Yes suppliers name and addy or website please...
I have never seen 30ml of good 12-48mg juice for $5.00.
Dan
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Yes suppliers name and addy or website please...
I have never seen 30ml of good 12-48mg juice for $5.00.
Dan
Thats why I ran it through a filter twice, first one I squeezed, second I just let drip through.
Dan
health cabin is the supplier. Email the admin asking for a price list. The only catch is u need to order 5 or more 30ml bottles. I bought 10 bottles of various flavors (ry4,cola,flue etc..) the total including 5 day shipping was $72.50/
The juice is the stuff your used too getting, its from dekang and has expiration/production dates, and child safe caps.
The juice is the stuff your used too getting, its from dekang and has expiration/production dates, and child safe caps.
Uh ....
30ml E-juice with 26 popular flavors
- Strength - 24mg
- Flavor - No Flavor
E-Juice : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail
Direct link please....
Dan
I've seen commercial portable water filters on the internet for $95 or so. They filter down to .2 micron and are used to remove microscopic critters from water. A bacteria is .2 to 2 microns. Molecules are measured in angstroms (A molecule of hydrogen is 1.5 angstroms.) .2 microns is 2000 angstroms so the nicotine would definitely make it through the filter. I'm thinking if a more potent snus is used (I have seen 16mg/g) one could just soak it out in water, use a coffee filter for coarse filtering, and then send it through a portable water filter to accomplish the fine filtering. If all of the nicotine is removed from a 45g can of snus at 16mg/g you would end up with 720mg of nicotine for about 4 bucks. You could reduce it on the stove to whatever base concentration you wanted and then mix it with your PG and vape away. Sounds simple doesn't it? I bet it's not that simple. Wish I had an extra 95 bucks to try it out though.
If you used vodka 40% alc it would reduce faster and leave you with 50% or less water. But a great idea, have a link I will try it out!
Dan
Can't post links yet but a google search will yield a bunch of them. Looks like some have integral carbon filters which would probably capture the nic. Also the best candidate would be one that requires the least amount of source water to operate.
Maybe we should start a new thread about this in case there are some folks with chemistry skills out there who could comment on the potential of the idea.
look at this one - Nano Technology 530 Gallon Camper's Micro Ceramic Water Filter
If u actually read my post, u would see that i said to EMAIL the admin on the site, and ASK for a pricelist for 5 or more bottles. You seem so sure that I am making this up..I would love to see your face when u find out that its true. Oh and if u buy 5 510 kits (true 510), they work out to be $24 a piece..or 5 for $142 shipped. But all of the transaction process needs to be handled via email w/ Amy from healthcabin.
Ok then 72.50/10 = 7.25 that still is not 5.00 a bottle, where are the 5.00 30 ml bottles you claim, I guess it is fuzzy math. I do not doubt that if I ASK for a price list from most manufaturers in China that I will get a reduced price for buying in bulk. But to drop in and say you can get it for 5.00 is BS if you include shipping, I was comparing this to a distributer such as Johnson creek which are 19.95 a bottle and have a more consistant quality, I did read your post and with shipping, which I always figure into the price is not 5.00 a bottle. If I wanted that cheap of ejuice I would buy 1 liter of 28mg juice for $78.00 + $25.00 shipping for a total of $103.00, which equals out to $2.88 a 30ml bottle including shipping. But that is not what this thread is about, this is about find a way to make your own. No it wont be cheaper but it is the satisfation of knowing what is actually going into the juice. I know what the ingredients are, and not what someone overseas says they are.
Dont worry I believe you I do not doubt the pice list says $5.00 a bottle for quantities over 5, thanks for the information but I can get it cheaper if that is what this thread was about.
Dan
Your math is correct. w/ shipping its roughly 7$ a bottle shipped. Still, much cheaper than most..=)
Dont be quick to assume that this e-liquid is low quALITY, because any place besides JC sells this exact e-liquid. They might repackage or rename it, but its the same thing.
Puresmokers riskee is sold here, but under a different name, and its $5 (not including $2.25 shipping)
Anyway, you have fun with your project. We dont need to discuss cheap ejuice in this subforum any longer.
Dont be quick to assume that this e-liquid is low quALITY, because any place besides JC sells this exact e-liquid. They might repackage or rename it, but its the same thing.
Puresmokers riskee is sold here, but under a different name, and its $5 (not including $2.25 shipping)
Anyway, you have fun with your project. We dont need to discuss cheap ejuice in this subforum any longer.
Scubabatdan:
Your successes here are as innovative as the DIY flavors threads.
I vape zero-nic, but for those who use nic, this thread is approaching legend status.
Good work!
Your successes here are as innovative as the DIY flavors threads.
I vape zero-nic, but for those who use nic, this thread is approaching legend status.
Good work!
I been reading around on how to extract the nicotine from tobacco. And what I think you guys are getting is the freebase effect. Me personally, I would not smoke what you guys are making. None of the tobacco you buy, unless from a farmer is natural, and american spirt tobacco is the highest content of freebase nicotine.
I am no expert but you could be condenseing god knows what.
From what I am reading the process to extract nicotine is almost the same as extracting ....... from a coca leaf. Which is "cleaner" than the process for corn syrup, but still without testing you do not know what you have and what was extracted.
Maybe go buy a few feeder rats and test on them for a few months before ingesting what your making.
I not gonna go into what it all is, as I am no expert, but a few links might help you.
2. Smoking smarter?
An older link that talks about extraction of nicotine.
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And if you dig around on the net you can find actual rj reynolds extraction docs. From what I saw they use kerosene as the solvent. Extracting alkaloids has been done for a very long time. My looking into it is done in case it is made illegal, then I can see growing and extracting my own juice, until then I will use the tested and known juice.
The sciencemadness thread has a extraction process, good luck!
I am no expert but you could be condenseing god knows what.
From what I am reading the process to extract nicotine is almost the same as extracting ....... from a coca leaf. Which is "cleaner" than the process for corn syrup, but still without testing you do not know what you have and what was extracted.
Maybe go buy a few feeder rats and test on them for a few months before ingesting what your making.
I not gonna go into what it all is, as I am no expert, but a few links might help you.
2. Smoking smarter?
An older link that talks about extraction of nicotine.
Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Powered by XMB 1.9.11
And if you dig around on the net you can find actual rj reynolds extraction docs. From what I saw they use kerosene as the solvent. Extracting alkaloids has been done for a very long time. My looking into it is done in case it is made illegal, then I can see growing and extracting my own juice, until then I will use the tested and known juice.
The sciencemadness thread has a extraction process, good luck!
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the only reason i even tried the snus is it is safe to swallow hence i figure if i can swallow it i can extract it safely in the vg for a while and smoke it. dunno if its safe but it seems to be...think about it snus is being able to be swallowed and then the vg is food grade so i figure its no diffrent then me vaping and using the snus at the same time which i do at work. its waay cheaper and i have plenty of bought nic juice from juicy so im all stocked up for a long while. i wanted to be able to have something in case juice was not able to be imported anymore. gotta find a way. stocked up on the snus and its free again with purchase so with coupons im getting them waay cheaper than i would the nic juice. all in all im a happy person..
Good luck thinking it is safe....
All kinds of very bad stuff is legal to consume, look at corn syrup, look at the GMO foods. Enough money and the FDA will say anything is legal to consume. And look at the snus studies done, drinking spit with nicotine in it is does not have a effect on the lungs and the lungs process stuff way diffirent than your stomach.
Smoke some table salt, or pepper, some things are not interchangable.
But, as I said I am no expert.
All kinds of very bad stuff is legal to consume, look at corn syrup, look at the GMO foods. Enough money and the FDA will say anything is legal to consume. And look at the snus studies done, drinking spit with nicotine in it is does not have a effect on the lungs and the lungs process stuff way diffirent than your stomach.
Smoke some table salt, or pepper, some things are not interchangable.
But, as I said I am no expert.
I decided to try this on a very small scale.
I got a box of mellow snus, and put about five packs of it in a very small container, and added about 60% PGA, 40 % water. I pushed on the bags some and the mixture quickly went dark brown. I am letting it sit capped in a dark area for a few days and then I'll strain it down. I'm more looking to isolate the tobacco flavor than extract nicotine at this time, so I'm not heating it or anything like that, although I know some nic will come out as well anyway.
Since many have already worked with this, any thoughts as to about what amount or percentage of this should be added to a base mixture once it's been strained? I'm just looking for a basic baseline to try and then vary up or down from to get to the right flavor level.
I got a box of mellow snus, and put about five packs of it in a very small container, and added about 60% PGA, 40 % water. I pushed on the bags some and the mixture quickly went dark brown. I am letting it sit capped in a dark area for a few days and then I'll strain it down. I'm more looking to isolate the tobacco flavor than extract nicotine at this time, so I'm not heating it or anything like that, although I know some nic will come out as well anyway.
Since many have already worked with this, any thoughts as to about what amount or percentage of this should be added to a base mixture once it's been strained? I'm just looking for a basic baseline to try and then vary up or down from to get to the right flavor level.
Scubabatdan, the ashtray taste may be because you are not diluting enough. Apparently this is a problem with tobacco flavorings as well. See the thread, Best attempt at tobacco flavor so far, from which I quote:
"...As for the pre-dilute the tobacco absolute, I'd stick to the receipe. It's some pretty strong stuff and pre diluteing it allows you more control over it's streignth. If you get it too strong the taste turns to ashtray. You can also vary the streignth to your taste better from a pre diluted mix."
from post http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tempt-tobacco-flavor-so-far-8.html#post460814
I will try to keep this in mind with my current experiment and see if I can eliminate the ashtray taste while getting a good tobacco taste.
Ummmmmm the whole reason behind this is not for the flavor, but for the nicotine. Using the apple method eliminates the ASH taste and preserving the nicotine levels. The apple nic juice has a subtle taste of tobbaco and apple no matter the concentration used. Thanks for the link I have read through that thread and have it in my subscribed threads
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