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Lori68

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I also love my reo's. I have a grand for the battery options and bigger juice bottle. I use my mini because it is the most portable juice fed mod out there and with a 3ml bottle handles a day's worth of vaping no problems. I only have to carry a spare battery that's about the same size as a AA battery and i have zero worries about dripping and juice bottles.

Some people are for the darwin or provari - rightfully so, they are awesome in their own right. Not an easy choice between the two if those are what you're interested in. I myself don't use them because I'm more into the convenience of juice feeding mods. If I were more into VV i would probably go with the provari.......NO, the darwin........well, maybe on second thought.....

All I can say is thank GOD I found what I like and I'm satisfied to the point I have no interest in any more mod shopping....unless its for another reo :)
 

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FWIW, the Provari isn't just another tube mod. It regulates voltage. When a battery comes straight off of the charger, its voltage charge is higher than the stated voltage. A 3.7 volt battery can come off the charger at 4.2 volts easy and then wind down as the battery loses its charge. When you set the voltage on the Provari at 4.2 volts (or whatever) it stays at 4.2 volts. When you put an atomizer on the Provari, the voltage remains at the 4.2 volts you set even under load. The same is true of the Darwin.

The Provari takes a single battery and doubles the voltage with electronics, so that battery won't last as long in a Provari. In a regular tube mode, you can stack batteries for higher voltages and the batteries will last longer that way.

So, when you're comparing, try to compare apples with apples. The Provari really isn't like a RoughStack or GGTS or GLV or other battery stacker tube mod.

Hey man! Let's just agree to disagree. Based on your description, the only thing I left out was the regulated part, and the fact that you can't stack batteries. I still stand by my evaluation that it most closely resembles the "tube mod" platform. It's a regulated, boosted 18650 tube mod lol.. I would'nt Lump it in with the precise or GG stuff, but it's definately the same idea as let's say the buzz or VV infinity, neither of which use the same technology as something like the Darwin.

Either way, both are nice and I am in no way a provari hater, I just prefer the newest technology in my expensive smoke toys lol!
 

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I've had my eye on the Provari for about a week. I think it looks great, and has received many great reviews. The tech in the Darwin is interesting, but it is on the high side price wise, and I know it sounds silly, but I don't like the way it looks. Every time I see a picture of the Provari with a Liquinator on it, it gets harder and harder to NOT order it :)

I'm still new to vaping, and want to get a handle on all the equipment I have already and on the way before I buy another mod.

I'll second Chinners' vote on the REO (although I'm liking the mini more than the grand lately - fits nicer in the hand), even though you're not looking at it due to the GLV 3 purchase. The only reason I didn't order a GLV 3 was because I had already ordered the REO, so I went with the GLV 2 mini instead :)

When you price your provari, be sure to include extra for the 18650 end cap and the warranty, and any batteries and chargers you'll need assuming you don't have that stuff already. I saw a breakdown on price somewhere, and they're almost identical in price.

I will agree though that the Darwin is somewhat fugly lol.. No different then loving an ugly child, or a mangy dog, somehow you just end up loving it!

Also love reo's, and joked on another thread about how happy I'd be if they made a reo woodvil with Darwin internals. That would be vape heaven in my books!
 

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Does anyone know if they are fixing the Eq because for a bit more than Provari or Darwin you would be getting an automatic feeder with an advanced PV

True enough, Drac. Though unlike the ProVari, the EQ doesn't have multimeter functionality built in. And its menu system is more complicated than it needs to be. No alphanumeric display either.

Its electric-pump feeding thing is excellent...a lot better than just squeezing a bottle, like most other feeders do. So if juice-feeding is important to you, it's definitely worth considering the EQ. If ease of use & multimeter functionality are more important, it's ProVari for the win.
 

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    You could just stick a Vape-O-Matic Liquinator on top of a Darwin or Provari.

    I'm kind of interested in whether the Boge Revolution will finally get it all right. They're up to 2.1, now. I wouldn't be interested in waiting for the EQ Personal Vaporizer to finally get all of the kinks worked out. That system is much more complicated.

    As far as a multimeter goes, you can still get a cheap voltage display from MadVapes. Not as convenient as something built in sure, but how often do you plan on changing the voltage? If you need to tweak it, you can probably do that blindly.

    Ok, so it would be nice to have a mod that just combines the best features of all the mods out there. But, apparently, that can get weirdly complicated and more fragile. So, if you're willing to concede the automatic juice feeding function, you might be happy with combining a Liquinator, MAP Tank or VapeMate Juice Feeder with a VV mod. There are a few bottom feeder wood mods with VV.
     
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    Does anyone know if they are fixing the Eq because for a bit more than Provari or Darwin you would be getting an automatic feeder with an advanced PV

    The real problem with the eq is that they apparently do not warranty the juice pump, otherwise it definately looks promising!
     
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    True enough, Drac. Though unlike the ProVari, the EQ doesn't have multimeter functionality built in. And its menu system is more complicated than it needs to be. No alphanumeric display either.

    Its electric-pump feeding thing is excellent...a lot better than just squeezing a bottle, like most other feeders do. So if juice-feeding is important to you, it's definitely worth considering the EQ. If ease of use & multimeter functionality are more important, it's ProVari for the win.


    Lol.. Speaking of menu systems that are over complicated, don't you have a provari?? ;)

    Ease of use and multmeter function makes provari a win?

    The Darwin has no menu system to navigate. Not only does it show voltage, amperage, and ohm's at all times when vaping, it actually self adjusts mid-vape like 100/second to compensate for any change in resistance.

    I'm not picking on you Rachel, but the op needs all the facts if he's going to spend the big bucks here.

    It also begs the question, have you ever used a Darwin?
     

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    Thats it then. It is between the Darwin and the Provari. GF just told me to get one today and the other one next month. Since they have the Darwin in stock and a 2 week wait for the Provari it will be the Darwin tonight and then the Provari next month. Thank you for all your help. I would have been lost without it.
    Drac
     

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    You could just stick a Vape-O-Matic Liquinator on top of a Darwin or Provari.

    I'm kind of interested in whether the Boge Revolution will finally get it all right. They're up to 2.1, now. I wouldn't be interested in waiting for the EQ Personal Vaporizer to finally get all of the kinks worked out. That system is much more complicated.

    As far as a multimeter goes, you can still get a cheap voltage display from MadVapes. Not as convenient as something built in sure, but how often do you plan on changing the voltage? If you need to tweak it, you can probably do that blindly.

    Ok, so it would be nice to have a mod that just combines the best features of all the mods out there. But, apparently, that can get weirdly complicated and more fragile. So, if you're willing to concede the automatic juice feeding function, you might be happy with combining a Liquinator, MAP Tank or VapeMate Juice Feeder with a VV mod. There are a few bottom feeder wood mods with VV.

    I agree on the revolution. If they could only find a way to get the stupid thing to stop leaking, I'd be all over It for the price.
     

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    Thats it then. It is between the Darwin and the Provari. GF just told me to get one today and the other one next month. Since they have the Darwin in stock and a 2 week wait for the Provari it will be the Darwin tonight and then the Provari next month. Thank you for all your help. I would have been lost without it.
    Drac


    Hahah congrats! There is wisdom here!

    I'm shocked that neither Rachel or I thought to recommend getting both, but after further reflection, I believe that would have been the best advice!

    Now you must report back here when you get them and give a review! Thanks for the fun conversation!
     

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    I like my boge, other than the battery and the bottle cover on bottom falling off. I use it more as a pt though. fill a bottle, toss a carto on and I'm good for a few days. I also use other devices though as well.

    I looked at the eq as well. another menu I don't want to remember. I got a new guitar pedal tonight. I have to learn those... I don't want to study to use my vape machine. I wanna fill it and vape, charge em up when needed. if it has lots of functions I want usb connectivity and on screen programming. I'd pay more for that. I need/want convenience. I am smart with some things and pretty dumb with others LOL. flashing light sequences were the most aggravating thing about programming electronic speed controls, that I always bought castle stuff so I can set crap on screen. 30 seconds or running through sequences 4 or 5 times cuz you lost track counting beeps arghhh. my pv isn't gonna be that.
     

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    What a load of crap Rachel, no offense.

    Please enlighten me as to how the provari is far superior in many ways? The provari is nice, but that's a pretty strong endorsement. Jack has Darwin in stock, and the only thing better then Evolv's customer service is Jack's. So again, please elaborate?

    Hey look! A balanced review! How about that!

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-generation-showdown-darwin-vs-provari.html

    You didn't expect anything else did you? We all know there is only one VV device in the world :lol:
     
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