More teens now try vaping than smoking

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Vaslovik

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For my part I'd much rather they did! If they are going to do either it's far healthier than BT's products! About 95% healthier from all I've gathered, and I don't want to hear that noise about a gateway to smoking. vaping knocks the shine right off of smoking pronto!

More teens now try vaping than smoking
 

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According to the stats from the UK, the vast, vast majority of teens who vape and continue to vape are the ones who used to smoke. The numbers of teens who never smoked, tried vaping and continue to vape are so small that they are negligible.
 

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I would rather them do it too. I started smoking cigarettes in high school and it lead to a 20+ year addiction. Vaping is at least 95% safer. Also what they don't say is most of them use 0 nicotine. Hence no addiction.

I'm with you there Yiana! I recently ran into a guy I went to high school with. He was towing around an oxygen tank with hoses in his nose. I remembered him well as one of the boys who smoked in the boys room.
 

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Hey. New here but not to vaping. Joined here the day regs came out. Saw this on the news tonight. I thought the same as others. Glad they are vaping and not smoking. Gateway is BS. Would have loved to have vaping as an alternative when I started smoking in high school. Glad I have it now.
 

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I have 18 and 20 year old sons and I would GREATLY prefer they vaped their first eLiquid over smoking their first cigarette if I had to choose.

People tend to forget that every smoker was a first time smoker, every drug addict was a first time drug user and every alcoholic had their first drink. Most kids will have many "firsts" that may not be great choices!
 
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I understand all of the above commentary. I agree if given the choice, I'd rather a teen vape than smoke. However, until you are a legal adult (18 in some states, 21 in others) you don't have the legal right to make that choice. Nor do the parents of that minor.

When I once worked in a vape shop in Ohio, we carded anyone who looked to be under 30 years old. Legal age to buy cigarettes in Ohio was 18. If you couldn't prove your age, or were under the age of 18, you could not purchase anything in our store.

We even had the parents of a 16 year old boy come in with their son, asking for an ecigarette to help him quit smoking. He'd already been smoking for a couple of years. We couldn't sell them an e-cigarette knowing it was for a non-adult. We had to deny them. As a business, the salesman and the business owner could be prosecuted by a hefty fine and jail time, as well as the parents of the underage user.
 

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I understand all of the above commentary. I agree if given the choice, I'd rather a teen vape than smoke. However, until you are a legal adult (18 in some states, 21 in others) you don't have the legal right to make that choice. Nor do the parents of that minor.

When I once worked in a vape shop in Ohio, we carded anyone who looked to be under 30 years old. Legal age to buy cigarettes in Ohio was 18. If you couldn't prove your age, or were under the age of 18, you could not purchase anything in our store.

We even had the parents of a 16 year old boy come in with their son, asking for an ecigarette to help him quit smoking. He'd already been smoking for a couple of years. We couldn't sell them an e-cigarette knowing it was for a non-adult. We had to deny them. As a business, the salesman and the business owner could be prosecuted by a hefty fine and jail time, as well as the parents of the underage user.
Can't argue with the need to protect minors. I look back now and can't believe our local stores didn't ask for ID more for analogs.
 

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Huh. You think they'd have known to be slicker than that.
I applaud their openess and honesty with their sincere attempt to help their son to stop smoking, but the law is the law if you are a reputable vape shop. They thought that as parents, they had the right to buy an ecig for their children, but Ohio law didn't see it that way. Not only could we have been prosecuted for selling it, but as parents they could have been prosecuted for buying it for a minor.

I had another adult customer looking for an advanced setup allegedly for himself, but it quickly became apparent to me that he didn't know squat and that his teenage son accompanying him was telling him what he should purchase from his research on the internet. I became suspicious that the setup was actually for the teenage son to use recreationally for his own pleasure, so after consulting with my shift manager, I had to refuse to sell anything to this customer (with the blessing of my store manager). It wasn't worth the risk to be breaking the law. We never knew if local law enforcement officers might try to catch us selling to a minor under cover. We lost a sale, but we gained peace of mind.

Of course, there very well have been other vape shops who would have made the sale in both cases. Those are the shops that gave all the other shops a bad name by selling to minors, with their bottom line being another sale is just another sale.
 
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A year or so back I helped set-up my best buddy's son. He was underage for these parts at the time but had been smoking for a few years and bumming money off his mother to buy them. Dad did not like this and was willing to drop 150 bucks plus to get his boy set-up with a good kit. We ordered him the same kit I was using at the time, the ipv mini 2 and an arctic tank with a charger, a couple batts and some juice. After a short time the kid sold it and continues to smoke. His dad made an honest effort to help his son and am sure he is very disappointed with the result. Buds mom lost a lung to cancer from smoking but she still kept puffing, a few short years later he lost her to the big C. The boy had to pay his dad back for the kit he sold off, probably used the cash to buy cigs or "other". Really can't fault the dad or me, by extension for trying to help the boy, legal or not, I'd do it again in a heartbeat without thinking twice. Cheers.
 

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That's normal teen behavior.. I experimented like hell with everything, that's my character, i climbed tries and buildings and fell out of them, i smoked things i shouldn't have and it started with alcohol (oeoeoe, is that the gateway drug? ;) It made me do some dumb stuff :p) Other friends of mine choose not to experiment... that's there character. We are humans.. we do sometimes crazy stuff... including inhaling smoke and vapor and gasoline and paint, even with sex, how many straight girls french kissed another girl? Only to learn and realize they are not, while some of them learned that they really are and etc etc...

If the environment let them and if they have good loving parents often they experiment and move on. A few of them get hooked, but most of them are fine...

but if the parents are neglecting the child or the environment they grow up in is rough... good chance they will remain hooked on it for the rest of their lives..

We are sometimes to curious for our own good, but i guess that makes us, us. Nothing wrong with that if you ask me.
 
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I understand all of the above commentary. I agree if given the choice, I'd rather a teen vape than smoke. However, until you are a legal adult (18 in some states, 21 in others) you don't have the legal right to make that choice. Nor do the parents of that minor.

When I once worked in a vape shop in Ohio, we carded anyone who looked to be under 30 years old. Legal age to buy cigarettes in Ohio was 18. If you couldn't prove your age, or were under the age of 18, you could not purchase anything in our store.

We even had the parents of a 16 year old boy come in with their son, asking for an ecigarette to help him quit smoking. He'd already been smoking for a couple of years. We couldn't sell them an e-cigarette knowing it was for a non-adult. We had to deny them. As a business, the salesman and the business owner could be prosecuted by a hefty fine and jail time, as well as the parents of the underage user.
In a just & prurient universe, the parents/teenager come in to your shop with a Doctors prescription..
 

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