerol CANNOT cause lipoid pneumonia (but other things can)

and

I'm not telling you what to do or not do, just stating that I've ceased using oils in my juice based on the limited research I've done.

 

[boomerdude]

There's is a difference between food grade oils used for vaping and essential oils used for perfume making and industrial processing.