mods blowing up? Really?

[Baditude]

Don't be too sure... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUkqIWtOf-4

No, it didn't blow, but it sure could have. It's not about the mod exploding, but the battery.

I haven't seen all of this idiot's videos, but I did read that he vented a battery at the end of one of them, and just sat there trying to figure out what was going on ... all the while holding his mod with a dirty rag because its too hot to hold with his bare hands.

 

[Cullin Kin]

I haven't seen all of this idiot's videos, but I did read that he vented a battery at the end of one of them, and just sat there trying to figure out what was going on ... all the while holding his mod with a dirty rag because its too hot to hold with his bare hands.

That's exactly what happens. It's deplorable.

 

[SmokinRabbit]

So how does a newbie minimize risk? I'm not going to be rebuilding or buying mechs anytime soon, but do I need to worry about ego batteries? I just bought "generic" 400mah ones from a reputable dealer... I was concerned they were called generics, but it's a dealer with a good reputation. Should I be concerned?


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[tj99959]

So how does a newbie minimize risk? I'm not going to be rebuilding or buying mechs anytime soon, but do I need to worry about ego batteries? I just bought "generic" 400mah ones from a reputable dealer... I was concerned they were called generics, but it's a dealer with a good reputation. Should I be concerned?


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Well this was last month.
http://rt.com/uk/179040-ecigarette-explosion-merseyside-death/

Nine fires and one death in just one city would lead me to believe that there can be a problem with ego knock off batteries.

Sure hope your local vendor didn't buy ego clones from the same supplier as the shop in Merseyside!

 

[zoiDman]

Aren't you special. Ever taken a Russian apart? It's a design flaw and a dangerous one.

Just curious.

If you know there is a Design Flaw with something, and You Yourself say it is a Dangerous one, why do you Keep Using It?

 

[stevegmu]

So how does a newbie minimize risk? I'm not going to be rebuilding or buying mechs anytime soon, but do I need to worry about ego batteries? I just bought "generic" 400mah ones from a reputable dealer... I was concerned they were called generics, but it's a dealer with a good reputation. Should I be concerned?


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If you want an eGo sized battery, get a ProVape-1. It has safety features no eGo has and will last forever. With the right topper, I get as good a vape as I do with larger, more expensive devices.

Just use the correct charger and it should be ok.

 

[Baditude]

So how does a newbie minimize risk? I'm not going to be rebuilding or buying mechs anytime soon, but do I need to worry about ego batteries? I just bought "generic" 400mah ones from a reputable dealer... I was concerned they were called generics, but it's a dealer with a good reputation. Should I be concerned?

Use common sense and use safe battery practices:

Batteries should never get warm or hot. If they do, they are defective. The tanks with heating atomizers will get warm or hot, that's a different matter altogether.

Use only the approved charger for the batteries that you are using. Don't mix and match chargers or batteries from different brands. Don't use your charger in the usb ports on a computer or car; these could have too little or too much current for either the charger or the battery and could cause damage.

eGo charger and usb/wall adaptor

Don't charge batteries unattended. Be around the charging area so should an incident occur you are around to put out a fire or call the fire department.

Charge batteries on a flame resistant surface: Marble counter top, stove top, metal baking pan, pyrex dish. Lithium batteries and chargers emit flames when they fail.



Statistically, most battery incidents occur while the battery is charging. This is when a battery is most vulnerable to vent or explode. Its common sense to remove a battery from the charger once it is fully charged; do not leave on the charger overnight while sleeping. Most chargers are "supposed" to stop charging after a full charge, but electrical circuits can fail. Don't trust your home to a failed circuit board.

Brand name eGo batteries (Joyetech, Vision, Kangertech) are considered to have a higher quality control than "generic batteries", which could have been built with less factory quality control with inferior materials. Generic batteries are of unknown quality made by an unknown manufacturer who doesn't give a crap about you and your safety. IMHO, its well worth paying a little extra for a better quality battery from a reputable manufacturer than trying to save a couple of bucks with a generic.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Hah hah. Hate wordplay, but trust and fire should never be used in the same sentence.

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[xcrazydx]

Hah hah. Hate wordplay, but trust and fire should never be used in the same sentence.

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You can trust that it will cause a fire!

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[Kaezziel]

Use common sense and use safe battery practices:

Batteries should never get warm or hot. If they do, they are defective. The tanks with heating atomizers will get warm or hot, that's a different matter altogether.

Use only the approved charger for the batteries that you are using. Don't mix and match chargers or batteries from different brands. Don't use your charger in the usb ports on a computer or car; these could have too little or too much current for either the charger or the battery and could cause damage.

View attachment 372738View attachment 372739 eGo charger and usb/wall adaptor

Don't charge batteries unattended. Be around the charging area so should an incident occur you are around to put out a fire or call the fire department.

Charge batteries on a flame resistant surface: Marble counter top, stove top, metal baking pan, pyrex dish. Lithium batteries and chargers emit flames when they fail.

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This is kinda why I've never been a fan of the pass-through options... isn't it easy enough to keep a spare battery to use while another battery charges?
It seems to me that most of the incidents with batteries happen while charging (including cell phones and laptops)... it's simple enough to learn how to do your builds in a manner that tremendously lessens the chances of a battery going thermal while using it... charging is another story. I understand that most times, battery failure during charging is usually due to over-discharge in the first place, and that is controllable. But to add the risk of using a battery as it is charging just doesn't work for me....

 

[JohnnyBGoode]

Compliments Baditude, your answers never fail in completeness, correctness and accompanying graphics to top it off with.
I hope your near evangelistic preaching (intended positively) on battery safety might safe a few some terrible accident.

 

[zoiDman]

Compliments Baditude, your answers never fail in completeness, correctness and accompanying graphics to top it off with.
I hope your near evangelistic preaching (intended positively) on battery safety might safe a few some terrible accident.

I have No Doubt that it Definitely Has.

 

[peraspera]

...Brand name eGo batteries (Joyetech, Vision, Kangertech) are considered to have a higher quality control than "generic batteries", which could have been built with less factory quality control with inferior materials. Generic batteries are of unknown quality made by an unknown manufacturer who doesn't give a crap about you and your safety. IMHO, its well worth paying a little extra for a better quality battery from a reputable manufacturer than trying to save a couple of bucks with a generic.

Brand names shouldn't give anyone the green light to ignore basic battery and charging safety. I had a Joye brand Twist start to melt its Joye brand charger. It got plenty hot enough to start a fire despite the fact that the fuse on the power strip to which the charger was plugged into had not yet tripped.

 

[rondasherrill]

Brand names shouldn't give anyone the green light to ignore basic battery and charging safety. I had a Joye brand Twist start to melt its Joye brand charger. It got plenty hot enough to start a fire despite the fact that the fuse on the power strip to which the charger was plugged into had not yet tripped.

Exactly. In my experience, the eGo's connector is it's "design flaw" that makes it easy to short. It's not really a design flaw, but it does tend to be a problem. The first couple months when I started vaping, I lost a couple batteries because just the tiniest shard of something got inside the connector and crossed the POS and NEG. On one of them, that destroyed a charger. Pretty scary stuff! But it was MY fault. I should have made sure the connector was completely clean before screwing something into it.

**Also of note, I did not come to the forum and say, "Hey everyone, I had a battery go poof", so... proof that you don't hear about all of them. I guarantee we never hear about the overwhelming majority. Most people don't want to admit to the world that they did something stupid.

 

[Ed_C]

Brand name eGo batteries (Joyetech, Vision, Kangertech) are considered to have a higher quality control than "generic batteries", which could have been built with less factory quality control with inferior materials. Generic batteries are of unknown quality made by an unknown manufacturer who doesn't give a crap about you and your safety. IMHO, its well worth paying a little extra for a better quality battery from a reputable manufacturer than trying to save a couple of bucks with a generic.

I'm not convinced that "brand name" batteries are of "high" quality either, but I would agree that you are somewhat better off. I have been more aware of battery safety, in general, since I've started reading this forum. I now try and unplug other battery-powered devices when I go to sleep or leave the house, but I still haven't managed to not let my cell charge overnight.

 

[SmokinRabbit]

Exactly. In my experience, the eGo's connector is it's "design flaw" that makes it easy to short. It's not really a design flaw, but it does tend to be a problem. The first couple months when I started vaping, I lost a couple batteries because just the tiniest shard of something got inside the connector and crossed the POS and NEG. On one of them, that destroyed a charger. Pretty scary stuff! But it was MY fault. I should have made sure the connector was completely clean before screwing something into it.

This is the kind of thing newbies might not know though. Generally, people think of rechargeable batteries as safe. I know from now on I'll make sure to blow out any particles in my ego before charging them!

Also, the generic ones I bought online... Two were "generics" and two were Smoktech.

 

[Kaezziel]

Exactly. In my experience, the eGo's connector is it's "design flaw" that makes it easy to short. It's not really a design flaw, but it does tend to be a problem. The first couple months when I started vaping, I lost a couple batteries because just the tiniest shard of something got inside the connector and crossed the POS and NEG. On one of them, that destroyed a charger. Pretty scary stuff! But it was MY fault. I should have made sure the connector was completely clean before screwing something into it.

Wow... is that "personal accountability" I see here?!? I was starting to think that was something that this new modern world was beating out of people... I applaud you, Ronda! There are waaaaaay too many people that blame everything on someone else these days!

 

[zoiDman]

I'm not convinced that "brand name" batteries are of "high" quality either, but I would agree that you are somewhat better off. I have been more aware of battery safety, in general, since I've started reading this forum. I now try and unplug other battery-powered devices when I go to sleep or leave the house, but I still haven't managed to not let my cell charge overnight.

I think this Also brings up the question Is the Name on the Battery Wrapper even what is Supposed to be the Actually Battery Cells?

Are these Batteries what they say they are?

2 AW IMR 18350 Flat Top Battery Li MN 700mAh 3 7V High Drain 2 6WH Flat Top | eBay

I kinda Cringe when I read about People going Lower and Lower with Ohms. While putting Blind Faith in their Batteries Doing what an OEM Spec says they should be Able to do Amp Wise.

When I know their are So Many el-Fake-O Batteries being sold Everyday.

 

[Rocketpunk]

From my experience, the large majority of users do little to nothing in the way of maintenance or weekly cleaning. I've seen some seriously banged up, junked up eGos, and despite repeated instructions, rarely anyone listens. "This thing is crap, it doesn't hold a charge!" After a thorough cleaning and a napkin is covered in green build up, I again emphasize weekly cleaning. No one ever ever listens.

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[zoiDman]

From my experience, the large majority of users do little to nothing in the way of maintenance or weekly cleaning. I've seen some seriously banged up, junked up eGos, and despite repeated instructions, rarely anyone listens. "This thing is crap, it doesn't hold a charge!" After a thorough cleaning and a napkin is covered in green build up, I again emphasize weekly cleaning. No one ever ever listens.

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I think Many Do.

And I Truly believe that Q-Tip sales have gone Up since e-Cigarettes started to Get Popular.