mods blowing up? Really?

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KenD

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There's one or two of these threads everyday. The same few people try to give information to keep people safe. And then there's the other few idiots that pop in and talk about how they only pulse their mod so it's safe and it won't vent or blow up.

Whatever, blow your face off I don't care anymore.

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Yeah, usually with the "in my opinion it's safe". One's opinion doesn't matter folks, if it's unsafe it's unsafe
 

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High power batteries are inherently quite unstable if not handled correctly or abused, or even just down to bad luck, and not just in e-cig application either.
Laptop batteries and phone batteries have exploded and caused house fires, the Lithium polymer batteries that are commonly used in the RC hobby have been known to swell and explode or catch fire (you are supposed to charge them in fire resistant "battery bags").

Are these events common, no not really but it DOES happen. Just be sensible and mitigate the risks as much as possible with any battery in any device.

Stay safe!
 

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There's been enough instances to justify the warnings we read in all the various threads. It makes more sense to point out the potential dangers than to make light of them and say "it hardly ever happens". Responsible people steer users towards safety while immature, argumentative attention seekers act like its all bs . Seems like just a few weeks ago, the op was asking everybody's advice on a new clearo for his ego battery. Low and behold, he's now decided to enlighten everyone on the safety factors of Mechs and batteries. Wonderful.
 

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I use a Kayfun and a Russian on a nearly daily basis and have never had a + block twist on me....

and.... if its design is faulty, why are you still using it???

I own an authentic SvoeMesto KFL+, and have helped build a buddy's Russian 91%.

The positive block on my buddy's Russian twisted repeatedly, and I struggled for a good 20 minutes before figuring out how to correct the issue. Personally, I believe its a design flaw, too. And I wouldn't own one myself.
 
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There's been enough instances to justify the warnings we read in all the various threads. It makes more sense to point out the potential dangers than to make light of them and say "it hardly ever happens". Responsible people steer users towards safety while immature, argumentative attention seekers act like its all bs . Seems like just a few weeks ago, the op was asking everybody's advice on a new clearo for his ego battery. Low and behold, he's now decided to enlighten everyone on the safety factors of Mechs and batteries. Wonderful.

OK, I'll steer people towards safety . Except I've never seen a mod blow up, or heard of one until this thread (batteries, Yea, usually from charging) . This thread has been educational. I watched a video where the guy swore that mods won't blow up if they have holes. So without this thread, I may have thought that was the case.
BTW, never had an ego
 

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One of these would prevent most runaway thermal events before they start.

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But that assumes people will vape under 7 amps. It pops at that point and it's resettable. 7 amps at 3.7 volts is achieved with a .5 ohm coil. It produces 26 watts of heat. That should be enough for 99% of vapers, even those who want to blow clouds.

You'd probably lose at a cloud vaping competition, though. Is it worth it?
 

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I've had one or two shorting events with my Provari and all I got was an E1 code. The last one was right after winding and installing a 1.8 ohm coil on my Kayfun 3.1. I fired it up, got an E1 and popped the top off to look down into the chimney. Using a light I could see a stray coil wire end protruding from the screw and touching the outer cylinder of the chimney. I pulled it apart and trimmed the stray end.

That was caused by my own laziness. Before I put it together after mounting the coil, I looked around the table for my nail clippers. Not there, so I grabbed the scissors and cut the ends (close, I thought). There's less than half a millimeter between the screws and the chimney. Lesson learned with no damage done due to internal electronics that protected me from myself.
 

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OK, I'll steer people towards safety . Except I've never seen a mod blow up, or heard of one until this thread (batteries, Yea, usually from charging) . This thread has been educational. I watched a video where the guy swore that mods won't blow up if they have holes. So without this thread, I may have thought that was the case.
BTW, never had an ego
I've never seen anyone eaten by a tiger but that doesn't mean that it's safe to harass them...
 

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I use a Kayfun and a Russian on a nearly daily basis and have never had a + block twist on me....

and.... if its design is faulty, why are you still using it???

Because I fixed it with the O rings. The purpose of the O ring on the center post screw is so I can crank it down without having the threads stick up over the block interfering with the coil. The extra O rings under the adjustment screw is to isolate it from the center post. I have one Russian, and this is the reason why. Otherwise I would have more.

I don't know if they revised the design to address the issue or you have just been lucky. I would highly suggest for you to inspect it carefully. It's a known issue, not something I'm just making up for entertainment purposes.
 

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OK, I'll steer people towards safety . Except I've never seen a mod blow up, or heard of one until this thread (batteries, Yea, usually from charging) . This thread has been educational. I watched a video where the guy swore that mods won't blow up if they have holes. So without this thread, I may have thought that was the case.
Good to see you have an open mind and can reason.

Unlike those who choose to build 0.08 ohm coils and believe their 35 amp battery (which is actually only a 20 amp battery) is safe to power that coil. Never mind that coil is only 0.08 ohms from a hard short. Never mind that most ohm readers don't read with THAT much accuracy. I can't imagine how that could be worth changing my face forever, or losing a couple of digits from my hand.

Someone who pushes the envelope way past any sensible point is risking our right to vape without hindrance. They are making it our business to call them out. I don't want them to be the reason the government decides to ban the use of mods because they were an idiot who made the headline news for having a mod take out their jaw.
 
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I've never seen anyone eaten by a tiger but that doesn't mean that it's safe to harass them...

Funny thing, I was actually harrasing tigers a little over a month ago. Feeding them, petting them, holding them. I'm 100% serious. The things you can do in s.e. Asia....lol
 

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I guess one of the things I wondered, when I made this thread, is mods blowing up seems like they would be headline news worthy to perpetuate the fear. I've been looking at the new members forum for the first time since I joined a few days ago until now. It seems like.... with all the people not understanding this, it seems like there would be more incidents, but there doesn't seem to be, because I would think they would be front page in light of the regulations. My wording wasn't intended to be hostile. I was thinking in another thread yesterday to Maybe try some 0.2 or 0.1 builds, but had got the math wrong, and when I found out the actual amp draw I decided not to for safety. Now I'm fine keeping my pull, as a rule of thumb, below 20amp continuous on any battery (that has more than a 20amp continuous rating. I'm at a 9 amp now.
My point was just, some people are getting told off here, which is good. But for every 1 that's told here, there must be another 10 who don't know right?
I wouldn't like it to be more common, I just thought Maybe the guy was right. And if he was, then why do people on here act like it's more of a safety risk. But I understand more now.
 

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Since I've learned about battery swelling and cutting off vent holes I have drilled several holes on my super cane (I bought 10 clones from fast tech and screwed all the battery tubes togeyher) so in case my batteries vent I will be safe :D

Hmmmmm... :unsure:

So, if I understand what you're getting at here.... you screwed a bunch of tubes together so that you can stack batteries, but you still think you're safe because you drilled some extra holes in the tubes? :facepalm:
Let me know how that works out for you in the long run.....
 

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I guess one of the things I wondered, when I made this thread, is mods blowing up seems like they would be headline news worthy to perpetuate the fear. I've been looking at the new members forum for the first time since I joined a few days ago until now. It seems like.... with all the people not understanding this, it seems like there would be more incidents, but there doesn't seem to be, because I would think they would be front page in light of the regulations. My wording wasn't intended to be hostile. I was thinking in another thread yesterday to Maybe try some 0.2 or 0.1 builds, but had got the math wrong, and when I found out the actual amp draw I decided not to for safety. Now I'm fine keeping my pull, as a rule of thumb, below 20amp continuous on any battery (that has more than a 20amp continuous rating. I'm at a 9 amp now.
My point was just, some people are getting told off here, which is good. But for every 1 that's told here, there must be another 10 who don't know right?
I wouldn't like it to be more common, I just thought Maybe the guy was right. And if he was, then why do people on here act like it's more of a safety risk. But I understand more now.


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Risky vaping practices will only hurt the image of the vaping community. Those vapers that inadvertently tread on the edge need to be advised and warned.

As their numbers grow, those that intentionally test the limits will ultimately cast a darker shadow and a more watchful eye upon us.
 

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Hmmmmm... :unsure:

So, if I understand what you're getting at here.... you screwed a bunch of tubes together so that you can stack batteries, but you still think you're safe because you drilled some extra holes in the tubes? :facepalm:
Let me know how that works out for you in the long run.....

lol I think it's a joke, and I'm pretty sure they meant they screwed them together for plenty of room to vent from the top. :D I could be wrong though.
 
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