Mouth Inhale Dangerous?

[ignotus]

The atomizer that they used in the study was a top-coil design which, as Dr. Farsalinos suggests, couldn't wick fast enough at 5 volts to prevent dry burning.

Bottom coil designs (like yours) are inherently superior in this regard and allow the user to vape safely at higher wattages.

 

[InTheShade]

Thank you for the info, it at least calms my nerves a little. I think some are having a hard time understanding what I was attempting to ask because of "mouth hitting" term. I was trying to say that if I hit my ecig the way I have always smoked cigarettes (by drawing the smoke into my mouth and then inhaling it into my lungs) I have to use it at around 12 to 15 watts to be satisfied. Now by the study done that suggests I could be subject to high formaldehyde (although the study could also be bogus, however I tend not to shrug things off just because some youtubers made a video of themselves attempting to hit an ecig at 15 watts and have a coughing storm, and claiming no one would use an ecig at that high of wattage. Now I realized that they inhaled like they were smoking a {Moderated} tho (inhaling straight to lungs), which makes a big difference if you havent tried the 2 methods. If I inhale straight to lungs on 15 watts I can barely do it for 1 second and I cough up a lung. I have to put it all the way down to 7 watts to comfortably hit it that way (straight to lung). So my theory was that since I enjoy it better at 15 watts mouth hitting than maybe I should just go back to the patch so I domt cause myself more harm. In conclusion mouth hitting can be tolerated at way high wattage then inhaling straight to lungs.

If you read the actual study and the rebuttal by Dr F (linked in my post above) you will see that no formaldehyde was found in the vapor even when they dry hit the clearomizer at 5 volts.

The thing is only you can make that decision really - vaping is probably not harm free, I don't think many here think it is. I agree with your approach to make vaping the safest you can by being an informed consumer - that is my approach too.

I hope you don't think people are being deliberately evasive with their answers, but I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question, only a best guess based on what we know (and have studies for) right now.

 

[Jimi D.]

I got my very first 3mg with one of those USA made OHM Readers off of eBay just today them sneaky boogers
Guess nobody told them they couldn't do that on eBay..My good fortune I recon. I'll build a .2ohm or a bit lower dual twisted 26ga to celebrate my very first lung punch with 3mg.

LOL !!! Enjoy my brother !

 

[Sirius]

If you read the actual study and the rebuttal by Dr F (linked in my post above) you will see that no formaldehyde was found in the vapor even when they dry hit the clearomizer at 5 volts.

The thing is only you can make that decision really - vaping is probably not harm free, I don't think many here think it is. I agree with your approach to make vaping the safest you can by being an informed consumer - that is my approach too.

I hope you don't think people are being deliberately evasive with their answers, but I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question, only a best guess based on what we know (and have studies for) right now.

SWAG you mean..yeah I'm pretty good at SWAG myself. (Scientific Wild A** Guess) I recon we have to be with such propaganda and lack of real peer review papers out there on the subject.

 

[Colonel Cthulhu]

I don't get the full flavor of my juice if I Lung hit it... Wonder what I'm doing wrong.

 

[Sirius]

LOL !!! Enjoy my brother !

Thnx Jimi bro..I think I will.

 

[Jhump]

The atomizer that they used in the study was a top-coil design which, as Dr. Farsalinos suggests, couldn't wick fast enough at 5 volts to prevent dry burning.

Bottom coil designs (like yours) are inherently superior in this regard and allow the user to vape safely at higher wattages.

Thank you, I saw where he pointed out the difference between the two coil locations and I assumed the bottom coil was more efficient, but didnt want to start asking this too in the mix while I was still attempting to get ppl to understand the original post lol. I really do appreciate you looking into it, I now feel alot better. Appologies for the confusion of my post, i vaped when it first came out but qent back to smoking after it didnt hit the spot. The new ecig setups are nore powerful and are enough to satify my unfortunate addiction. So I guess you could say im still new to the whole thing and my post was probably hard to understand.

 

[choochoogranny]

Hey, Colonel, it could be you're too quickly by-passing your taste buds......none in the lungs.

 

[Jhump]

If you read the actual study and the rebuttal by Dr F (linked in my post above) you will see that no formaldehyde was found in the vapor even when they dry hit the clearomizer at 5 volts.

The thing is only you can make that decision really - vaping is probably not harm free, I don't think many here think it is. I agree with your approach to make vaping the safest you can by being an informed consumer - that is my approach too.

I hope you don't think people are being deliberately evasive with their answers, but I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question, only a best guess based on what we know (and have studies for) right now.

Thanks bud, and no I wasnt offended by the replies, just a little fustrated in trying to type it so you guys could understand it. I agree with you and understand no one can answer the question of long term affects, but was just still looking for more experienced vapors opinions. Everyone else I know inhales to lungs and uses sub ohm which when they vape they usually fall under 5 volts when calculated, and I just wanted to see if any other mouth hitters (for the lack of a better term) used the same w/v as I do seeing as it can be tolerated at a higher power (or at least for me it can).

 

[Colonel Cthulhu]

Hey, Colonel, it could be you're too quickly by-passing your taste buds......none in the lungs.

So inhale slower? I just tried and still same issue.

 

[Robino1]

Thanks bud, and no I wasnt offended by the replies, just a little fustrated in trying to type it so you guys could understand it. I agree with you and understand no one can answer the question of long term affects, but was just still looking for more experienced vapors opinions. Everyone else I know inhales to lungs and uses sub ohm which when they vape they usually fall under 5 volts when calculated, and I just wanted to see if any other mouth hitters (for the lack of a better term) used the same w/v as I do seeing as it can be tolerated at a higher power (or at least for me it can).

Term is usually mouth to lung. So we have those, like me, mouth to lung. Or direct lung.

 

[Bunnykiller]

if somebody took the time to understand what was written in the report...

burning juice produces a chemical that can become formaldehyde with the right combination of other chemicals... burnt juice doesnt create formaldehyde...

 

[Ablonz]

As a mouth to lung hitter as well, drawing at that high of voltage as long as the wick stays wet (like Robino1 said in first response ), shouldn't create and more harm than hitting it @ 3.3 volts (I am NOT a Doctor or Scientist). Everyone is different and what works for them may not work for the next person. As far as direct lung hits, as long as nic level is way down, I can handle it without coughing. I have even hit my sub tank @ 100 watts (mouth to lung) on the rba section of it which comes out to 8.0 volts and experienced great flavor and would vape that as long as I did not mind doing primer puffs to re wet the wick after taking only a half a second draw each time but that I personally don't want to waste time doing that IMO.

 

[Sirius]

if somebody took the time to understand what was written in the report...

burning juice produces a chemical that can become formaldehyde with the right combination of other chemicals... burnt juice doesnt create formaldehyde...

I suppose with the right chemicals cyanide could be produced..Oh snap I better hush..don't want to give our enemies any ideas.

 

[Sirius]

As a mouth to lung hitter as well, drawing at that high of voltage as long as the wick stays wet (like Robino1 said in first response ), shouldn't create and more harm than hitting it @ 3.3 volts (I am NOT a Doctor or Scientist). Everyone is different and what works for them may not work for the next person. As far as direct lung hits, as long as nic level is way down, I can handle it without coughing. I have even hit my sub tank @ 100 watts (mouth to lung) on the rba section of it which comes out to 8.0 volts and experienced great flavor and would vape that as long as I did not mind doing primer puffs to re wet the wick after taking only a half a second draw each time but that I personally don't want to waste time doing that IMO.

I wouldn't advise you hit 100watts..i've done it and my lungs hated me for it. Oh well..I had the watts to hit sooooo.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I suppose with the right chemicals cyanide could be produced..Oh snap I better hush..don't want to give our enemies any ideas.

apple seeds contain cyanide...

 

[Ablonz]

I wouldn't advise you hit 100watts..i've done it and my lungs hated me for it. Oh well..I had the watts to hit sooooo.

That is why it was ONLY for a half second pull I don't recommend it either, just an example of him running higher voltage.