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There's a few really good threads on natural extractions, whether it's tobacco, coffee or tea the same principle can be applied. I do this for my Caramel Macchiato vape :)

After dabbling in natural tea extraction I was thinking about trying coffee next. Any chance you remember where there is a good thread on extracting coffee beans for a natural ejuice...
 

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the draw is very hard on the passthru I have, but is better
on the bigger devices.

Just remembered something else - how long has it been since you cleaned the threads on your passthrough (q tip and alcohol)? For some reason with 808s, when your tank gets a little clogged, it tends to leak onto the battery threads more (not less, as would seem logical). And if the threads of your battery are even a little gunked up, that can further impede the air flow.

I had a situation where I thought the mini tank was the problem - and it was - but even though the draw was great after I cleaned it, it was still too tight once it was on the battery. Turned out, it was the tank *and* the battery, and the threads needed cleaning. That's why I always check the draw of the tank after I've cleaned it, while it's still empty, and before I screw it back on.

That's not to say the tank isn't the problem, because it sounds like it is, but sometimes gunk in the threads of your battery can make the problem worse... so check both, just in case.
 

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Well all I know is that I will have to try and save a bit of funds from when I get paid on the 22nd so I can get a few of my favorites, Red Apple, Hazelnut and a few others, but going to get some flavorings. This will the first chance I have had to place an order for 2 months! I probably will just get 1 or 2 on payday then try and save for Black Friday, I hope! :facepalm:

How's the red apple compared to green apple? I recently tried the green apple, I like it quite a bit, tastes more of apple peel to me.
 

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Just remembered something else - how long has it been since you cleaned the threads on your passthrough (q tip and alcohol)? For some reason with 808s, when your tank gets a little clogged, it tends to leak onto the battery threads more (not less, as would seem logical). And if the threads of your battery are even a little gunked up, that can further impede the air flow.

I had a situation where I thought the mini tank was the problem - and it was - but even though the draw was great after I cleaned it, it was still too tight once it was on the battery. Turned out, it was the tank *and* the battery, and the threads needed cleaning. That's why I always check the draw of the tank after I've cleaned it, while it's still empty, and before I screw it back on.

That's not to say the tank isn't the problem, because it sounds like it is, but sometimes gunk in the threads of your battery can make the problem worse... so check both, just in case.

Just cleaned it a few minutes ago (after you posted). I'm sure it could use it but that wasn't the issue
with the clearo. The paper clip through the hole didn't help any.
Might just try rinsing it out with hot water tomorrow and a different juice tomorrow night.
Clearo is doing fine on the bigger mod tho. Gotta go but will be here tomorrow. Good night
everyone!
 

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Clearo is doing fine on the bigger mod tho. Gotta go but will be here tomorrow. Good night
everyone!

That's a good sign, means hot water will probably do the trick. Have a good night!

Oh, and one last thing for now - If the hot water fixes the situation and the tank will draw well by itself and on other batteries, but it still won't draw well on the passthrough, and the passthrough is a manual battery, then the problem might be the battery.

Manual 808s have a very thin beading of what I think is silicone run right along the edges of the connection point, all the way around. That layer is to hold the clearo/carto slightly away from the connection in order to allow for air flow (similar to the pin of an ego - the pin makes the connection itself, while the area around the pin is held slightly away from the battery). If that silicone breaks down, peels away, or gets stripped by lots of tank switching or overtightening, your air flow will be drastically reduced. You can *sort of* get around it by figuring out which portion of the battery has the most silicone remaining, screwing the tank on *just* enough to make the connection (much less than finger tight) and then putting pressure on the point between the battery and the tank - think holding a pencil with your index and middle finger on one side and your thumb on the other, and pushing your thumb toward the space between your two fingers.

(Can you tell I had to do this for a week or so? :D)

It's not a long term solution, nor something I'd recommend, because it puts a lot of stress on that connection point, but it does work in a pinch to keep the bum battery working while you wait for a replacement.

Again, I doubt this is your problem - it sounds like it's just sediment in the clearo, and that the passthrough is giving you a harder time because it's physically smaller, thus less room for air flow, and a more dramatic difference when the airflow is compromised - but it's something to be aware of for the future.
 
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After dabbling in natural tea extraction I was thinking about trying coffee next. Any chance you remember where there is a good thread on extracting coffee beans for a natural ejuice...

I actually did a slightly modified tobacco extraction method. Basically in a clean and sanitized 4oz jelly jar put 33cc (1oz is close enough) scoop of freshly med fine ground coffee with 50ml of PG and lightly screw on the lid. I then place the jar in a small saute pot of water just enough to be below the lid ring, I use a little ceramic thingy to insulate the bottom from direct heat, heat the water to 140-150 degrees and maintain for 8hrs or so then shut off the heat and let sit overnight. Next day at some point I heat up the grinds and PG again as I prepare a jelly strainer (stage 1) to funnel with 2 natural coffee filters (stage 2) and once warm I slowly pour trying to keep as much solids as possible in the jar and it will work it's way thru the set-up :)

One note as the PG cools to room temperature it will be slow goin' thru the coffee filters, a few seconds in the microwave will get the last bit flowin' again....
 

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How's the red apple compared to green apple? I recently tried the green apple, I like it quite a bit, tastes more of apple peel to me.

I have not tried the Green Apple, the Red Apple is very nice and is like a fresh red apple, however that said, it takes a long steep time. When I first got it, it had the taste of red apple on exhale but on inhale it was more like apple peel, so I had put it away to steep, actually thinking it was going to be one of those that wasn't going to change much but after 3 weeks I had another go at it and it to me was fantastic, I always reorder it but as I stated it does require a long steep time. Mine was 50/50 18mg with 3 extra shots. It is one of my personal favorites. It's a sweet juice.
 

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so i didn't really get a response in the reo threads, but maybe some of you may have some ideas?
I've been vaping my reo's all day, and its been awesome. just changed out the cotton and filled the bottles with new juice. literally within 2-3 hits, no cotton taste. awesomesauce.
neither of the juices are mbv...
im really ughed out with them tasting like cotton all the time from only mbv juices.
i'm using super boiled cotton and i did my own 1.3 ohm micro coils!
any tips?
 

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so i didn't really get a response in the reo threads, but maybe some of you may have some ideas?
I've been vaping my reo's all day, and its been awesome. just changed out the cotton and filled the bottles with new juice. literally within 2-3 hits, no cotton taste. awesomesauce.
neither of the juices are mbv...
im really ughed out with them tasting like cotton all the time from only mbv juices.
i'm using super boiled cotton and i did my own 1.3 ohm micro coils!
any tips?

I haven't the foggiest, but all your trials and tribulations are making me want to bone up on reos for the sole purpose of trying to help you out! I hate not being able to figure out solutions to problems, including problems not my own. :) I seriously doubt I'll be able to be much help at all, but I've got some time on my hands over the next day or two, so I'm going to poke around and see what I might be able to figure out by proxy. Worst case scenario, I'll be no help whatsoever but I'll know more about reos... best case, maybe we can get your MBV juice tasting how it should.
 

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I haven't the foggiest, but all your trials and tribulations are making me want to bone up on reos for the sole purpose of trying to help you out! I hate not being able to figure out solutions to problems, including problems not my own. :) I seriously doubt I'll be able to be much help at all, but I've got some time on my hands over the next day or two, so I'm going to poke around and see what I might be able to figure out by proxy. Worst case scenario, I'll be no help whatsoever but I'll know more about reos... best case, maybe we can get your MBV juice tasting how it should.

this is stones idea: I would guess that it is completely possible that the coil/wick/air combination are bringing something out in the MBV juice that tastes like sweet cotton.

I've apparently got super picky tastes, but like, moo juice in a protank tastes like moo juice, i put it in the reo, it tastes liek sweet cotton, hardly even a slight taste of strawberry. I put a different juice in it, and bam, i taste juice. I'm sad because i like my mbv juices and have over 1000 ml's of them, which i will still use for on the go, but at home my reos quickly today because my at home mods.
it's a conundrum!
 

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Good evening all. Finally caught up. After watching Despicable Me, then Despicable Me2, then Despicable Me again with my niece this evening I got a little bit behind. I've figured out what to get for Christmas now at least a stuffed animal type Minion I think she'll love it. I've been vaping Gummi Bear today mostly.
 

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this is stones idea: I would guess that it is completely possible that the coil/wick/air combination are bringing something out in the MBV juice that tastes like sweet cotton.

I've apparently got super picky tastes, but like, moo juice in a protank tastes like moo juice, i put it in the reo, it tastes liek sweet cotton, hardly even a slight taste of strawberry. I put a different juice in it, and bam, i taste juice. I'm sad because i like my mbv juices and have over 1000 ml's of them, which i will still use for on the go, but at home my reos quickly today because my at home mods.
it's a conundrum!

I've never gotten sweet cotton taste from my juices MBV included.....but I use micro coils in EVERYTHING my reos,evods,protanks, and kayfuns and I might be so used to the cotton taste you are experiencing. Some people swear by cotton while other hate it because they can't get past the cotton taste. I know I always get horrible cotton taste on my fresh wicks but it usually goes through after 10-15 vapes. I can't pinpoint why it's only the MBV juices that give you that taste it should be all or none. I will continue to rack my brain and see if I can come up with anything.


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Good evening all. Finally caught up. After watching Despicable Me, then Despicable Me2, then Despicable Me again with my niece this evening I got a little bit behind. I've figured out what to get for Christmas now at least a stuffed animal type Minion I think she'll love it. I've been vaping Gummi Bear today mostly.

Love me some despicable me those minions get me every time.


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Despicable me was awesome.. Never saw the second one

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It's pretty good. I like the first better slightly. Really enjoy both though even now having seen them quite a few times each recently. Young ones sure can watch the same movies a lot if they like them.
 

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this is stones idea: I would guess that it is completely possible that the coil/wick/air combination are bringing something out in the MBV juice that tastes like sweet cotton.

Just spitballing here, off the top of my head at a silly hour of the night to be troubleshooting, but here goes.

You've got two variables in this equation that could cause an entire brand of juice to give one consistent different result to other brands.

1) Something in MBV juice doesn't play well with cotton wicks. I've never used a cotton wick, so I can't rule this in or out, but it would be worth asking people who *have* used cotton wicks in anything *other* than a reo if they've ever had this issue.

2) Something about the coil is causing MBV juices to taste drastically different. I'd call this unlikely - you can run a coil hotter or cooler, but at the end of the day, a coil is a coil, and if it works with one juice, it should do its job on others. The coil is unlikely to be the cause of the same funky taste from one brand, but not other brands.

Once you subtract the coil and the wick out of the equation, (and the juice, since some juices work and some don't), that leaves you with essentially a battery box that holds juice - what I'm getting at here is as long as it's feeding well, the problem probably isn't the reo *itself*. Hope that makes sense.

So, let's look a little closer at the first possibility - it's something in the MBV juice. (I know you've already come to this conclusion, I'm just working through this as methodically as I can, partly so that it will be easier for people who know more than me to help out.)

If it is the juice, it's likely something in the juice isn't playing well with the wick, as established above.

Variables in juice:

1) the base.
a) The PG (percentage, brand, general quality thereof).
b) The VG ( " " " ).
c) Any other ingredients MBV may use in the makeup of their base.

2) The nicotine. (again, percentage, source and general quality are all potential factors. I think this is a less likely culprit, but that's just gut instinct on my part.)

3) The flavorings. (percentage, source, and general quality, again.)

If it were me - and again, this is all just throwing things at the wall with very minimal knowledge of how a reo works - this is the order in which I'd start trying to figure out which variable is the culprit, from the easiest thing to check to the biggest pain:

1) See what other people's experiences are using cotton with MBV juices in mods that are *not* reos. Then, try a different wicking material.

2) If that yields no answers, get your hands on some MBV PG/VG, throw it together in whatever ratio you usually vape, and see what that tastes like - do you get the "sweet cotton" taste from plain, unflavored base? If so, you can get around it by making your own base and throwing MBV flavorings into that.

3) Least likely, maybe it's the flavorings - but since it's *all* MBV juices you've tried, I'm betting it's either the cotton, or the base itself.

I realize this would be a ton of work and hassle, so I'm not saying you should necessarily go out and *do* all this - it would certainly be less of a headache to just vape other juices in your reo and your MBV juice in your other setups. But barring anyone who can point you in the right direction through personal experience, if I were in your situation and I *did* want to troubleshoot the problem, that's how I'd go about it.

I'm going to keep poking around and see if I can find something a little more useful than "Hey, maybe fixing this could be your new project for the next few months!" but in the meantime, maybe some of this will be helpful, if only to inspire someone else who knows more than I do. :)
 

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you know I just finished vaping cinnamon roll that was pre mixed by MBV in my kayfuns lite which wasent my best experience (very cottony) and now I'm vaping moo juice (which I DIY) in the same tank with the same wick and I'm not getting that same stron cotton.... I thought it was the age of my cinnamon roll at first but I think I'm goin to keep this little theory going and mix up some DIY cinnamon roll tomm and use some pre mixed Spring Break and see what I come up with. Oh my provari isn't goin to see this much use since my pre reo days jus have to avoid gettin nic sick


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Some of my older juices are losing flavor but not my butterscotch.
It's ½ MBV 18mg 80/20 +1 from late April and ½ FW DIY 18mg 70/30 @ 12.5% from June.
It hasn't lost a thing and is making my Evod stuck face very happy :vapor:

I've been dry burning my coils and just replacing the flavor wicks (and reusing the evod posts).
I have 3mm silica so I remove a couple of threads and just use that.
I have no desire to try microcoils with my carpentry & fighting abused hands.
I like how the stock coils perform.
I'd just like to replace the flavor wicks with stock size silica when they get cruddy.
What size are those flavor wicks in the PT/Evod heads?
 
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