Moving on from starter kit?

[othereffect]

Hello everyone

I got a ego-C starter kit 4 or 5 months ago, and I've been vaping ever since.

I think I'm gonna keep on vaping for a long time. And I see starter kits like Kanger EVOD starter kits, iTazte MVP V2.0. These are much better starter kits than mine.

How can I further enhance my vaping experience? Should I buy these high-quality starter kits? Or should I buy those (I'm not sure what it is) mechanical mods?


I'm willing to splurge quite a bit of cash.


Thanks for reading!

 

[imsoenthused]

I wouldn't suggest a mechanical at this time for you, there is quite a learning curve involved with using them safely. What you want is a nice regulated variable voltage/variable wattage mod. An MVP is a nice choice as far as cheap disposable choices go, the higher end would be something like a Vapor shark, Hanna, or ProVari. In the middle you have a whole bunch of choices, like a Hanna clone, or a z-max, or a lavatube, and a lot more.

 

[Susan~S]

+1 for the iTaste MVP v2. A great battery!

 

[pokemom]

I would move up to a vv battery, and possibly a protank/aerotank or nautilus set-up. Still very user friendly, but a huge step up from what you have been using.

Battery style will make a difference in what you get. Do you want to stay with the thinner ego style, move on to a "thicker" device, or on to a box style device would be the first question.


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[Harleybarbie]

Innokin MVP 2.0 Aspire Nautilus! Best priced set up on the planet.
If your verified in the classifieds and have a PayPal account...

I would buy a used ProVari 2.5 a couple batteries, a nautilus or two coils for the nautilus, and a battery charger.
If your not...
The ProVari's on Provape's website are American made, have a year warranty, they will service them for you, even after the warranty runs out, and they are built like Sherman Tanks! Check the clearance on Provape's website they sell Blems and most people can't find a blemish anywhere on their ProVari
www.provape.com
Good luck!

 

[inswva]

Another vote for a MVP 2.0 topped with a Nautilus mini. That combination is light years ahead of an eGo and cheap clearo. Not a huge cash outlay, either.

 

[Baditude]

 

[Equilibrium]

Another vote for the MVP 2.0

It's the logical next step. It was for me anyway.

 

[SunshinePete]

I went from ego batteries to a Cool Fire 1, which is a fine mod and great value, but I soon suffered from Adjustment Envy. So I would say go for an adjustable mod, possibly following the crushing weight of opinion in favour of an MVP2.

 

[Shipmonster]

This may just me, but I didn't like wasting the money working my way up the food chain. And I wish now that instead of people telling me to move up incrementally, that they would've given me my box mod (DNA 30) with a dripping atty to begin with. I'm technically inclined so I didn't find anything difficult with making coils and adjusting wattage. To be honest when I was using my variable wattage e pen thing everyone starts with, I had a terrible time working the cartomizers, tanks or whatever someone told me to put on. Constant fiddling with the ignition area coupled with gurgling and funky hits kept me on analogues for the last few years.

I'd rather have just been shown the real deal, dripping atomizers with a mod, in the 1st place. This is a personal opinion, but I just hate taking steps and wasting time. lol

 

[Supergrover]

I went from Starters, to VV, to VV/VW, to Mechs.

Honestly I wish I went straight to Mechs.

I would get a nice Mech mod and a aerotank mega.
I use a mega on my 1:1 morpheus clone and stingray x in 18350, it is a nice vape, looks sexy as hell. And I can switch it to 18650, put on an RDA and go supervape.

Building and wicking coils is not as hard as some people make it out to be, unless your blind, or have an IQ of a rock.
But it is not for everyone, if it interests you, I would do your research and get into it

 

[DoomiteAsh]

I upgraded to an MVP from my VV ego-style battery, and have been happy with the MVP so far. I do want to eventually get a mech, but not for a couple more months. Building coils/wicking looks easy enough from the stuff I've seen, and the more stuff I'm learning on here the more confident I am that I'll have a good experience with a mech mod. Get the MVP, you'll probably be happy with it.

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[tj99959]

The only problems with the MVP is it's still a disposable, and they cheat you out of the opportunity to LEARN about batteries.
I would suggest any one of the better quality VV or VW APVs that you choose what type of battery you put in it.

 

[Evie Luv]

I'm moving up from my Halo starter kit, tinkering with other things. Honestly I still use my Triton everyday, I prefer it while in public or at work and it is essential to stealth vaping for me. I couldn't have skipped straight to mech mods, RDA, RBA, my iTaste 134 mini or my Vamo 5. I would have choked and puked on the clouds I get with some of these devices and my lungs were NO where near ready for that. Plus vaping has a learning curve that just takes hands on experience to get there.

Sure a mech mod & RDA is easy when you take the time to learn to build your own coils. I would never recommend a mech mod to someone just starting because I don't want un-educated people using unsafe batteries, chargers, not understanding ohms law, not using a resistance meter etc. Vapers have a responibility to vape safely or we are just hurting ourselves in the end. Just my opinion.

 

[realsis]

This may just me, but I didn't like wasting the money working my way up the food chain. And I wish now that instead of people telling me to move up incrementally, that they would've given me my box mod (DNA 30) with a dripping atty to begin with. I'm technically inclined so I didn't find anything difficult with making coils and adjusting wattage. To be honest when I was using my variable wattage e pen thing everyone starts with, I had a terrible time working the cartomizers, tanks or whatever someone told me to put on. Constant fiddling with the ignition area coupled with gurgling and funky hits kept me on analogues for the last few years.

I'd rather have just been shown the real deal, dripping atomizers with a mod, in the 1st place. This is a personal opinion, but I just hate taking steps and wasting time. lol

I have to agree with you. For me personally, I also wish I was shown a more advanced variable wattage device and RDA sooner. I still would have taken the time required to learn how to use these mods safely and learn ohms law and apply the applications to my building. I just would have learned it sooner, rather than later. It would have saved me a LOT of money in my equipment progression. Just because someone is new, in my opinion, if they are willing to learn it does not mean they can't understand what it takes to safely and successfully learn what is needed to know about building coils, battery safety, and proper application of these techniques on a more advanced set up. They key is if they are willing and ready to learn. We all had to start at the beginning when learning to do builds and when we moved foward to a more advanced system. That said I think it's important that the new person be willing and ready to learn. This will vary on a individual basis. Some won't be ready and that's ok. But some will. Or at least should be given the option to safely and successfully move foward to a more advanced unit if interest is shown on their part to learn. It's going to be on a individual basis. But at least they should be aware the opportunity exists for them. I quickly went through about seven different units searching for something better and if I was introduced and given the opportunity to learn sooner rather than later I would have saved a whole lot of money. But this does very much depend on the individual. But if someone is willing to learn, then why not suggest a more advanced unit? Providing of course they properly learn how to use the equipment and are willing to learn and apply ohms law and proper safety precaution. Some are ready to learn sooner than others. It's on a individual basis.not everyone.wants to learn and that's ok. But for those that do want to learn, they should be able to. Just because they are new, does not mean they can't learn. I don't think that they should be discouraged from learning .not everyone will be satisified with a ego. They should also be aware more advanced units are available.if they are willing to learn the proper saftey measures and learn what is required to vape safely and responsible, then they shouldn't be discouraged..that's just my opinion.

 

[imsoenthused]

Nobody said no RDAs or no higher wattage mods. Just no mechanicals. I stand by my opinion that people can learn lots, including rebuildables of all types, much more safely on a decent variable device. The MVP qualifies, although I personally think it is too low powered and its disposable construction offends me. I would probably pick a cheap dna30 clone if I was in the OPs shoes. They're fairly cheap and powerful enough to let someone play with an RDA if they're interested. There aren't any really nice 50-100 watt devices available yet,but I feel like they're right around the corner, which makes buying an expensive higher end variable a bad investment right now unless your experienced enough to know that you'll never be bothered by its limitations.

 

[HecticEnergy]

personally I dont think anyone should start on a mech right away. even looking at the DNA devices and lower just adds so much for the beginner to look at.
I suggest the new vaper start with an MVP2. Its a great intermediary device.You can vape tanks on it, or higher resistance rebuildables. From there you can try different things and see what is for you while you are learning. I think the MVP is a great middle ground with a lower learning curve. I think after that first device it makes it easier to know what you are looking to get out of vaping. Personally I was on egos with a few different tanks for 3 months before jumping up to a SiD (15w device) to do some rebuilding. at the time 30w devices were way out of my pricerange, and i didn't want to start on a mech due to the reduced safety built into the device. That gave me time to learn about battery safety and and play with some 1ohm+ builds. I dont feel the 4 devices I bought were a waste of money, though starting withan MVP2 would have saved me a bit - i didn't like the formfactor of those devices initially (but now I prefer box mods...)
For OP specifically - since you have some experience, it all depends on what you want out of vaping. Do you see this becoming a hobby? do you want try rebuilding your own atomizers? or do you plan to use tanks with prebuilt heads exclusively?

If you are going to use prebuilt tanks 30w devices are overkill IMO. Most tank coils are happy around 8w. much higher than that and you could pop the coil (where the resistance wire that is the coil breaks) or at least get some harsh/nasty dry hits. the MVP goes up to 11w.
After ego's I knew I would get into rebuilding.
If you know you will get into rebuildables, I'd say jump right in to a 30w+ device like an IPV or some DNA variant (DNAShark, Hana, ZNA, etc).

hth

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[Prometheus72]

I don't think the learning curve is THAT steep guys. Learning to rebuild the way to go..and getting a VV/VW device and another tank system isn't going to get him any closer to rebuilding or getting an ultimate vape.

If he wants to learn rebuilding now is as good a time as any. Yes...there is a learning curve....but i don't agree that it's THAT steep. If you want to learn to rebuild....starting watching videos, learning about ohms and battery safety etc. Don't just blindly start rebuilding and to be safe, make sure you're staying out of the sub-ohm area until you really know what you're doing.

The initial investment might be a bit more getting some decent 30amp batteries, an ohm reader, wire, rba/rda etc and mechanical mods (or even VV/VW devices if you never plan to sub ohm) but in the end, you'll save money and have a much better vape. More importantly, you won't be at the mercy of premade coils and the costs of having to replace them all the time. Wick & Wire doesn't cost much at all man.

100ft of 28 gauge $5.00
Bag of Organic cotton $2.00 this equals wick/coils for a year easily

 

[Prometheus72]

Nobody said no RDAs or no higher wattage mods. Just no mechanicals. I stand by my opinion that people can learn lots, including rebuildables of all types, much more safely on a decent variable device. The MVP qualifies, although I personally think it is too low powered and its disposable construction offends me. I would probably pick a cheap dna30 clone if I was in the OPs shoes. They're fairly cheap and powerful enough to let someone play with an RDA if they're interested. There aren't any really nice 50-100 watt devices available yet,but I feel like they're right around the corner, which makes buying an expensive higher end variable a bad investment right now unless your experienced enough to know that you'll never be bothered by its limitations.

not YET....but very very soon! 50-100watt devices I mean

 

[HecticEnergy]

I don't think the learning curve is THAT steep guys. Learning to rebuild the way to go..and getting a VV/VW device and another tank system isn't going to get him any closer to rebuilding or getting an ultimate vape.

If he wants to learn rebuilding now is as good a time as any. Yes...there is a learning curve....but i don't agree that it's THAT steep. If you want to learn to rebuild....starting watching videos, learning about ohms and battery safety etc. Don't just blindly start rebuilding and to be safe, make sure you're staying out of the sub-ohm area until you really know what you're doing.

The initial investment might be a bit more getting some decent 30amp batteries, an ohm reader, wire, rba/rda etc and mechanical mods (or even VV/VW devices if you never plan to sub ohm) but in the end, you'll save money and have a much better vape. More importantly, you won't be at the mercy of premade coils and the costs of having to replace them all the time. Wick & Wire doesn't cost much at all man.

100ft of 28 gauge $5.00
Bag of Organic cotton $2.00 this equals wick/coils for a year easily

I think for a new vaper its just information overload to try and consider ALL products, especially since less than 30% of all vapers actually get into rbas. Some are happy with egos, but I think most would be happy with the MVP. Sure its a "disposable" but it should last more than a year, and by that time there will likely be bigger and better on the market, or you'll be looking to upgrade to a higher wattage device.
But OP isn't a new vaper, thats why I said MVP2 or 30w+ mod, you can sub ohms 30w devices, just down to .6 or so depending on the device.
I got my mech mostly because I like the smaller formfactor (4nine).

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