Mods for dummies

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Stormynights

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I have spent so much time searching this forum. I just don't understand any technical information. I do know how to follow simple instructions though. I read every word about Maddog's magnum. I can't watch his video because I live in the sticks and just get dial-up. Everyone is so kind when it comes to sharing information so I thought maybe someone would be kind enough to show step by step directions with pictures. I may be the only one that has this problem. I would like to see some new threads started with mods for dummies.
 

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The only difference would be the atomizer connection. The 801 is a difficult animal to mate with (not in the 'Biblical' sense, but in the modding sense). The only commercially available threaded thing that readily connects with an 801 is a 1/4' phone panel jack from Radio Shack. You still need to fabricate a center (positive) conductor and come up with an insulating material to keep positive and negative portions of the atomizer connection separate. This applies to a mod you do in a flashlight or a battery box.

Maybe I will do a photo tutorial of the process the next time I create a mod.
 

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You are a pro, what do you need a tutorial for?

I still have a LOT to learn before I am truely a pro, but thanks for the flattery. It would be nice for a few reasons. First it would be someplace to point the many people who want to try mods for the 801. Second, I wouldn't be the only person tutorializing and teaching. Maybe I could keep my PM box relatively tidy.:D
 

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The only difference would be the atomizer connection. The 801 is a difficult animal to mate with (not in the 'Biblical' sense, but in the modding sense). The only commercially available threaded thing that readily connects with an 801 is a 1/4' phone panel jack from Radio Shack. You still need to fabricate a center (positive) conductor and come up with an insulating material to keep positive and negative portions of the atomizer connection separate. This applies to a mod you do in a flashlight or a battery box.

Maybe I will do a photo tutorial of the process the next time I create a mod.

Yaa what NicoWolf said ...
and btw what's the RS part # for that jack please?
Oh part # 274-252, heh that search button really does work!
Instructions by Ripley at http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...o-battery-sacrifice-adapter-801-penstyle.html
 
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If I put one together like the nicostick with 3 batteries and set it up for a 801 would it work or would I just destroy atomizers?

If the batteries are NiMH, it will work, but you may not be real enthused with the vapor production - I know I wasn't when I tried it with an 801, but thrilled with the same setup in a 901. I think the 801 needs just a touch more power than 3 NiMH batts. 4 would probably be wonderful, but the box gets huge then. The NicoStick thread gives you a very simple, basic wiring layout. You can apply that same layout in any housing you want. Be creative. You don't have to stick to the box if you don't want to. Many here are using PVC tubes so they can use different battery sizes that are more readily available, like the CR123a. If you can understand what is going on with the circuit, you can mod anything that suits you.
 

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If the batteries are NiMH, it will work, but you may not be real enthused with the vapor production - I know I wasn't when I tried it with an 801, but thrilled with the same setup in a 901. I think the 801 needs just a touch more power than 3 NiMH batts. 4 would probably be wonderful, but the box gets huge then. The NicoStick thread gives you a very simple, basic wiring layout. You can apply that same layout in any housing you want. Be creative. You don't have to stick to the box if you don't want to. Many here are using PVC tubes so they can use different battery sizes that are more readily available, like the CR123a. If you can understand what is going on with the circuit, you can mod anything that suits you.

I wish all of the tutorials were as simple to follow as yours. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me.
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ok im going to chuck these photos here
ill try to explain whats going on in these pics but its going to be messy


ive left out a few things as this post was a spur of the moment thing and i dont really think it deserves its own thread until i go back and redo some text
but this is a really simple no rules,if it works use it type junkyard mod
for anyone
go to your hardware store or similar and look at anything that can be cut/glued/screwed into what you need
for this mod i would recomend using a 3.7v 18650 type battery
plenty of long life with 1 801 atomiser and no diode needed at these volts

please consider using protected batteries where possible and a good quality circuit protected charger , always change/charge batteries at the first hint of low power and check with a multimeter often to ensure safe upper and lower voltage limits in all batteries are at acceptable levels

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.ok find yourself a suitable tube that will fit the desired battery you wish to use , including spring ,endcap and inner switch stop length in that total.
that will help you decide on switch placement as well and beyond that is the length needed to fit atomiser holder cap plus diode,led etc if required
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.yeh all the junk in the above photo , atomiser connector
-801 of course !,end cap,led - i dont need no bloody diode to hold my precious power back

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.just a layout of bits next each other , if i was to fit the led it would be alongside the switch but thats my preference usually i say bugger to the led , i know when im pressing a bloody button
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.ok another pic of bits n pieces , that long red wire is just there for the hell of it , i have a very messy workbench
above you can see the tube semi assembled with the atomiser adaptor fitted with insulator and the inner positive wire feed witch goes to the switch prong
that little copper wire feeding from the rear prong of the switch is a quick and easy way to connect power feed from the battery to the switch,once the switch is in place in the tube with that wire slide you inner battery end support cap into the tube with a little hole in it to get that wire thru , seat the cap and then grab the wire with long nose pliers or a screwdriver and twist it into a circle of wire to accept the battery positive feed
for the endcap of the tube it self i use migwire to go thru the cap and out each side its then shaped in a way to become the earthing point on the tube and also to interference fit the cap itself into the tube
i should of had some photos of that but i dont when i do ill put them in
its simpler than i can explain it
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.thats all you need to do for the inner wire at the atomiser end to make a connection ,strip it a bit ,fold it back on itself and throw on some heatshrink leaving 2 mm exposed to meet the inner connector of atty
the way i fit them i leave a bit of give in them so i can adjust the length slightly just incase its needed
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.dodgy closeup photo of those bits there , isnt this exciting !!:oops:
so all in all there are only 2 solder points in this mod both involving the switch so its nice and basic
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.oh look its some how turned out beautifully even with me doing it
in the switch/atomiser area there is still enough room to fit a diode + led and even a on/off safety switch if needed
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.look at that , it can hold its head up high amongst other mods of similar breeding
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.this is my pv of choice ,twin atts running 6v+ it does take awhile to put together but well worth the effort
i was using 7.4v but umm that was too much of a flavour killer
who says 801's are no good:evil:
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i hope the above photos and text will be understood slightly by at least 1 person besides me
 

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Billyboy, I really love what you have done. This is so much closer to something even I can understand. I have so many questions though. How to you get the end caps to stay on? I am a great grandmother. I need a detailed list of parts. Maybe numbered. I always use the directions when I buy something that says some assembly required, although some directions are easier to follow than others. If I could first assemble my own kit, then connect part A to part B with part C with pictures, I could do that. Nicowolf did a wonderful job on the Nicostick directions.
I think what you have done is just beautiful. I can't wait to see the finished details. What is the thing with all the atomizers on a block used for? I think I must be dense.

You people that are gifted don't understand the problems of the non gifted. :confused: Thank you so much for your help.
 

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Billyboy -

I have been working on something very similar to your set up here. I have one question. How are you making the endcaps? Does the bolt that goes onto the fitting make it a compression, and hold it in that way? I can't see the bottom end of the mod, but I assume you use a screw or something to also make a compression fitting. Am I correct, or way off-base?
 

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The only commercially available threaded thing that readily connects with an 801 is a 1/4' phone panel jack from Radio Shack. You still need to fabricate a center (positive) conductor and come up with an insulating material to keep positive and negative portions of the atomizer connection separate.
Actually I recently discovered a coax splitter threads perfectly into an 801 atty & the center is already insulated from the threads.:)
 
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